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Benford
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Elliot Goldenthal's Final Fantasy was recently recorded with the London Symphony Orchestra.
On musicfromthemovies.com is stated that it was recorded with and enlarged brass section.16!!!Horns ,8Trombones!!! and 4 Trumpets(that`s normal) and a tuba.The orchestration sounds a bit like Hermanns rejected score for "Torn curtain" It's described as a mix of Alien 3 and Sphere.Can't wait to hear it!Which label will release the soundtrack and when?
posted 04-22-2001 09:15 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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Thats wierd because I read a quote Goldnethal made about the score and he said all the experiemental stuff (like in Alien 3) wouldn't enchance a computer animated film, and that his approarch would be more softer and warmer.
posted 04-22-2001 09:36 AM PT (US) 
Justin

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I hope what Tim said is true because personally I want a Final Fantasy experience and not just some other sci-fi score.
posted 04-22-2001 10:24 AM PT (US) 
Probable

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Absolutely. A standard SF score this should NOT be.
posted 04-22-2001 10:57 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I think Goldenthal didn't say the score is not experimental, he just didn't use (as much?) synthesizers. And a cross between Alien³ and Sphere! Can't wait!
posted 04-22-2001 11:10 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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.[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 04-22-2001]
posted 04-22-2001 11:31 AM PT (US) 
Hasta
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Crono, chill...First of all, though most of us don't care as much as you do for the film, we are still eagerly anticipating it. Now, I know you are the "know all" guy about Final Fantasy, but you know... You may just be wrong. I really think that this film is going to be like NOTHING the video game series ever tried to pull off... Think about it for a second, WHY IN THE WORLD would the producers even think about hiring Elliot Goldenthal if it wasn't weird and twisted in some way? The guy is usually only involved in very unique movies, so I think that the Alien 3 / Sphere description is probably very accurate for the score, meaning that the film is going to be equally strange. Anyway my 2 cents.
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posted 04-22-2001 12:23 PM PT (US) 
Racerprose

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The film version of Final Fantasy will be similar to FF7.Only the antagonist is a sort of organic futuristic creature.
Although, the film will still share its characteristics from the games.
I don't think anyone who has played the games and enjoyed them have anything to be worried about.
About the score, it is no secret that Elliot Goldenthal is a "different" type of composer. His style of writing music will fit the film fine and he would not have been chosen if Square did not think he could take over for Uematsu.
-Racerprose
posted 04-22-2001 12:58 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
There is a certian way to express the world of "Final Fantasy" through the music. I can assume that those that have played it know what I am talking about, and a cross between "Sphere" and "Alien 3" IS NOT IT.You just don't get it... Goldenthal is NOT Uematsu.
Jeron
posted 04-22-2001 01:51 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Here is my personal expectations. Sorry Brian but Final Fantasy The Movie will not be your typical game experience with their deep themes and such because most movie goers won't understand it. Therefore, it's going to be a sci-fi feature with a weird Goldenthal score. Not bad but not what most are expecting. I think I will like it but I won't be blown away :-) My opinions only though of course
posted 04-22-2001 02:06 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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.[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 04-22-2001]
posted 04-22-2001 02:26 PM PT (US) 
Racerprose

