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TimT Oscar® Winner	Do the people bidding on this know, that this score was released with 30 min more music, and better cover art and half the price?? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1411521360
posted 02-24-2001 12:44 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Most probably do. They are probably bidding for the later value of it. After all, it is rare. I guess. Scott
posted 02-24-2001 12:48 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	Yes...it is rare, just like KFC's popcorn chicken but....
posted 02-24-2001 12:51 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	People at eBay even pay double prices for DVDs that are regularly available in every store. I don't complain - maybe I'll sell something at eBay myself in the future. NP: Gustav Mahler: Symphony #3 (Vienna Philharmonic, Lorin Maazel)
posted 02-24-2001 01:06 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by TimT: Yes...it is rare, just like KFC's popcorn chicken but.... LOL! That was a good one Tim. I needed that. Thanks. Scotty
posted 02-24-2001 01:15 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Question, do all scores get sent in for preview on 20 min discs like this? --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor
posted 02-24-2001 10:48 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	Answer, possibly. Ask the academy, and then when they reply say you'd like to thank them
posted 02-24-2001 11:38 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	LOL. Doesn't the Mulan promo run for about 60 minutes? My copy is a combination of Promo and regular release, I think, but most of it is from the Promo. NP: City Hall (Jerry Goldsmith)
posted 02-25-2001 04:36 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Marian, my Mulan runs nearly 78 minutes long. No songs, all score. Jeron
posted 02-25-2001 10:42 AM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	Jeron's disc probably includes the an alternate or two and the long suite which was recorded especially for the album.
posted 02-25-2001 11:01 AM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: Marian, my Mulan runs nearly 78 minutes long. No songs, all score. Oh great, thanks for sharing dude. Scott NP: Wish I could listen to a whole score of Mulan, but someone won't share...
posted 02-25-2001 11:41 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Jer, shame on you, it's nice to share! --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor NP: Family Man Danny Elfman (****)
posted 02-25-2001 12:32 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Question, do all scores get sent in for preview on 20 min discs like this? --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor The Apollo 13 Promo runs about 59:00 min. Most of the Promos I've seen run the same length or longer that their official releases. My Mulan runs 78 min as well with about 5 alternate cuts and no songs.
posted 02-25-2001 01:01 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I think my copy has all the score from the film except the main title, plus all the songs except one. I assumed the suite was just cut & paste stuff? NP: First Blood (Silvester Stallone is on the front cover, does that mean he wrote the score?)
posted 02-25-2001 01:45 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Marian, here's my tracklisting... compare it. 01) Overture 02) Main Title 03) Attack At The Wall - The Emporer 04) Prayers - Grandma's Cricket 05) The Matchmaker 06) Homecoming 07) Proclamation From The Emperor 08) The Transformation - Mulan Leaves 09) Awakening The Great Stone Dragon 10) Master Plan 11) Shan-Yu 12) A Man's World 13) Ping Introduces 14) A New Day 15) The Arrow 16) The Doll 17) Bogus Letter 18) The Delivery 19) Burnt Village - The General Is Dead 20) Arrow Attack 21) The Huns Attack 22) Avalanche 23) The Masquerade Is Over 24) Confessions - Surviving Huns 25) Victory Celebration 26) Fireworks 27) The Huns Intrude 28) Concubines - Saving The Emperor 29) Mushu To The Rescue 30) Honoring Mulan 31) Reunion 32) End Credits 33) Reprise 34) The Emperor - Prayers (Alternate) 35) Mulan's Transformation (Alternate) 36) Confessions - To The Imperial City (Alternate) The Overture is the Suite from the Disney Song/Score disc. Track 8 (Transformation) is the promo's "Short Hair" cue. The track titles on this one are stupid, but oh well. The End Credits are weird... I don't remember them from the movie. The Reprise at the end is another version of the Overture (Suite) - orchestrated differently. Sounds like it was recorded somewhere else. Who knows where it's from! Regardless, it's pretty neat. Anyway, that's that............ Jeron PS - Scott, you're welcome! I'll share with you any time! [Message edited by Jeron on 02-25-2001]
posted 02-25-2001 03:30 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Hmm. Difficult to compare, some track titles are similar, some are different. In some cases I can guess that they refer to the same music (funny enough, your track The General Is Dead is called The Doll Survives on my album ), but although I have the DVD, I have only seen the film twice, so I can't remember everything. What I do remember though is that aside from the main title music (which I'll rip from the DVD some day), I didn't miss any music when watching the film. Though now that I think of it, there may have been a bit of score during the end credits that's not on my disc... Thanks for listing the titles. Are the alternates very different from the used cues? NP: Rambo - First Blood Part II (Sly Stallone)
posted 02-25-2001 03:56 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Mulan's Transformation (Alternate) is the same track as found on the Disney Song/Score disc. On that cd, it's titled "Mulan's Decision." Instead of using pulsating electronics, it's a fully orchestral underscore - a bit more triumphant than what made it into the film. Has a different psychological effect. Both are great... Jeron
posted 02-25-2001 04:50 PM PT (US)

John Dunham Oscar® Winner	Seems like there are several versions of this. Jeron, that can't be the real end credits, though. Just watched Mulan recently, and the pop version of Reflections fills the end credits, just like in any other Disney film. I doubt Goldsmith would even have written an end credits. Maybe somebody mixed you a suite?
