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Topic: Mark McKenzie - how many of you are unexposed to this man?

Jeron

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Alright fellas - here's a shameless plug, I must shamelessly admit.
As many of you know, I'm a big fan of Mark McKenzie's music. I attribute our member James as far as sparking my interest. BUT, I'm afraid I get the impression that many of you don't actually know his music that well. His reputation as an orchestrator precedes him, though (unfortunately) not too many people are familiar with his compositional talents.
If you are at all interested in learning more about Mark McKenzie, please check out his website. It's a virtual business card geared toward industry professionals, though has been tailored to meet the needs of his fans, as well. Sound clips from all his albums are available. And they're great!
I expect all of you to own a copy of Durango, The Lost Child, or Dr. Jekyll and Mrs. Hyde (or any of his other scores!) by the end of this year!! Even better yet, Intrada will be releasing a promotional disc featuring suites from all his films. I highly recommend picking it up as soon as it's available, as it will also boast his concert work, "The Lion and the Mouse."
Visit his website: www.MarkMcKenzie.org and be enlightened.

Shamelessly,
Jeronimo[Message edited by Jeron on 03-04-2001]
posted 03-04-2001 10:17 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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FRANK AND JESSE. Buy it. Now.
posted 03-04-2001 10:18 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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I've only heard two of his works. Durango and Dragonheart 2. Durango is just OK. nothing ground breaking or impresive here.
Dragonheart 2, I wanted so much when it was released, because I like fantasy-adventure scores. But thanks to the miracle of Napster I was able to preview the music before hand. I then found out that it is a nice listen, but nothing to write home about. Everything just seemed plain and typical. So I decided to hold off for awhile, then soon decided not to buy it.Jeron sent me some music from I think Frank and Jesse. It sounded a little more interesting than the ones mention above, but it was also just 1 track or 2, so who knows.
I precieve McKenzie at this point as just an adverage composer Who writes typical material. I don't see myself running to the stores and spending $19 on him anytime soon.
[Message edited by TimT on 03-04-2001]
posted 03-04-2001 10:34 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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Mark McKenzie is one of filmmusic's best kept secrets... You can't go wrong with any one of his scores. Tim, listen to the overture from Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde. It's fantastic and it will change your current opinion of his work. I really like the way Mark lays out his albums... There's usually a suite of themes apart from the score. Makes it real easy to make a compilation... I would like to see other composers take this approach with their soundtracks.
posted 03-04-2001 10:52 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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Jeron, I remain "unexposed" to this man, and because I'm MOM, I have no intention of exposing myself to him.
However, his music is wonderful, and he should be assigned MAJOR motion pictures.
NP Mr. Roberts.
posted 03-04-2001 11:05 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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Jeron, you and your shameless plugs!
I'm very impressed with McKenzie's music.I wish I could get more of his CDs right now.
McKenzie's music has a certain lyrical quality that I think is quite affecting, and certainly shows a man who knows his musical stuff as it were.
you can't beat his overtures. Actually, I wish more composers would put suites or overtures onto their albums, and stretch themselves a bit more. I know they're busy, but still...
oh well, I guess that's what I get for having a more of a classical background.I read about his graduate work.
I'd really like to hear his concert works.and let's get this man some more meaty films to score!
NP -- Pan Tadeusz, Kilar
posted 03-04-2001 11:08 PM PT (US) 
DeadPoet
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Rest assured, Jeron, that I have certainly been exposed to McKenzie's work (having bought most of every score that has officially been released, and wishing I could get my hands on copies of his scores that haven't yet.)His music is terrific, and I always look forward to hearing his next score. I agree with Joan, too, that he needs to be signed on to score a major picture. He's certainly talented enough.
--Jason S.
posted 03-05-2001 12:36 AM PT (US) 
wistiti

