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Kross Oscar® Winner	...I loved Rope! I recently rented and saw this for the first time and consider it his best film. I truly respect Hitchock's technique, but I do not truly like any of his films except some of Rear Window. I despise Psycho, even though it was a pop culture filmmaking milestone, but Rope I love. His other films I respect, but do not enjoy. Rope I truly loved. It was so amazing to watch. It was just like a play, having only cuts when needed for a new film reel, and was done cleverly with the walking into the back of a character. There was no music within the film that I can remember, except during the credits before and after. So score is nothing. This film is his best in my opinion. It may not have all of his style as usual, but it still comes out as the best film I think.
posted 04-21-2001 11:47 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	man I think Psycho is STILL a great movie, even 40 years after the fact. perhaps I'm not jaded enough.
posted 04-21-2001 11:55 PM PT (US)

Kross Oscar® Winner	Not that the blood or hinted at violence is not enough compared to nowadays, but the story, and pace of Psycho, and overall feel of it is tiresome for me. Rope I loved.
posted 04-22-2001 01:12 AM PT (US)

Gae Oscar® Winner	Whoops! After this post I expect to see an onslaught of Hitch fans posting here! Maybe I'm wrong though! Kross,which Hitchcock films have you seen? I agree Rope is a brilliant film, all shot in 10 minute takes which was revolutionary at the time...1948! Personally, Psycho isn't my favourite Hitch movie, it still is and will always be North by Northwest, followed by Vertigo, Spellbound, Rear Window, Strangers on a Train, The 39 steps,The Lady Vanishes, The Birds, Marnie, Saboteur etc etc...I could go on but I wont! In my opinion Hitchcock is one of the greatest director of the cinema and his style and technique has inspired countless film makers for generations! As regards pacing of his films, I always place a movie in the era that it was shot and allow myself the understanding that editing was not as subliminal as it seems to be in a lot of films these days..either for the reasons to cover up holes in the script or because the attention span of todays audience is a millisecond! Personally, I love the pacing of older movies. It gives you time to take in the information, scrutinise it and come up with your own decisions and thoughts on the events on the screen. Also, it gives the viewer the chance to let his/her imagination think of various possibilities of the drama, where its going, what this means and that means etc...a vital element of Hitchcock's thrillers which gives the audience an element of participation. Anyway, theres my tuppence-worth of thoughts on the subject! Gae NPOnce Upon a Time in America (Morricone)
posted 04-22-2001 04:46 AM PT (US)

Kross Oscar® Winner	I have probably seen 95% of Hitchcock's films Gae. Of all Hitch's films, Rope is the only one I love, the others I just respect. I did love the pace in Rope, but in Psycho, it seemed more or less like a well done slasher film, and I hate slasher films. Only Psycho had a few killings instead of many. I resptec all of his films, but I can only honestly love Rope. North by Northwest is a tad too silly for me, Psycho is tiresome and too overhyped for its own good, I guess I probably loved Rope because no one has EVER talked about it, and it is one of his most daring films. The pace in older films are amazing. Kurosawa films come to my mind, they usually srart off with a slow information gathering pace, and end in an emotional and mental fury. Hitch does the same in some respects, only I find most "suspense" boring, because we all know what is gonna happen when that suspense ends. Rope was different though, I loved it for its difference.
posted 04-22-2001 11:46 AM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	Rope is indeed on of Hitchcock's finest in my opinion. Remember he wanted to shoot the movie in one continous take. I think he ended up with the film being shot in 12 seprate sections and then editing them together to make it seem like he shot it in one complete take. Can you imagine having to shoot a 15 to 20 min section in one take and then having to redo it from the start when someone messed up.
posted 04-22-2001 05:54 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Rope is indeed a marvel of creative filmmaking. Hitchcock always liked to try new and different things; he challenged himself over and over. Nothing like Rope has ever been done before or since, to my knowledge.
posted 04-22-2001 06:30 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I also consider Rope one of his best, though I have seen it only once. Chris: I don't know about other films that were (seemingly) shot in one single take, but I think there are a couple of other real-time films, at least the excellent Nick of Time.
posted 04-22-2001 06:47 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Marian, you sweetie you... How is Jerry the cat doing these days? I have never heard of Nick Of Time, so I am at a disadvantage here... Please inform me.
posted 04-22-2001 08:40 PM PT (US)

Kross Oscar® Winner	Nick of Time with Johhny Depp? It is nothing like Rope. High Noon is nothing like Rope. Both Nick of time and High Noon take place in "real time" but use normal cuts, edits, etc, as most films do making it not truly real time and in the long run, still feels like a normal film. Rope is all one giant shot, only changing when one has to change film reels, even then it is hard to tell when since it is as simple as goign into and out of a person's back.
posted 04-22-2001 09:09 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Marian, I thought that the constant (I mean CONSTANT) cutaways to clocks in Nick of Time was (LOOK! We're in REAL TIME!!!!) ruined this film (well, that and Roma Maffia's terrible, terrible, terrible dialogue). Jeez, look at all of those asides. Oh boy. Shaun
posted 04-23-2001 12:19 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	The first ten or fifteen minutes of BEWARE! THE BLOB! are done more or less in real time, but not in the same way ROPE is. I never said Larry Hagman was the director Hitchcock was
posted 04-23-2001 03:57 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I never said Nick of Time is similar to Rope, but both of them are real-time films. Shaun, I can't comment on the dialogue, because I've only seen the German dub, and German dub dialogues are ALWAYS (at least nearly always) horrible. quote: Originally posted by Chris Kinsinger: How is Jerry the cat doing these days? He's fine, but sometimes he bites. It's time for him to get "the chop" soon, so I hope he calms down a bit afterwards. quote: *I have never heard of Nick Of Time, so I am at a disadvantage here...* Please inform me. I can't say much that isn't better described at the IMDb, bit I really like the film. A thriller starring Johnny Depp and Christopher Walken, and taking place in realtime. The score is by Arthur B. Rubinstein and went out of print some time ago, but I was able to still get a copy at a local store (which I had seen sitting there for years, but never picked up before). NP: Krull (James Horner)
posted 04-23-2001 07:36 AM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Oscar® Winner	I'm not going to be kross with you for not liking Hitchcock, but if not Hitch, then who are you a fan of?
posted 04-27-2001 08:18 PM PT (US)

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posted 04-27-2001 08:29 PM PT (US)

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