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scoreguy15 unregistered	What do you all think is Zimmer's Best and Worst Scores. BEST: The Lion King The Thin Red Line and on the more synth best scores: The Fan WORST: Days Of Thunder And not so great with great aplaus: Gladiator, what is up with this score, it wasn't even near some of his best! Clay G. NP The 6th Day Complete
posted 03-27-2001 06:50 PM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	[QUOTE]Originally posted by scoreguy15: [B]What do you all think is Zimmer's Best and Worst Scores. Best = The Thin Red Line Rochelle
posted 03-27-2001 07:09 PM PT (US)

sean Oscar® Winner	my preferences : 01. The Thin Red Line 02. Gladiator 03. The Peacemaker 04. Black Rain 05. Mission : Impossible II 06. Hannibal 07. The Prince of Egypt 08. Crimson Tide 09. Broken Arrow 10. Regarding Henry my not so preffered, yet appreciated : 01. K2 02. Pacific Heights 03. Drop Zone 04. Driving Miss Daisy 05. The Power of One 06. The Preacher's Wife 07. A World Apart 08. The Road to El Dorado 09. Something to Talk About 10. Rain Man Simply, I love Hans Zimmer's music and I find it impressive how diverse he is; even though some of us at this board may not agree, and that's fine because everyone holds their own opinions. I like how he can critisize his own work, too. Unlike say someone like James Horner, who is blindsided to his own re-scoring of his own works; yet, I love his music, too - but he's getting on my nerves with this Enemy at The Gates stuff...
posted 03-27-2001 07:37 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	By far the three best Zimmer+ scores are the following: The Thin Red Line The Power of One Beyond Rangoon there are none better in his canon. NP -- Before and After, Shore
posted 03-27-2001 07:45 PM PT (US)

Daniel J Oscar® Winner	Way to go Sean. You had to bring Horner into it.
posted 03-27-2001 08:31 PM PT (US)

Richard Oscar® Winner	Best: Thin Red Line, Hannibal, (maybe)Broken Arrow. I think Zimmer has a real talent for composing for traditional instruments, so I'm glad to see he's moving away from the synths as of late. Worst: The Assassin/Point of No Return There are part of this score I do like, but frankly, the electric guitars make it a bit of a downer. NP: Shostakovich Piano Trio No. 2 in Eminor, Op. 67 (or it would be except my freaking CD rom isn't reading the CD!)
posted 03-28-2001 02:53 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	Zimmer's best? - DRIVEN MISS DAISY - THE THIN RED LINE Zimmer's worst? - THE REST
posted 03-28-2001 08:55 AM PT (US)

masterconjurer unregistered	Best Zimmer Score: ? Worst Zimmer Score: MI:2 Master Conjurer
posted 03-29-2001 12:34 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	My God, Andre actually found TWO Zimmer scores to say something nice about. Or at least implicitly. I think his best and most ambitious score is still THE POWER OF ONE, a remarkable, even a breakthrough achievement. BLACK RAIN and BACKDRAFT still work for me. RAIN MAN and DRIVING MISS DAISY were good. Much of everything since then is kind of interchangeable. Oh yes, I like BROKEN ARROW a lot. REGARDING HENRY has a nice, loose feel to it, as does much of I'LL DO ANYTHING. As for THE THIN RED LINE, I've said it before: works for the film, left me cold as an album. Same thing with CRIMSON TIDE (did like the fanfare) and THE PEACEMAKER. One of his earliest scores, PAPERHOUSE (some of which was scored by Stanley Myers, but it wasn't a collaboration a la Media Ventures) has some fascinating music in it. NP: Works Of Akira Ifukube (CD version of 1977 Toho Records theme collection)
posted 03-29-2001 12:51 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	I dunno the only Zimmer scores I have and care to have are The Lion King and Crimson Tide. NP: Symphonic Ode - Buddha: Akira Ifukube AWESOME!!! [Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 03-29-2001]
posted 03-29-2001 03:18 PM PT (US)

Kross Oscar® Winner	TRL is one of the greatest scores of all time.
posted 03-29-2001 03:29 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Kross: TRL is one of the greatest scores of all time. ...in the Zimmer microcosm...
posted 03-29-2001 03:59 PM PT (US)

Lancelot Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Kross: [b]TRL is one of the greatest scores of all time.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> ...in the Zimmer microcosm...[/B] ...of Jeron's own microcosm....
posted 03-29-2001 04:05 PM PT (US)

Dr.Evil Oscar® Winner	No one will say nothing about House of Spirits? Crimson Tide is another great Zimmer score. The worst? Peacemaker is the one!
posted 03-29-2001 04:41 PM PT (US)

sean Oscar® Winner	OK, Dr. Evil....you like Crimson Tide but don't like The Peacemaker. Very strange, since I always thought the two worked good mixed together; and, Zimmer thinks of The Peacemaker as a sequal score to Crimson Tide since he could do everything with Peacemaker that he could not do in Crimson Tide.
posted 03-29-2001 05:33 PM PT (US)