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McKenzie is certainly one of the finest in the business.But as much as I like his music, I can never stand more than 15 minutes of it. It's just too repetitive for my tastes. Same goes for some scores by John Barry and Rachel Portman.
I tend to pick out the best McKenzie cues and copy them on a compilation tape. That way I get absolutely fabulous suites. Without all the repetition.
posted 03-05-2001 06:43 AM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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Hi all,Great post...
Mark McKenzie is one of my all-time favourite composers. I have all of his CD's (with the exception of the unreleased 'Down Periscope'). Ironically, I have never seen a single film he has composed for.
I first became 'aware' of his music through the 1997 Oscars. I say 'aware' since I fell in love with an overture but did not know who composed it. I spent 3 years trying to find out who that composer was. The overture was from Dr.Jekyll and Ms.Hide and ended with Horner's brass and kettle drums from 'Ransom' (End Titles). BTW - it was used in the 'In Memoriam' section and the overture was mixed differently to that of the CD.
Ever since I found that out, I have been on a glorious quest for his music. I love his ability to change pace, melody and avoid repetition. Furthermore, his overtures just send me to cloud nine.
Equally impressive are the subtle permeations of ethnicity and/or heritage woven in various works....Durango (Irish), Lorca (South American) etc.
Actually, I tell a lie...I did see 'Dragonheart - A New Beginning' which was an appalling film and not to be recommeded. At times, I find it difficult to get passed the Edelman re-worked theme since I think that's his masterpiece (just my humble opinion).
I am in two opposing positions about his career. On the one hand...Mark is like having a lesser-known gem to be secretly guarded. On the other, I would like him to get a big break and receive the world-wide recognition he deserves.
Whatever the case...as long as he composes...I will continue to support his work.
Regards,
Rochelleposted 03-05-2001 08:15 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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I really like McKenzie's music as well. I really want to get more by him (I currently only have Dr. Jekyll... & Dragonheart), but there's so much other stuff I want too...That Dr. Jekyll overture really is fine. And Dragonheart is pretty nice too, despite the occasional borrows from Krull.
np nothing, but now when I get home, I'm going to put Dragonheart on.
posted 03-05-2001 09:37 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by Pete M:
That Dr. Jekyll overture really is fine. And Dragonheart is pretty nice too, despite the occasional borrows from Krull.Pete, I'm sure this was purely coincidental... I don't think Mr. McKenzie has even heard Krull.
Jeron
posted 03-05-2001 10:34 AM PT (US) 
John Dunham

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I also have been exposed to McKenzie's work.
Alas, though, I have found it enjoyable, but the two scores of his I have (Durango and Dragonheart 2) haven't exactly inspired me to go hunting for his scores.
Usually, when I hear a great score from a composer I've never heard before, I rush out and buy more of his works (Such was the case with Georges Delerue: I got a CDR of Chouans!, and in very short order I picked up London sessions Volumes I, II, and III, Black Robe, Curly Sue, Rich In Love, Man Trouble, The Day Of The Dolphin, and the Truffaut compilation on Nonesuch.)
For some reason though, Durango and Dragonheart 2 didn't create a similar response. Perhaps one of his scores in the future will, but until then, he remains in my eyes merely average.NP: The Dig, Land ****
[Message edited by John Dunham on 03-05-2001]
posted 03-05-2001 12:55 PM PT (US) 
majestyx

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I agree - another underrated, underused composer. Pick up his scores to Dr. Jeckyl and Mrs. Hyde and Warlock:The Armageddon, sit back and prepare to be blown away.Note that he seems to be used more as an orchestrator and conductor than as a composer, with Sleepy Hollow being a notable score that he worked on for Danny Elfman, right alongside another unsung composer whose work I admire, Conrad Pope.
posted 03-05-2001 02:46 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Well, Mr. McKenzie is anything but average - but, like most everything, his music is bound to disagree with a few people. Everyone has their own musical preferences. This is a bummer of a revelation, but that's okay! Just from the few posts here, I can tell that we've got some very dedicated McKenzie fans at MovieMusic.com. How exciting!Keep'a postin' your thoughts.

Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-05-2001]
posted 03-05-2001 02:47 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Sup G?!You know "Durango" is on my list of CDs to get. So there :-D And you will be the first to know that I have it too.
--Bri
Writer & Film/Video Editorposted 03-05-2001 03:10 PM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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quote:
Originally posted by John Dunham:
I also have been exposed to McKenzie's work.
Alas, though, I have found it enjoyable, but the two scores of his I have ([b]Durango and Dragonheart 2) haven't exactly inspired me to go hunting for his scores. Perhaps one of his scores in the future will, but until then, he remains in my eyes merely average.NP: The Dig, Land ****
[Message edited by John Dunham on 03-05-2001][/B]
Hi,
You don't need to wait for the future. Go backwards and try, 'Dr. Jekyll and Ms Hide'...or 'Frank and Jesse'.
Regards,
RochelleNP: Orchestral Film Music Vol 1 (McKenzie)
posted 03-05-2001 06:44 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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I am a total bastard. I have nothing by Mark McKenzie.I have some work to do.
And Jeron---he HAD to have heard Krull before, man!
Shaun
NP---Nothing by Mark McKensie
posted 03-05-2001 07:08 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Shaun, I've got a *very good* hunch that he hasn't heard Krull before.I could be wrong... We'll see.
Jeron
posted 03-05-2001 08:44 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Is there an album called KRULL? I thought it was a place. Hey, if *I* don't know what it is, I don't see how a silly fanboy like McKenzie is going to hear about it.NP: KING KONG ESCAPES (Akira Ifukube) (damned if McKenzie didn't lift practically all of TO DIE FOR 2 from this!)
posted 03-05-2001 10:59 PM PT (US) 
Drixorial
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who?yes I remain unexposed, but there's quite a bit I haven't been exposed to yet..so eh *shrugs*
I have contributed nothing
[Message edited by Drixorial on 03-06-2001]
posted 03-06-2001 04:23 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Don't worry Jason... I'll enlighten you.
posted 03-06-2001 04:45 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

