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Topic: Mourning A Burner (Tech Fags Read)

Shaun Rutherford

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Friends, Romans, Film Score Ass/Retards,
This day had to come. My CD burner (Hewlett Packard CD-Writer Plus 7200) is no longer with us (I added in the name of the drive just to provoke a laugh from people who are more technologically advanced). Woe is my 2x burner.
I discovered my burner to be deceased when I noticed that at around track 15 on FIVE STRAIGHT CDs (the brand is Hypermedia, which we carry at the store and could even be one of the conspirators in the demise of my illegal CD producer, and they're as cheap as they are chintzy......I wish I could find some Maxell 80min. discs), the burner would begin to "chirp" and the program (Adaptec 4.03) would stop the progression of the track. The first four discs were being made as I did things upstairs, so I walked downstairs to discover the error message (which was one of those "Invalid Parameter" errors that suggest that I either restart my computer, reinstall the program, use different CDRs, or stick my head in the oven).I made a friend of mine 2 CDs the other day, and everything was fine. Same cheap discs, same burner, seemingly no problems. But now........(backhand on forehead)
So, if you're reading this, and can offer any insight to my problem (and JUST THIS problem; no analysis of my other, more well-publicized problems will be accepted), please respond. What should I do next? Get a new burner? Which kind won't give me those damned glitches? I don't have a mind of my own and I must be told what types of technology to embrace! So, please help! You have all my information up there.
Email me at:
assretard@hotmail.comThanks,
Shaun
Woeful Technology Snobposted 04-01-2001 02:18 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Just burned a CD with Adaptec 3.5c. Worked fine. 4.3 still won't work, though. What could be wrong?Shaun
posted 04-01-2001 03:38 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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First, try a different brand of CDR. One year ago, I bought a new burner because I thought my old one was defect, only to discover the new one had the same problems. When I found out that my stock of 30 CDRs was faulty, I discovered that the old burner still worked. A friend of mine is still using that burner today, I'm glad I bought a new one nevertheless because the new one is 8x.
If you need a new burner, I can recommend Teac - cheap, fast, and capable of doing 1:1 copies of audio CDs.
posted 04-01-2001 03:39 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Oops, too late.
Did the same version of the program that now makes problems work before?
posted 04-01-2001 03:40 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Well, I take partial blame. It was me afterall that convinced you to switch to 4.3. Sorry bro!! Perhaps 4.x has issues with your burner. Works fine for me. I'm about to upgrade to 5.x (which just came out), so I'll let you know how that goes.quote:
Same cheap discs, same burner, seemingly no problems....you're so cheap, ya know that?!
LOL.Jeron
posted 04-01-2001 03:42 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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I use DART CD Recorder to make my CDRs.and Adaptec 3.5 to make my covers and sometime to rip tracks (it's faster).
I read this thread.
does that mean I'm a tech fag?posted 04-01-2001 03:50 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by JJH:
does that mean I'm a tech fag?YES. Yes it does...
posted 04-01-2001 04:38 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Thanks for your help so far, tech fags.Jeron: I do blame you. Read what I'm writing to JJ here and tell me if this has happened to you.
JJH: I do EXACTLY the same thing, man! I use 4.3 to record (as it does the 80 minute discs and 3.5 doesn't), but 3.5 to do the ripping and the artwork (as 4.3's artwork program totally blows ass, and when you make a .wav file in 4.3, it cuts off the last 2 seconds of every cue upon burning to CD; I'm thinking that with all the advances in technology, Adaptec could fix dumbass problems like that). Smart man, JJ.
Marian: I actually was thinking of getting a TEAC. That or this brand that I can't remember the name.........Plextor, that's it. Sounds like a comic book villain.
Anyway, this could be a good topic for everyone to hang their head and cry about how crappy his/her CD burner is/was.
Shaun
NP---The Sixth Day DVD. It's playing upstairs, and my family is accepting it. I watched the first half hour and eventually my constant cries of "It's Total Recall, don't you GET it?!?" grew tiresome, so I decided to check out this page.
posted 04-01-2001 06:56 PM PT (US) 
DaveK

