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Ed Coleman Oscar® Winner	Need a little help, does anyone have a tracklisting for a 33 track, 77+ min version of Star Trek First Contact? Thanks Ed
posted 02-27-2001 10:56 AM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	Finding a track-list for first contact you will encounter the problems inherent in many bootlegs. I got an original version of this boot. It was unlabelled, horribly out of order, and generally a mess. Fortunately, unlike the other Star Trek boots, this one IS complete. I went through and meticulously sorted out the cues, placed them in film order, fit unused music to appropriate scenes where possible, added source music and created cover art. I'm sure a hundred other people did the same thing, so who knows which version of the boot you have -- you might even have mine! Anyway, I will give you my cue-titles, as well as track times and other information. Hopefully you'll be able to sort it out from there. I might add that I take great pride in these track titles. STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT By Jerry and Joel Goldsmith DISC ONE (45:33) 1. Main Title (2:55) 2. Locutus (1:28)^ 3. Captain's Log (0:28)* 4. Battle Transmissions (1:12)* 5. Red Alert (2:15) 6. Temporal Wake (2:07) 7. April 4, 2063 (1:45)* 8. The Phoenix (1:08)* 9. Maintenance (0:26)* 10. 39.1 Degrees Celcius (4:48)^ 11. Lower Decks (1:15)^ 12. Retreat (4:01)^ 13. The Hive (1:32) 14. Assimilation (1:03)* 15. Welcome Aboard (2:41) 16. Order from Chaos (1:09)+ 17. Goosebumps (1:05) 18. Not Swedish (1:27)^ 19. Space Walk (1:34) 20. Fully Functional (3:22) 21. The Dish (7:16) DISC TWO (44:51) 1. To Stay and Fight (1:59)* 2. Drawing the Line (2:45)* 3. Evacuate (2:26) 4. Escape Pod Launch (2:55)* 5. Flight of the Phoenix/Future's End (6:29)* 6. First Contact (5:59) 7. End Credits (5:30) SOURCE MUSIC 8. "Vallon Sonore" (5:24) From "Les Troyens" by Hector Berlioz 9. "Ooby Dooby" (2:26) Written and Performed by Roy Orbison 10. "Moonlight Becomes You" (3:12) Written by Johnny Burke and James Van Heuson Performed by Ella Fitzgerald (Not the film recording) 11. "Magic Carpet Ride" (4:28) Written and Performed by Steppenwolf BONUS TRACK 12. Borg Assault (1:20)+ Previously unreleased ^ Composed by Joel Goldsmith + Not used in the film
posted 02-27-2001 02:46 PM PT (US)

Audacity Oscar® Winner	Wedge, Great track titles man. I have been trying to find time to make some track titles for this disc, I think I'll just use yours, they fit perfect. I also like that you included the Berlioz track. Audacity
posted 02-28-2001 01:39 PM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	I thought Joel did the Flight of the Phoenix cue. [Message edited by HAL 2000 on 02-28-2001]
posted 02-28-2001 02:12 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	Oops! He did! My bad.
posted 02-28-2001 02:19 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	Alright, I'm going to admit my ignorance. I've never acquired a bootleg copy of anything. My entire soundtrack collection to date has been legitimately bought. There are, however, bootlegs that I want, like for example...oh...the one described in this thread. How would I go about getting it?
posted 02-28-2001 02:35 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	Post at the trading board. You'll find someone to help. If no one wants to trade with you, or is willing to let you send them a few CD-Rs to burn, I can put you on my list. But be warned: it's a long, long, long list. Check the trading board and see what happens.
posted 02-28-2001 02:43 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Audacity: I also like that you included the Berlioz track. The scene that uses it has become my favourite part of the film. Riker's face appearing on the window during the string part works perfectly. I just borrowed the whole opera from library and guess what - it's the same recording they used in the film! NP: The Draughtsman's Contract (Michael Nyman)
posted 02-28-2001 02:47 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	I don't think "Vallon Sonore" appears on any of the exerpt albums. You have to buy the complete "Les Troyens" ... and only two recordings exist! It's HUGE!
posted 02-28-2001 02:59 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	Thanks, Wedge On a totally unrelated note, it just occured to me what a shame it would be if, rather than assuming that your name was a reference to the venerable character Mr. Antilles or his FF counterpart, people gave you the unfortunate nickname of 'Wedgie.'
posted 02-28-2001 03:16 PM PT (US)

