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Topic: Honey and Grinch
SEBULBA
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I was listening to the Honey, I Shrunk The Kids promo on my way to work this morning. Track 12 began playing and for a second I forgot what I was listening to and began singing (in my head) "Where Are You Christmas", from the Grinch. The melody on track 12 (& on other tracks), is soooo much like Grinch. Except that Honey was done about 12 years ago. Anyway, another rip off of his own music. But I'm not complaining, I still like both. Just an observation.
posted 04-06-2001 07:54 AM PT (US) Jeron
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Wow, what a surprising observation!! (FEEL the sarcasm... feel it!)
posted 04-06-2001 10:26 AM PT (US) Camillu
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Are you trying to insinuate that a part of the Horner score from 1 film sounds simialr to the Horner score of ANOTHER film?
posted 04-06-2001 03:01 PM PT (US) Dr.Evil
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Zzzzzzzzz...
posted 04-06-2001 03:24 PM PT (US) H Rocco
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Although I haven't seen or heard THE GRINCH, I have no doubt it's another scintillating Horner composition bursting with originality and verve, among the finest film scores ever written (as I already know ENEMY OF THE GATES to be as well, although I haven't seen or heard that either) -- and bearing NO resemblance at all to anything else he's ever done or ever will do. Indeed, what I like best about Horner is that none of his scores EVER sound alike. He actually manages to give us something new and COMPLETELY different, every time! It's so amazing that you can play GLORY, APOLLO 13, BRAVEHEART, LEGENDS OF THE FALL and TITANIC (just to name an illustrious five!) and it's like they were all composed by different people! You don't see John "STEP-mom!" Williams doing that. He can't even make his STAR WARS scores sound different every time, and as you know he INVENTED film music! Well, actually, he invented TELEVISION music, with LOST IN SPACE, but then movies ripped off the idea of putting music in them, like movies always rip off everything from TV (e.g. that entire bizarre notion of putting a giant TV screen inside a big room and making you sit in the dark with strangers instead of sitting peacefully at home, joyfully utterly alone, where you cannot be bothered or mocked by your intellectual inferiors or young girls who will laugh at what they perceive to be your freakish appearance because they clearly believe they are "hot stuff" -- trollops, all of them, ALL of them! -- I NEVER understood this, and movies don't even have commercials in the middle!). I guess I don't blame Williams for repeating all his LOST IN SPACE ideas in STAR WARS, since the movie was stolen from LOST IN SPACE to begin with. I thought the 1998 movie of LOST IN SPACE was a LOT more honest in its intentions, since they wisely called it LOST IN SPACE, even though all these movies are about the same idea (being in space).I do admit maybe there is something to be said for repeating the main title theme in STAR WARS movies, because the movies are called STAR WARS (instead of LOST IN SPACE, which I still cannot fathom), and also because that way the audience can tell it is STAR WARS (unless they knew what it was before going in, like from TV or something).
As for that pretentious hack Jerry Goldsmith? Man, just play the festering noise of PLANET OF THE APES, the irreducibly sappy, foully sentimental PATTON (did Goldsmith even WATCH that picture before scoring it?), the simpering humor of THE OMEN (Oscar- HAH!), and the unholy reeking operetta that is STAR TREK - THE MOTION PICTURE back to back, and it's incredible he was even allowed to work after the 1970s. It's the same damn score -- every time! I guess that's what the producers wanted, though, but a pox on them anyway.
NP: Vangelis, "Reprise" (Vangelis' genius is of an opposite order: in EVERY score, he finds a way to use keyboard! I have NO idea how he does it, but there's a keyboard in EVERY piece of music he composes! I never heard Beethoven doing that. Of course, by the end, neither could he. That is why he is my hero. signed, Bartholomew Conger IV, still looking for some greedy quack to render me surgically deaf.
posted 04-06-2001 05:56 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
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Thank you, Roc...for the best laugh I've had all week!
By the way, you mentioned that you TOUCHED GODZILLA (on another board)...but you didn't see my response.
I'm impressed!
posted 04-06-2001 09:27 PM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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OOOHHH, where did he touch him.......?[Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 04-06-2001]
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