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      Let's play a game. I post the clips, you try to guess.

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    Topic:   Let's play a game. I post the clips, you try to guess.

     wistiti
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    I think some have seen this thing before. Someone posts a clip, then others guess what it is.
    Sorry, no prizes to be won.

    Notes:
    1) Files are in Streaming Audio (RealPlayer required).
    2) They are not downloadable.
    3) They will be removed one week from now.
    4) Album title, track title, composer name, performers, label and purchasing option (if available) will be provided as soon as each excerpt has been positively identified.

    If you don't know what the excerpts are, then please, say so. And I'll find some clues which might indicate the possible answer.

    If you know the excerpts, then feel free to give clues to others.

    The clips:
    http://www.iespana.es/wistiti/edgartownson.rm
    http://www.iespana.es/wistiti/ipulledahorner.rm
    http://www.iespana.es/wistiti/lukeandleia.rm
    http://www.iespana.es/wistiti/butman.rm

    Normally, the clips should work. If they don't, forget I ever posted this topic.

    Thanks for your participation.


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    posted 03-23-2001 08:23 PM PT (US)     

     Drixorial
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    I didn't download any of the clips but I thought I should point out that the track names are in the links. The 3rd one down is 'Luke and Leia'


    NP: Tommorow Never Dies -David Arnold

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    posted 03-23-2001 08:27 PM PT (US)     

     wistiti
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    Sorry. My mistake, and my bad humour.

    The link names have nothing to do with the track titles, nor the music.

    They represent some of the thoughts running through my mind when I sometimes listen to the excerpts.

    I didn't want to call them "excerpt1.rm", "excerpt2.rm" and so on.

    So I gave them misleading titles.

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    posted 03-23-2001 08:41 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    wistiti, I want to thank you for the last half-hour of tremendous listening pleasure that you have provided for me!

    Those four sound clips are all GLORIOUS!
    I loved every one of them!

    However, my guessing ability is minimal...

    CLIP 1: Definitely John Williams. I dunno. My guess would be the boat chase from The Last Crusade. Probably wrong. But I KNOW it's Williams!

    CLIP 2: Sir William Walton? I have no idea what film...

    CLIP 3: WILLIAMS again! Is this clip from Raiders???
    I really don't know...

    CLIP 4: Brad Fiedel TERMINATOR 2!

    How'd I do?

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    posted 03-23-2001 10:08 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    I can't specifically identify any of them. All four are good, with good sound and orchestras. Some of it sounds very familiar like Williams, Herrmann and Horner in places. The last one sounded very familiar. Parts of them sounded very Russian. I don't have these pieces in my collection as far as I know and I have 1000's of them(themes and cues). Are any of these from recent films? JW.

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    posted 03-23-2001 10:22 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    Chris, when I got through posting this I saw yours on there. I think Williams is a good guess by us both. I don't think its the two films you listed on him though. Doesn't sound like those to me. I hear Horner's drums in one cue. And, the last one is pretty good orchestrally. Most of that composer's stuff is pretty weak orchestrally overall. Best, John.

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    posted 03-23-2001 10:36 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Great idea, wisiti. I've been thinking for months of doing something like this myself, although I wanted to use small "surprising" excerpts from well-known cues.

    1. Never heard it. Sounds indeed like John Williams, but I have no idea what it could be. So my guess is: Could it be some of McNeely's Young Indy music? It's said to have a distinct Williams sound, but I've never heard it. And somehow, it doesn't completely sound like "true" Williams to me.

    Chris: It's definitely not the boat chase from Last Crusade - that one's on the official album. And I can't remember having heard it on the boot, either.

    2. No idea. Sounds great!

    3. No idea, either.

    4. Definitely Fiedel's Terminator theme, but I'm not really familiar with the scores, so I can't get more specific.

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    posted 03-24-2001 05:41 AM PT (US)     

     John Dunham
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    1. I think Marian is right on the money with this one. I don't have young indy, but this clip bares striking similarity to McNeely's williams inspired "Shadows of the Empire" and "Iron Will."

    2. Sounds familliar, style-wise. Not really Williams, though. I like, but I don't know.

    3. No idea.

    4. Tonight's scrambled movie title: 2T

    Wistiti, Marian: I had the same idea, too. I'm glad someone else finally did it, though.