DaveK Oscar® Winner	>I just borrowed the whole opera from >library and guess what - it's the same >recording they used in the film! Marian, can you give some more information on which recording you've got?
posted 02-28-2001 03:24 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Hector Berlioz: Les Troyens Jon Vickers, Josephine Veasey, Berit Lindholm, Peter Glossop, Heather Beg, Roger Soyer, Anthony Raffell, Anne Howells, Ian Partridge, Pierre Thau, Elizabeth Bainbridge, Ryland Davies, Raimund Herincx, Dennis Wicks, David Lennox Wandsworth School Boys' Choir (Chorus Master: Russel Burgess) Chorus and Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden (Chorus Master: Douglas Robinson) Leader: Charles Taylor Clarinet: Ian Herbert Conducted by Sir Colin Davis Recorded: London 10/1969 Total playing time: 3.59'56" Philips 416 432-2 (4 CDs, but nicely sequenced: Every disc holds exactly one act, except CD #2 which holds acts 2 & 3 - no "false" pauses when changing discs) I've played it only once so far (as Wedgie said, it's huge), but I made an mp3 of the short excerpt that's used in First Contact and keep playing that one all the time. NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #8 (Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache)
posted 02-28-2001 04:05 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	Here's the version I have: Hector Berlioz: Les Troyens Gary Lakes, Deborah Voigt, Francoise Pollet Choeur de l'Orchestre symphonique de Montreal Orchestre symphonique de Montreal Conducted by Charles Dutoit Recorded: 1993 Total playing time: 237.46 min. DECCA/LONDON 443 693-2 (A prestigious label for opera!) Like the Davis version, there are 4-CDs, with one disc per act, with the exception of disc two which holds all of Acts 2 and 3. This recording is of much higher audio quality than all the rest, the tempos are generally faster and more energetic -- closer to Berlioz's own notes -- and is the most authentically French in terms of performance and pronounciation. It is probably not the exact recording used in the film, but if you're going to buy the complete opera I recommend this one.
posted 02-28-2001 04:32 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	So these are the only two existing recordings? Funnily, while my version is without a doubt the one used in the film, the IMDb credits a singer that's not listen on my CD cover (unless I'm blind). ...so Wedge, you actually used a different version for your expanded First Contact than the one used in the film? Tststs... NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #8 (Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache) - Also a long work
posted 02-28-2001 04:48 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	I always thought "Vallon Sonore" was an incredibly clever bit of spotting. It is the tragic lament of a Trojan captain who can never return to his homeland. (Troy, you'll remember, fell victim to the Greeks' Trojan Horse -- a device not entirely unlike the Borg's duplicitous attack on Earth.) Picard was playing music that aptly expressed his own pent-up frustration at being unable to return home while his nation suffered. In fact, the Borg DO eventually transform the Enterprise-E into a "Trojan Horse": non-threatening on the outside, packed with enemy soldiers. Indeed, massive, headache-inducing plot-holes aside, "First Contact" carries a wealth of naval and literary tradition. Picard parallells first Odysseus (removed from his homeland by a large amount of time, tempted to remain by an attractive relationship, in danger of being permanently stranded, his ship is almost destroyed, and he must outwit an enchantress who can change men into beasts -- Borg in this case ...) and then Ahab (the quest for vengeance at the expense of crew and ship, against an enemy who severely wounded him in the past.) Then there's the whole Phoenix thing ...
posted 02-28-2001 04:53 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	When I was researching the opera before purchase, I thought these were the only two COMPLETE versions. Until someone corrects me, I'll keep thinking that. I guess I didn't use the same version they used in the film. Back when I was putting together my CDs, Vallon Sonore was nowhere to be found on Napster! And I sure as heck wasn't going to buy more than one version of the complete opera! It's great and all, but with my budget I don't love it that much! Besides, the Dutoit rendition of that particular scene sounds great anyhow.
posted 02-28-2001 04:58 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I suspected there's a deeper meaning in the use of Vallon Sonore (it wouldn't be Star Trek otherwise ), but as I haven't yet read the lyrics to the piece, I didn't know in what way. Of course, judging music objectively isn't possible, but I think it's still interesting to read some reviews - here are Gramophone reviews for the Davis and Dutoit versions. From what I gathered in these reviews, these are indeed the only available complete recordings. Wedge, if you'd like an mp3 of the Davis Vallon Sonore, just let me know. BTW, I didn't notice "massive, headache-inducing plot-holes" in First Contact? It's a great film (with a fantastic performance by Patrick Stewart), though Khan* (the other "Moby Dick Trek") remains my favourite Trek movie. --- ) Somehow the URLs seem to be too complex for the "URL" tag, so I include them here: Davis: www.gramofile.co.uk/folio/om_isapi.dll?clientID=144636&E1=Les%20Troyens&E2=&E3=Berlioz&E4=&E5=&E6=&E7=&E8=&E9=&infobase=gramofile.nfo&querytemplate=Test&record={2827}&s oftpage=Document42&x=0&y=0* Dutoit: www.gramofile.co.uk/folio/om_isapi.dll?clientID=144636&E1=Les%20Troyens&E2=&E3=Berlioz&E4=&E5=&E6=&E7=&E8=&E9=&infobase=gramofile.nfo&querytemplate=Test&record={8E1D}&s oftpage=Document42&x=0&y=0 --- NP: See above. [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 02-28-2001]
posted 02-28-2001 05:12 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Additional info: You American and English people have no idea how crippled versions most people around here have to watch. I'm speaking of dubs. I just compared the English and German language tracks on my DVD (the briefing, Les Troyens and Ahab sequences), and the German dub is downright horrible. I don't think the speakers ever listened to the original tracks. I knew that dubs were horrible (and I've been evading them whenever possible), but I didn't know they are THAT bad. DVDs are a blessing.
posted 02-28-2001 06:04 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	Actually, Marian, I'd LOVE an mp3 of the Davis version of that cue. Did you burn the complete set on CD-R? If you did, a wav file would be even better, if you could manage it.
posted 02-28-2001 06:13 PM PT (US)

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