Dr.Evil Oscar® Winner	Yes...this "everything" you mentioned is what made Peacemaker terrible! Over, definitely over!
posted 03-29-2001 06:29 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Oh Lancelot, come on... have a little fun. Notice the " " icon.
posted 03-29-2001 06:49 PM PT (US)

mlw Oscar® Winner	best? um, they're all crap. It's like comparing which has the best logo music, Sony or AT&T.
posted 03-29-2001 07:00 PM PT (US)

scoreguy15 unregistered	quote: Originally posted by mlw: best? um, they're all crap. It's like comparing which has the best logo music, Sony or AT&T. That ain't nice! And it's SONY! Clay G. NP-Best of MV ***/***
posted 03-29-2001 07:19 PM PT (US)

sabbey Oscar® Winner	Call me weird, but I like all of Zimmer's work. While, it might not be his best, my favorite happens to be Broken Arrow, since it is the first score of his I had heard, and was what made me become the fan I am! Other great scores from Zimmer are... Thin Red line Gladiator Backdraft The Prince of Egypt Crimson Tide Hannibal Not to mention The Rock as well, though don't consider it an "Zimmer" score. Also, while I like them. The scores I have that have not really impressed me yet, are... M:I2 Drop Zone Regards, Sean Robert Abbey
posted 03-29-2001 08:01 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	quote: Call me weird okay, you're weird. NP -- Raise the Titanic, John Barry
posted 03-29-2001 08:56 PM PT (US)

Kross Oscar® Winner	The Thin Red Line is the score that proved Zim as a true talent in my eyes. TRL is a great score, if you do not own it even if you hate him, shame on you! I am not a Zim fan either, I HATE SYNTH! But TRL is amazing. It is so emotional and I do not think any other composer could have pulled that score off to such an effective degree.
posted 03-29-2001 11:48 PM PT (US)

lars b Oscar® Winner	BEST : Beyond Rangoon Regarding Henry Thin Red Line WORST : M:I-2 The Peacemaker Drop Zone NP. Evan Evans Sampler
posted 03-29-2001 11:51 PM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by lars b: BEST : Beyond Rangoon Regarding Henry Thin Red Line What's Regarding Henry like? quote: WORST : M:I-2 The Peacemaker Drop Zone NP. Evan Evans Sampler I haven't heard Drop Zone, but I quite like the other two, especially the guitar bits from the former and 'Sarajevo' from the latter.
posted 03-30-2001 03:34 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Kross: The Thin Red Line is the score that proved Zim as a true talent in my eyes. TRL is a great score, if you do not own it even if you hate him, shame on you! I am not a Zim fan either, I HATE SYNTH! But TRL is amazing. It is so emotional and I do not think any other composer could have pulled that score off to such an effective degree. Hilarious Kros! Althought I think TRL is Zimmer less annoying score, it's nothing but mediocre - which is a true achviemente for the Noisemaker. The nicest parts of the scores where all based on Malasian popular songs and the rest is Zimmer trying to redo "The Shooting of Wilson" from Williams' BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY. Imagine what a real good and talented composer would have composed for that quite interesting movie. I will never understand why an "underground" director as Malick choose the king of the pre-fabricated music to score his last existential-philosophic war movie. Oh, well... things that a good agent can do these day...
posted 03-30-2001 07:27 AM PT (US)

ManOfSorrows Oscar® Winner	Regarding Henry is very good indeed. Hans is playing with six other people, a very calm score. Only for a few seconds in track 9 or something you can hear stuff that later would turn up in Crimson Tide, or any other of his action scores Hans is playing the piano/synth or whatever it is Nice melodies, good one to listen to if you need to calm down a bit, hehe (I got this one for $4, isn't that quite cheap for this score? I've read it's on the rare side). [Message edited by ManOfSorrows on 03-30-2001] [Message edited by ManOfSorrows on 03-30-2001]
posted 03-30-2001 09:07 AM PT (US)

ManOfSorrows Oscar® Winner	Humm...a question, has anyone ever heard "I'll do anything" ? It's a score Zimmer has done Never heard of it before, until today. Is it good? NP The Rock
posted 03-30-2001 09:48 AM PT (US)

SEBULBA Oscar® Winner	Noone has even mentioned The Rock. Has everyon forgotten about this score. I really like this one. One of my faves anyway.
posted 03-30-2001 10:01 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by SEBULBA: Noone has even mentioned The Rock. Has everyon forgotten about this score. Alas, I'd be GLAD if I could forget about this score! NP: Favorite Love Themes of FSM Messageboard Fans (by LogieD)
posted 03-30-2001 01:25 PM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	Impossible Marian. IMPOSSIBLE!!
posted 03-30-2001 01:36 PM PT (US)

