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Topic: Rosenman Time! Prophecy - Check this out!

OHMSS76

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PROPHECY (42:48) by Leonard Rosenman/CDR BOOT $25.00
What do you think? Anyone have this yet? Its at www.screenarchives.com
Is it a good one?
Best,
Seanposted 04-19-2001 04:12 PM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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I have this. It's what you would expect of a Rosenman horror score - dark, dense, multilayered, percussive. It has some electronic touches I didn't remember from my viewing of this movie many years ago. I like the score, but then I'm a Rosenman fan. Sound quality is OK. The artwork that came with my version was just text, so I made myself a new cover that features that adorably hideous little beastie in its yucky embryonic sack, as featured on the original poster.
posted 04-19-2001 06:45 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Holy **** ! Rocco, where art thou??!?!?!?Shaun
posted 04-19-2001 07:17 PM PT (US) 
CF8

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Hey Stephen,any chance of trading PROPHECY??
posted 04-20-2001 01:00 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I only JUST got here, Shaun.Surprised this is coming out, but pleased. I may well want it. Typical Rosenman, but that's fine by me. Lots of juicy playing from the Blaster Beam as well, for each appearance by the marauding beastie.
I personally love this movie, and not as a camp artifact either -- it's EXTREMELY well made for what it is. Director John Frankenheimer tackles scenes of suspense, violence and action that run absolute rings around pretty much every director who cracked this genre immediately following JAWS. And he cuts around the skinned-bear critter so adroitly that you never QUITE see the zipper down its back.
posted 04-20-2001 08:40 AM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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CF8, I'm always happy to do the trade thang ... I'm going to be tied up for a couple of weeks (work-wise, I hasten to add - no kinky stuff!) but if you contact me off-board we can work something out. Gotta design a decent back cover for the thing too. Got the stills all lined up.
posted 04-20-2001 12:25 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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I rented this last night, and thanks to our pal CF8(and in a roundabout way Stephen L. I imagine) now have this awesome score, and my own made up cue titles, which I will post today in a bit.But I wanted to ask if you ever made this backcover w/stills Stephen? Can you let me know, or if you have cue titles already?
This score is awesome, Rosenmans usual wild,modernistic orchestral colors, and the film is actually very good, suspenseful,involving, and bloody when necessary. Also well spotted, with score covering 42 mins. out of 109. Too bad the only video I know of is this awful,amaturishly panned and scanned version. This baby cries out for 2.35:1 Anamorphic DVD!
Viva Frankenheimer!
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Sean
posted 06-26-2001 09:30 AM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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Sean,Great news. I look forward to your track titles. And yes, I did make a back cover, an eerie landscape with the film's credits superimposed - the idea was, whenever someone came up with the track titles
I could replace the credits with them. Did I ever send you a good quality PNG of the front booklet I did? I can't remember. I'll send you the front and back by e-mail anyway. And I can modify it when you've finished your work on the titles.posted 06-26-2001 10:50 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Hope these are acceptable for everyone