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    posted 03-24-2001 06:37 AM PT (US)     

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    Credit is due where credit is deserved. It's not my idea. It's one I borrowed from another board. And the original was supposed to feature downloadable excerpts of about a minute or less.
    But in this case, I thought I'd post the whole tracks.

    Ok, as for the clips, there is no Williams in any of them. Though stylistically they are similar to his style. That's why I titled one track lukeandleia.

    Here are some clues, I'll those people who haven't yet, play some more, and I'll give the answers later.

    "lukeandleia" as well as "edgartownson" were both composed by a British composer who passed away in the early 1970's.
    Here's the name with a few letters, fill in the rest.
    A _ _ n R _ _ _ t _ _ _ _ e


    "ipulledahorner" was composed by a Russian composer who also died in the 1970's.
    D_ _ _ _ y S_ _ s _ _ _ _ _ _ _ h
    aka:
    D_ _ _ _ i S_ _ s _ _ _ _ _ _ _ h


    Congrats to all who guessed the "butman" clip.

    It is from The Terminator composed by Brad Fiedel. But it's the symphonic version which was produced by Silva Screen/edel company for a compilation titled
    "Fantastic Voyage: A Journey through Classic Fantasy Film Music".
    Performed by the City of Prague Philharmonic as conducted by William Motzing.
    Catalgoue # FILMCD146
    CD is unfortunately out of print.

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    posted 03-24-2001 08:04 AM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    That Silva disc is a really good one.

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    posted 03-24-2001 09:08 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, with that clue, No. 2 has got to be Shostakovich, but what movie?? Curiously, Halliwell's Filmgoer's Companion lists Shostakovich as the composer for a 1964 version of "War and Peace," which that music would seem to be a good fit for, but I only know of the 1956 and 1967 versions of that movie, and I don't think Shostakovich was the composer for either of those (at least not credited), so . . . I don't know the answer, but I think I may need to buy the CD when I find out.

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    posted 03-24-2001 09:35 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Ok, here's a try on my idea: 3 short excerpts from well-known film scores, all in mp3 format:

    • One (400 KB)
    • Two (120 KB)
    • Three (750 KB)

    Two may be a bit too short, and Three too long, but we'll see.

    I wanted to make a clip from Once Upon a Time in the West, too, but I couldn't find any bits in the score that wouldn't give it away immediately (except for some short excerpts that are nothing but the "long sustained string chord" Thor mentioned).

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    posted 03-24-2001 11:08 AM PT (US)     

     John Dunham
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    Marian: the clips won't download for me, so I can't guess.

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    posted 03-24-2001 12:18 PM PT (US)     

     Stephen Lister
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    Track One is Alan Rawsthorne's SARABAND FOR DEAD LOVERS. I don't know what the other Rawsthorne track is. Been meaning to pick up that anthology disc.

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    posted 03-24-2001 02:30 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    Well, I was right about out thing. I didn't know any of them. All were good. The symphonic version of Terminator threw me off. Most of the Fiedel stuff I have is flimsily orchestrated. That version you used was good and since it was the full orchestral version that is why I didn't recognize it. All of the clips were excellent. John.

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    posted 03-24-2001 02:47 PM PT (US)     

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    Here are my three guesses, Marian:

    1. Poltergeist Goldsmith
    2. A Leonard Rosenman ascending scale, probably from Fantastic Voyage
    3. Conan The Barbarian Poledouris

    How'd I do?

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    posted 03-24-2001 03:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Stephen, you're amazing. Rawsthorne it is.
    I posted these clips on two boards, and you're the only one who guessed right about them.

    Here are the correct answers:

    lukeandleia.rm
    Tracks: "Poignant Memories"
    Film: The Captive Heart http://us.imdb.com/Title?0038396
    Composer: Alan Rawsthorne
    From the album:
    The Film Music of Alan Rawsthorne (Chandos, CHAN 9749, BBC Philharmonic Orchestra/Rumon Gamba) http://www.chandos.net/Catalogue/CDDetails.asp?CatalogueID=5949

    ipulledahorner.rm
    Track: "Storming of the Seelov Hights"
    Film: The Fall of Berlin ("Padenya Berlina") http://us.imdb.com/Title?0041727
    Composer: Dmitri Shostakovich
    From the album:
    The Fall of Berlin/Zoya (Cappriccio, 10405, Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Riaas-Kammerchor/Michail Jurowski)