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I have also played the previous games.The film will be excellent. Visually and thematically.
This is Square who we are talking about....
-Racerprose
posted 04-22-2001 03:00 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
However, it’s like I said, most everyone here is waiting for Elliot’s score. But I ask how many of you played every single FF game? (Well, I know a few of you did) How many of you can say you have been waiting 10 years for this movie? I don’t many of you can, and until you can feel that way about something, you will never know how I feel about the film.Ultimately I don't think any of it matters. Whether you've been waiting 10 years or just a couple months, it's just a movie. Enjoy it for what it is. Set no expectations. Judge it as an entity in and of itself, and don't compare it to it's distant console cousins.
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As to the film, the producers made on mistake, as a "FF" purest, first off, the title "Final Fantasy" as in all "FF" games; they always were about a place and a time. Never any specific date or place, unless the world is named in the game (IE: Gaia in IX). For the movie, Square said it took place on Earth, in the year 2065, big no-no for the "FF" series. Then it gives the viewer a preconceived notion that the world they are seeing is Earth, where as if the world is un-named, they see it as a "fantasy" world.I think it's you who has the preconceived notion. Sure, this might be a common "trend" amongst the Final Fantasy series, though I've never seen it written in stone. Did you have a conference with the producers? Maybe they did it just to bug you... I certainly doesn't bother me. Earth 2065. Sounds fun.
Elliot Goldenthal's score will prove to be inutterably appropriate - it always is. Brian, you being the FF boy, might end up hating the thing. Thankfully we, as individuals, don't have to rely on your judgement of the score to decide if we like it or not - and/or think it's appropriate. I sincerely hope you like it... but if not, what can ya do?
Because this movie is kind of your "baby," I really want you to enjoy it, though if it does turn out to be a sour experience for you, please don't come back complaining. We did, after all, warn you. This film has created for you a potential disdain for Goldenthal that you normally would not have. We realize that you are concerned. We realize that if Goldenthal messes up the film in your eyes, you'll never go near the name Goldenthal again. That's fine. I respect that.
Just stop setting yourself up for disappointment... I will be surprised if the film has a set of strong themes. Pleasantly surprised.
Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 04-22-2001]
posted 04-22-2001 05:06 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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I agree with Jeron...this movie is a highly anticipated film but not one to base your whole life around. Some people have too high of hopes for this movie and it may affect them majorly when viewing it. I say sit back and enjoy something you can't imagine how it will be. We all have no clue as to how it is going to turnout so we are all going to have our opinions. Until then, we can only pray our expectations are met.
posted 04-22-2001 05:14 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Also, Brian, I still love ya bro - I do. But it's just my opinion. Just like you have yours.
posted 04-22-2001 05:18 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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.[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 04-22-2001]
posted 04-22-2001 05:23 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Lord it sure has
posted 04-22-2001 05:25 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Wow.
posted 04-22-2001 05:29 PM PT (US) 
Al

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Alien 3 and Sphere?Just the mention of Sphere makes me more than sure that this will be an appropriate score. I don't think I need to go on AGAIN about how much of a fit that score, however noisola-like it was, for that film (the Unknown Event cue especially).
Still looking forward to the film and score.
NP: Shore's "Dogma"[Message edited by Al on 04-23-2001]
posted 04-22-2001 10:56 PM PT (US) 
Probable

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mf.Unfortunately, I didn't see Bri's posts before he wiped them. Judging from the quotes, though, and as someone who shares his love of the FF series, I have to say, it seems to me that his concerns are not unfounded. Whie nothing is set in stone, there are certain themes and ideas that have remained constant throughout at least 9 of the myriad FF games (II thru IX and Tactics), and it seems that the movie may not reflect or include these. That is not to say that the movie may not be good in its own right, but I think it is unlikely that it will be entirely true to the franchise. This is very disappointing for long-time and die-hard fans of the franchise who were really looking forward to seeing a Final Fantasy story told in the film medium.
As for Goldenthal not being Uematsu, that's part of the problem, really. Uematsu has helped define the feel and mood of the FF games at every step of the way. Like it or not, Goldenthal is a very different composer, and while his music will no doubt be good and inspiring, it will not contribute to the 'FF' atmosphere. Instead, it is highly likely that it will detract from that atmosphere, which is another source of frustration for die-hard fans. Note: this is not a slight against Goldenthal's ability; the fact is, he is not and can not and will not emulate Nobuo Uematsu.
All of that said, The Spirits Within has great potential as a movie. However, as a Final Fantasy story, its prospects are not great. I don't know how else to put it.
posted 04-24-2001 04:47 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Well put, just an FYI: I do plan to bring "IX" to the screen someday, at least, that's my dream. (One of them)--Brian
posted 04-24-2001 05:28 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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You certainly have a point. I haven't played the FF games (except the first Game Boy installment
)), but I guess Goldenthal scoring the film is a bit like Goldenthal scoring Star Wars. But although of course I want Williams to score all the Star Wars films, I wouldn't mind having Goldenthal working on them IF Williams couldn't do it.That said, I still think that films based on video games (or any other type of game) are highly problematic. There's a great risk of trying to show all the features of the original, but then the result is nothing else than a commercial for the game. I watched parts of the Record of Lodoss War anime series, which are based on a Japanese role playing game, and while they were certainly interesting from a role playing gamer's point of view, I don't think much of them as a film.
posted 04-24-2001 08:01 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