posted 02-25-2001 05:00 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	Well here are the cues on mine: 1. Suite from Mulan 2. Main Titles 3. Attack at the Wall/Preparation 4. The Matchmaker 5. Dishonor 6. Mulan's Decision (Short Hair) 7. One Chance 8. The Master Plan 9. Shan Yu 10. Blossom/Truth All Around 11. Shoulders Back/Avalanche 12. Ping 13. The Real Work 14. Morning Assembly 15. Deserted Village 16. Bogus Letter 17. Letter Delivered 18. The Doll Survives/What's Wrong with Ping (aka The Burned Out Village) 19. Save The Cannons 20. The Huns Attack 21. Imperial Palace 22. The Imperial Palace 23. Sword Snatcher 24. Boo 25. A Lucky Bug 26. Gratitude 27. The Pendant 28. the Sword Alternate Takes 29. The Matchmaker 30. Short Hair #1 31. Short Hair #2 32. One Chance 33. The Master Plan 34. Ping 35. Avalanche 36. A lucky Bug Whoever sequenced this Album used the cues off of the original Disney album in some cases which explains the out of sequence order on tracks 10 & 11 and then used the actual promo cues as alternates with the exception of a few that are actual alt cues.
posted 02-25-2001 06:26 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	John, I assure you the "End Credits" is no suite. And yeah, I had a BIG feeling it wasn't in the film. I think I would have remembered it (and trust me, you'll know what I'm talking about). This is like a completely different recording..... different orchestration..... viola or something solo. It's beautiful, but does NOT sound Goldsmith in style. It starts out with the theme and then gets REALLLLLY funky!! It's very strange. Click here for the mp3. Jeron AMENDED 1 HOUR LATER: Just found out that this version of the theme is performed by Vanessa-Mae, renowned fusion-techno violinist. Still, it's strange. And I guess that theme isn't by Goldsmith... it's by Mr. Zippel. [Message edited by Jeron on 02-25-2001]
posted 02-25-2001 08:58 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: PS - Scott, you're welcome! I'll share with you any time! You better! Scott
posted 02-25-2001 10:38 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	My version: 1. Honor To Us All (Song) 2. Reflection (Song) 3. Man Out of You (Song) 4. A Girl Worth Fighting For (Song) 5. True To Your Heart (Song) 6. Attack At the Wall 7. Preparation 8. The Matchmaker 9. Short Hair 10. One Chance 11. The Master Plan 12. Shan Yu 13. Blossoms 14. Shoulders Back 15. Ping 16. The Real Work 17. Morning Assembly 18. Deserted Village 19. Bogus Letter 20. Letter Delivered 21. The Doll Survives 22. Save the Cannons 23. The Huns Attack 24. Avalanche 25. What's Wrong With Ping 26. Truth All Around 27. The Imperial Palace 29. Sword Snatcher 30. Boo 31. A Lucky Bug 32. Gratitude 33. The Pendandt 34. The Sword 35. Reflection (End Credits) (Song) That alternate Short Hair must be interesting, though I can't imagine it being powerful than the superb version used in the film. Jeron, I strongly believe that the Vanessa Mae piece is used in the film's end credits. I thought about a solo violin before you even posted your message. If I don't forget, I'll check it on the DVD later this evening. NP: The Draughtsman's Contract (Michael Nyman)
posted 02-26-2001 09:57 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Weird. I checked the DVD - the Vanessa Mae cue is NOT played during the end credits, and it is NOT used during the "Reflection" scene, either. But I'm sure I've heard it before. NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #8 (Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache)
posted 02-26-2001 03:21 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	It was a music video... you can check it out at Vanessa Mae's website.
posted 02-26-2001 06:23 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	But I don't think I've seen the music video, I think I would remember that. Still confused.
posted 02-26-2001 06:35 PM PT (US)

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