BMUSTANG Oscar® Winner	Definitely Backdraft and Crimson Tide for best. I still get goosebumps lisening to these, especially the cool drum parts. As for worst, I really have not heard any that many of you think are worst. A lot of you say that Thin Red Line is good. I guess maybe I should get that soon, as is is on my list.
posted 03-30-2001 04:23 PM PT (US)

scoreguy15 unregistered	quote: Originally posted by sabbey: Call me weird, but I like all of Zimmer's work. While, it might not be his best, my favorite happens to be Broken Arrow, since it is the first score of his I had heard, and was what made me become the fan I am! Other great scores from Zimmer are... Thin Red line Gladiator Backdraft The Prince of Egypt Crimson Tide Hannibal Not to mention The Rock as well, though don't consider it an "Zimmer" score. Also, while I like them. The scores I have that have not really impressed me yet, are... M:I2 Drop Zone Regards, Sean Robert Abbey Same with me, only Broken Arrow was the very first score I had ever gotten and if it weren't for that, I wouldn't be into film scores like I am today. Clay G.
posted 03-30-2001 05:30 PM PT (US)

sabbey Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by JJH: okay, you're weird. NP -- [b]Raise the Titanic, John Barry[/B] Well, aren't we all?! We are fans of film music after all! That's what everyone tells me anyway! NP: Hoffa - David Newman Hmm, real good! Can't wait to hear more of his work. Regards, Sean Robert Abbey
posted 03-31-2001 04:08 AM PT (US)

sabbey Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by SEBULBA: Noone has even mentioned The Rock. Has everyon forgotten about this score. I really like this one. One of my faves anyway. Actually, I did! Though, it really isn't an Zimmer score! Since, from what I have heard, he only wrote an theme or two. NP: Hoffa - David Newman Regards, Sean Robert Abbey
posted 03-31-2001 04:14 AM PT (US)

sabbey Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy15: Same with me, only Broken Arrow was the very first score I had ever gotten and if it weren't for that, I wouldn't be into film scores like I am today. Clay G. That's cool! I really like BA, though it seems most I have talked with, don't! Otherwise, most if not all of his music is rather good. Too bad some have such an distaste with anything synth! As for the score that made me get into film music. Well, as quite a lot of others have said, that would be the Star Wars Trilogy. However, in my case, I found it was really more of an never-ending development from about 1990 till now. With Anime soundtracks being an huge part in my being here as well! Anyway, I love it all! film music, anime music and video game music. If it is soundtrack related, most likely I'll enjoy it! Well, not including those "inspired by" and most songtrack albums that is! Regards, Sean Robert Abbey
posted 03-31-2001 04:26 AM PT (US)

scoreguy15 unregistered	Well I often enjoy songtracks too. I like the more techno and heavy metal like music. Not really the rap side, but I sometimes like that too. Clay G. NP-The Patriot (**1/2/***) [Message edited by scoreguy15 on 04-01-2001]
posted 04-01-2001 05:41 PM PT (US)

Richard Street Oscar® Winner	My favourites: THE PEACEMAKER BEYOND RANGOON RADIO FLYER MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 2 Yes, I do like MI-2. Okay, so the new version of Schifrin's theme is ghastly beyond belief, and the Zap-Mama Iko-Iko song is pretty horrible (though easily programmed out), and there's perhaps a little too much pointless electric guitar noise, but the last cue, "Nyah and Ethan" is marvellous. The one Zimmer I can't get on with at all is CRIMSON TIDE, which seems to be to be way too long on CD without enough interesting music to justify the length. NP: THE SEA HAWK (Korngold)
posted 04-07-2001 04:12 PM PT (US)

Aaron Hose Oscar® Winner	Best = The Thin Red Line, Beyond Rangoon, Crimson Tide. Worst = Days of Thunder, The Pledge.
posted 04-09-2001 11:07 AM PT (US)

scoreguy15 unregistered	I agree with almost all of you! Just not the ones who don't like more then 2 of his scores. Clay G.
posted 04-09-2001 12:03 PM PT (US)

shrubber Oscar® Winner	Let me state first of all that I'm not a major fan of Zimmer and Media Ventures; they (Zimmer/Gregson-Williams/Powell/Glennie-Smirt et al) all seem to be doing the same routine, so I tend to regard them as one collective rather than separate composers. Although there are several things to admire in such scores as Thin Red Line, Chicken Run, The Rock and Rain Man, it all too often descends into bombast. Worst offender: Gladiator, which blatantly copies whole swathes of Wagner (Götterdämmerung, if you must know) and then throws in a wailing soprano and an overkill of ethnic noises in an attempt to be 'fusion'.
posted 04-09-2001 01:06 PM PT (US)

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