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There is an upper limit to the number of CD-Rs you can burn, much like brake pads. Eventually, (programs) crash and (you can't) burn.Okay. Bad humor.
From what I've seen, an update to your burn program will often create problems than smooth old ones out. Adaptec is notorious for this.
[Message edited by DaveK on 04-01-2001]
posted 04-01-2001 07:07 PM PT (US) 
Kris Koon

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What is the exact version of Easy CD Creator you're using. The latest 4.x version, according to the Roxio (Adaptec's software company) web site, appears to be 4.03b. You can check the version under Help->About Easy CD Creator. Updates are available here. Also, Adaptec recommends not running multiple versions on the same system. This page might also be helpful.
posted 04-01-2001 10:31 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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I have Adaptec 3.5c.they say it sucks, but it works for me.
AND it burns 78 minute CDRs just fine.
but every now and then it still messes up, so I use the DART exclusively for burning.
NP -- radioposted 04-01-2001 10:55 PM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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I ocassionally have this problem and reinstalling Windows always fixes it. Drastic, I know, but it does work and only takes a couple of hours. The problem is probably a corrupt DLL or VXD file. Reinstalling the App may help, but probably not.Email me if you would like my patented re-install techniques that perserves all your contacts, favorites, data and saved games while still allowing a complete and clean reinstall.
posted 04-01-2001 11:25 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Anyway, this could be a good topic for everyone to hang their head and cry about how crappy his/her CD burner is/was.Well, we had a HP burner at the office a couple of years ago, that started to get errors soon after I got there. After a couple of months, it failed completely (and during the weeks before that, we could only burn at 1x speed).
We also have a HP photo scanner at the office that never really worked. And we have a HP flatbed scanner that only occasionally works, too.
I wouldn't buy anything except a printer from HP, I think. What? Your current burner is a HP?

They're said to be very good, though, so maybe that's right. I'm afraid I don't really believe it, though.
As for audio burning applications, I always recommend Feurio. It will burn only audio CDs, but it's perfect for that.
posted 04-02-2001 05:50 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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quote:
Originally posted by MWRuger:
I ocassionally have this problem and reinstalling Windows always fixes it. Drastic, I know, but it does work and only takes a couple of hours. The problem is probably a corrupt DLL or VXD file. Reinstalling the App may help, but probably not.Email me if you would like my patented re-install techniques that perserves all your contacts, favorites, data and saved games while still allowing a complete and clean reinstall.
MWRuger - I'm having similar probs with my CD writer, and at the same time Windows is giving me VXD fatal error all the time...do you think the probs are related? How can I solve the VxD problem?
About re-installing, would I need the CD, coz that's at my dad's office - but I somehow recall installing stuff from software files on the Hard disk.
Thanks in advance.
posted 04-02-2001 06:52 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Someone mentioned that the brand of CD-Rs could be the problem.I'm having loads of writing problems, and I use Memorex which I think are good. Am I wrong? Should I try another brand?
(Hope not, coz I get them dirt cheap
)Thanks in advance guys.
posted 04-02-2001 06:54 AM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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Camillu,Email me with the actual error message and when the error occurs and that will tell me a lot. Also, what exactly happens? Does it lock requiring a reboot or does some particular application stop running?
It could be a VXD associated with a video driver (the most problematic part of the windows driver model). If it occurs only during startup, It could also be a reference in the registry to program that did not or was not uninstalled correctly. If that is the case, the VXD error can generally be cured by reinstalling the app and then uninstalling it properly. If it occurs after running a particular program or using a particular device, then uninstalling and reinstalling the program or device may help. If it occurs randomly, then it is trickier.
Yes, you will need the CD and probably the Microsoft certificate number as well. Without knowing your PC manufacturer, it’s quite likely that only the cab files were included on your hard drive and the command line exe for setup may or may not be present on the drive. Plus, you will need the certificate to do the reinstall.
As far as HP goes, I generally have never had problems with their hardware, although most of my experiences are with printers from them. I know that did have a few problems with some early generations of CD-R and CD-RWs. But those were corrected in later models. I never did tech support for their PC’s but they are not rated for reliability as high as Dell or Gateway.
posted 04-02-2001 09:11 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