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I do think a lot of people have been "exposed" to Mark McKenzie's work. I think everyone should read Rochelle's post again, and just think how many people heard the beautiful piece of music underscoring the "In Memoriam" segment during the 1997 Oscar telecast. Unlike Rochelle, not everyone accepted their mission to find out what this music was, or even who composed it. Millions upon millions viewed this, many emotions took over as people cried as they watched photos and slow-motion clips of smiling Hollywood stars who'd never again enjoy their Hollywood successes. For a moment, McKenzie's music was commanding the emotions of millions. I've never asked Mark myself, but I wonder how he felt when he saw and heard how his music for some lackluster film ended up in a powerful piece like this. For those like Rochelle who searched high and low for this music, even if it took three years, they found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.I sit here listening to Frank and Jesse (much preferred over what was previously in my CD player - The Mexican). In this score alone, everything film music fans have ever longed for exists. Mark McKenzie's most powerful "weapon" as a composer is his talent for beautiful melody. Listen to his music as you feel your heart and mind pierced. In Frank and Jesse, as in many of McKenzie's film scores, grandeur is effortlessly mixed with intimacy. I dare say all but the best composers are able to do this. Musical moments lift your spirits and make you want to get on your horse and ride like the wind ("Main Title"), and, moments later, make you look deep inside your own selves and find what might really be the truth in life ("Family Moments").
Kudos to any composer who uses the Arched String Wire in a film score....
Never stop writing, Mark!
posted 03-06-2001 09:39 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Pete M:
[b]That Dr. Jekyll overture really is fine. And Dragonheart is pretty nice too, despite the occasional borrows from Krull.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>Pete, I'm sure this was purely coincidental... I don't think Mr. McKenzie has even heard Krull.
Jeron[/B]
Strange. When I listened to it again, I didn't notice Krull references nearly as much as I did (thought I did?) when I first bought it.
Still, nice score regardless.np Lionheart (by some bloke I've never heard of before)
posted 03-07-2001 03:31 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Mark mentioned that he intentionally styled some of Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde in a John Williams fashion. It has a Witches of Eastwick flavor and makes an obvious "tip of the hat" to 1941 in the track, "Taking Back My Chromosomes." A very fun score!
posted 03-07-2001 09:32 AM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Jeron, I have liked this fellow for several years. Although, some of his work sounds derivative, I still like most of it. Frank and Jesse and Lost Child are two of my favorites. John.
posted 03-25-2001 03:21 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Awesome, John! Those are two very fine scores.Jeron
posted 03-25-2001 09:12 PM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
Mark McKenzie's most powerful "weapon" as a composer is his talent for beautiful melody. Listen to his music as you feel your heart and mind pierced. In Frank and Jesse, as in many of McKenzie's film scores, grandeur is effortlessly mixed with intimacy.Wonderfully articulated criticism....
Rochelle
posted 03-27-2001 04:59 AM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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Jeron,Is there a release date (be it tentative or definite) for the new Intrada release of McKenzie's overtures?
Regards,
Rochelleposted 03-27-2001 05:03 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Rochelle,I'm sure there is, though Intrada hasn't officially announced it. It should be out in the next couple of months, I'm assuming. I'll e-mail a couple folks and find out for ya. I'm excited about the new cd, as well.
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-27-2001]
posted 03-27-2001 08:52 AM PT (US) 
Scorro
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Anyone interested in Mark McKenzie's work should get his score to "The Disappearance of Garcia Lorca". And you might want to check out the movie too; not perfect, but an interesting and compelling screenplay._Sc
posted 03-27-2001 10:44 AM PT (US) 
Quill
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Just wanted to chime in...I love Franke & Jesse...but sadly its the only score by Mr. McKenzie that I own. I hang my head in shame!
posted 03-27-2001 10:54 AM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
Rochelle,
I'll e-mail a couple folks and find out for ya.
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-27-2001]I wonder if its possible to find out if there will ever be a release for 'Down Periscope'.
Regards,
Rochelleposted 03-28-2001 07:02 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Rochelle, Randy Edelman composed most of the music in "Down Periscope," while Mark orchestrated and composed several additional cues. His contribution to the film was really good, though if an album were ever released, it would most likely feature Edelman's music, as he was the one credited.Fortunately though, Mark has put together a suite of his music from "Down Periscope" which will cover all his favorite cues from the film. The suite will be included on the new compilation disc coming out from Intrada.
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-28-2001]
posted 03-28-2001 07:31 PM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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Hey JeronThanks for clarifying this. I just assumed he did it since it appears on his website. I should have done more reading. I am a bad girl indeed. I'm happy to hear that a DP suite will appear on the upcoming CD.
May I ask..what attracted you to McKenzie?
Regards,
Rochelleposted 03-28-2001 08:06 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Well, firstly, I must credit PeterK and James for introducing me to his music. PeterK has always championed "Durango" and "Frank and Jesse." James sent me a clip from "Garcia Lorca." After those three, I was hooked. Mark's melodic sensibilities captivate me. It's a hard question to answer, as it's kinda like asking me why I like any of the composers that I like. I just do.quote:
Peter best summed it up with this statement:
Mark McKenzie's most powerful "weapon" as a composer is his talent for beautiful melody. Listen to his music as you feel your heart and mind pierced. In Frank and Jesse, as in many of McKenzie's film scores, grandeur is effortlessly mixed with intimacy.On top of that, he's just a great guy with a big heart and a sincere passion for what he does. That really motivates and inspires me.
Jeron
posted 03-28-2001 09:46 PM PT (US) 
cine-sin

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quote:
Originally posted by PeterK:
For those like Rochelle who searched high and low for this music, even if it took three years, they found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.Hi all
There is a story behind this...I spent 3 years taking tapes to music shops, placing threads on message boards, searching the internet, showing the Oscar clip to friends, waiting for the Oscar historian to take questions again. In hindsight, the range of solutions were astounding and ranged from Alex North to George Fenton. Finally, frustration set in and I ended up paying someone to find out for me. He took four days to come up with the right answer.
If only I had done that earlier.You should have seen the shocked expression on my face when I saw the CD cover for 'Jekyll' for the first time.
Regards,
Rochelleposted 03-28-2001 10:47 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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LOL, Rochelle... and Mark's score for "Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde" is definitely a book one shouldn't judge by its cover, right?That's great...
[Message edited by Jeron on 03-28-2001]
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