I just watched the film last night for the first time, and did the best I could. Lots of those scenes are just people going from one place to another, pretty hard to title. The whole score is here, beginning at the moment the last title fades from the screen. It's all in order too, although the final cue starts different than the disc does. There is a 'heroic' piece for the finale, after the finale attack, which is not on the album. This may have been a tracked cue from earlier, but I didn't go back and check....
1. The Hunt 1:27
2. The Body :32
3. Journey To The Forest 1:47
4. The Arrival 2:04
5. Fight/Chainsaw Vs. Ax 2:50
6. Lake Interlude :53
7. Cello Source :49
8. Duck Death :12 9. Frenzied Racoon 1:00
10. Indian Camp :31
11. The Garden Of Eden 3:16
12. Mercury :28
13. Campfire Killing :55
14. Campfire Postlude 2:26
15. Poached Mutant Bears 1:02
16. River Crossing :31
17. Camp At Night/Maggie’s Secret 2:05
18. The Big Assault 3:07
19. Camp On Fire :45
20. Trek From The Camp 2:02
21. Isely’s Death 1:05
22. Road At Night/River Of Death 6:26
23. Mutant Across The Water 1:00
24. Bear-icade! 1:05
25. Roof Collapse :12
26. One Final Attack 1:54
27. End Titles 2:22~Sean
posted 06-26-2001 11:41 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Ps....Stephen, can you add these to your back cover art, and email it to me?
That would be great! And, while we're talking Rosenman, can you recommend any other offbeat scores that would be worth hearing by him? I love his work,and want to find more nice discoveries like this one!Thanks!
Seanposted 06-26-2001 11:42 AM PT (US) 
HAL 2000
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I vaguely remember the score but it is more tyrpical of the Star Trek IV Rosenman than the Fantastic Voyage Rosenman.I agree with Rocco sbout the movie. It deserves more than just simple "guilty pleasure' status. It is a deft treatment of a pretty standard monster premise. It came out shortly after Alien, the gold standard for modern monster pics., and was probably judged all the more harshly.
One scene that did fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you view, come out rather funny is the scene where the bear monster swipes a kid who's frantically bouncing away in a sleeping bag and sends him flying into a big rock resulting in a poof and a swirling cloud of down feathers. HAHAHAHAHAH!
I couldn't help myself.posted 06-26-2001 12:20 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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oh my! HAL, that scene had my fiance and I ROLLING on the floor for over five minutes! I had to rewind it several times to get the full comedic effect
I think this score is a bit closer to the odd colors of Voyage, than the more traditional ST IV. Either way, they are both more adventurous than most things being created today, and I would love to hear some of Rosenman's concert works, along with more film scores. I didn't really notice the blaster beam until the final cues really, but it's there

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Sean
posted 06-26-2001 12:39 PM PT (US) 
Al

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I just wanted to boot this thread up since apparently after my searching on the FSM and MM forums there hasn't been a mention of this film or score since 2001.The film itself was somewhat silly, but I was into it because of the talent behind the scenes. David Seltzer pounded out a fairly solid script, and while it pales in comparison to his work for The Omen, it's certainly not a hack job. The guy did his homework on a lot of details others would have glossed over.
And kudos to Frankenheimer especially. As if the challenge of dealing with a fake-looking mutant bear wasn't enough, he even manages to conjure up some honest suspense in places you wouldn't expect. The scene in the tunnel where the characters are holed up listening to the monster killing one of their own off screen was maverick filmmaking--the reactions Frankenheimer got out of his actors absolutely sold the scene. But the way the film ended was still pretty shoddy.
Anyway, I'm not sure a release of Rosenman's score is necessary, but it would be nice. It's well-crafted, and as OHMSS stated: well-spotted. The only thing off about it was that some of the nature music was a little too Natural Geographic and didn't mesh as well with the tone of the film, as well as the rest of the score, which is pretty barbaric and all the better for it. I was surprised to hear the Blaster Beam, but the whole thing was so wild that it seemed right at home.
I hope this gets released someday. Not claiming it as a holy grail, but it'd make for a cool release, and one that I'd certainly pick up.
posted 06-25-2006 10:18 PM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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One of my favorite scenes in the film is when the Father and his two kids are hiking and the dad tells the daughter to turn off the radio. He thinks he hears something but it gets quiet. Then as they walk away the camera zooms in on thick group of trees and all you can hear is the creature breathing.Chilling.
and yes the ending is very lame.[Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 06-26-2006]
posted 06-26-2006 12:21 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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The score to this is interesting like many of his. The film is downright putrid and in some scenes very funny. The monster is one of the most ridiculous looking things ever and when he grabs the old Indian and throws him around like a rag doll, you cant help but laugh. Really dumb. J.
posted 06-29-2006 09:50 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