    edgartownson.rm
    Track: "Sarabande and Carnival"
    Film: Saraband for Dead Lovers http://us.imdb.com/Title?0040758
    Composer: Alan Rawsthorne
    From the album:
    The Film Music of Alan Rawsthorne (Chandos, CHAN 9749, BBC Philharmonic Orchestra/Rumon Gamba) http://www.chandos.net/Catalogue/CDDetails.asp?CatalogueID=5949

    butman.rm
    Track: "Terminator Theme"
    Film: The Terminator/Terminator 2: Judgment Day http://us.imdb.com/Title?0088247 http://us.imdb.com/Title?0103064
    Composer: Brad Fiedel
    From the album:
    Fantastic Voyage - A Journey Through Classic Fantasy Film Music (edel/Silva, FILMCD 146, City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra/William Motzing)


    Marian, I'm dowloading your clips now.

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    posted 03-24-2001 05:09 PM PT (US)     

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    Downloaded clips.
    All sound familiar, but I can't quite recognize them, though I think Chris might be right, or very near the mark.
    The style of the clips does sound similar to Conan (clip 3), Poltergeist (clip1) and a North-Rosenman-Goldsmith type composition (clip2).

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    posted 03-24-2001 05:25 PM PT (US)     

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    I knew the one on the Fall of Berlin sounded very familiar. It had been a long time since I had heard that one. Many years ago. John.

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    posted 03-24-2001 06:55 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    The second one from Marian sounds like Rosenman alright just as the others said and it sounds like Beneath the Planet of the Apes.

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    posted 03-24-2001 07:02 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by wistiti:
    All sound familiar, but I can't quite recognize them

    Hehehe, that's exactly how I wanted them to be like.

    Chris is totally correct about Conan, I think it should have removed the last few seconds to make it more difficult.

    The first one is NOT Goldsmith, but from another highly popular current composer. It's the only one of these cues I'm absolutely sure I'd have recognized myself, but that's just because I always have to laugh when I hear that short motif near the beginning (although I don't think there's anything funny going on at this point of the film).

    The second clip is probably a bit too short. It's NOT Rosenman, although I figured this would be the obvious guess, and the one I'd make myself. But Rosenman isn't the only one who uses tone pyramids. Try to recognize the "overall sound" of the excerpt, that might help a bit.

    I tried to keep it to scores nearly everyone should know, to show how difficult it can be to recognize short bits even when they sound familiar. The first excerpt might be a bit too new for everyone to know it, but that doesn't mean the score hasn't been around for a few years.

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    posted 03-24-2001 10:56 PM PT (US)     

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    I also recognized Conan by the last few notes also late last night. Could not get one to play yet. Goldsmith also uses the pyramids a lot. John.

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    posted 03-25-2001 06:29 AM PT (US)     

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    Marian, there are a couple of passages like number 2 in Malice. Is that it? John.

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    posted 03-25-2001 06:49 AM PT (US)     

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    Like some of the other folks, I can't get the first one to play. I finally got three late last night. John.

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    posted 03-25-2001 07:01 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    The first one is NOT Goldsmith, but from another highly popular current composer. It's the only one of these cues I'm absolutely sure I'd have recognized myself, but that's just because I always have to laugh when I hear that short motif near the beginning (although I don't think there's anything funny going on at this point of the film).

    First one is a horror flick. From a "highly popular current composer".
    Marco Screamer?

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    posted 03-25-2001 08:01 AM PT (US)     

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    Huh, Marco Screamer? I'm afraid I don't get that joke.

    It's not exactly a horror flick, but it has horror elements. Also, it's a sequel; both films were scored by the same composer.

    John, #2 is indeed Goldsmith, but not Malice (I haven't even heard that score yet ). It's one of his most famous scores. Just picking the tone pyramid as a sample is really too unspecific, but maybe somebody guesses it right anyway.

    I'm sorry that some of you have problems downloading the files, I guess it's time to look for a better webserver again.

    NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #6 (Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache)

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    posted 03-25-2001 12:00 PM PT (US)     

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    Cue 2 is "Swallow It" from TOTAL RECALL.

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    posted 03-25-2001 01:13 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Yep!

    One more to go.

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    posted 03-25-2001 01:18 PM PT (US)     

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    Boy, Stephen is really on the ball. He really knows these things. John.

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    posted 03-25-2001 03:02 PM PT (US)     
     

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