Only the principal composer(s) or song writer(s) responsible for the conception and execution of the work as a whole shall be eligible for an award. This expressly excludes from eligibility all of the following:

supervisors (rude interruption #1: phew!)

partial contributors (e.g., any writer not responsible for the over-all design of the work)

contributors working on speculation

scores diluted by the use of tracked or pre-existing music (rude interruption #2: I guess this rule wasn't in effect when Titanic and The Full Monty were nominated and won the awards)

scores diminished in impact by the predominant use of songs (rude interruption #3: I guess this rule wasn't in effect when The Full Monty was nominated and won the award)

scores assembled from the music of more than one composer.

Rude Summation: I took that last thing to mean that Gladiator (with Zimmer, Gerrard, Badelt, Holst, Rabin, Wagner, Glennie-Smith, Gregson-Williams, Fawcett-Majors, Powell, and Zimmer all contributing 14 seconds of music each) and Chicken Run (Powell/Gregson-Williams, etc.) couldn't be nominated.

What does everyone else make of this? If Gladiator can't be nominated, thank the Lord. If Chicken Run can't be nominated, it's more frustrating. There's a good score in there, but why can't one of the men just take a damned holiday and let the other write the score? Damned "Buddy Scoring"!

Anyway..........discuss.

Shaun

The rules are vauge enough that any score, even a multi-composed MV score can be nominated as long as one person can be the focal point as the composer. Hans Zimmer is the only one on Gladiator who is eligible as a composer (and Lisa Gerrad might be elgible as a song writer?)

Gladiator will be nominated because there is powerful marketing muscle behind it, from the Studio all the way to media ventures. Say what you will about his music, (you will anyway) but Hans Zimmer understands the way the system works and he has no qualms about doing what it takes to get nominated and if nominated will do whatever he can to win.

that should theoretically make it ineligible.

Basically, this could mean that only the principle composer is eligible. Shag all the rest.

It specifically Excludes: Partial Contibutors, Supervisors,Temp Tracks, Song Tracks, Scores assembled from Classical Music (I am guessing that they mean note for note, not stylistic cribs)

Gladiator, despite how many people may have worked on it is still credited to Zimmer as the primary composer.

---James Horner is ineligible for nomination.

At the moment it's odds on favorite to win.

It's always amusing to see you talk about things you haven't a clue about.

Regards,
Ford A. Thaxton

Isn't it hilarious, man? The way I read the rule (I already wrote this), I looked at it as meaning that because Gladiator had 79 composers (with Lisa Gerrard retaining main on-screen credit), it couldn't be credited.

We are about to have virtually the same argument that we had last year, Ford. I'm reading the rule as it's written. And according to the Academy's official list for eligibility (posted by Jonathan Broxton at Filmtracks), Fantasia 2000 is also just as likely to get a nomination as Gladiator. I would think that Fantasia 2000 in particular would go against quite a few of their rules.
Quit emailing me, Ford. You're a pain in the rear.

Shaun

NP---Planet Of The Apes

Why bother? It is just a nasty popularity contest and an oportunity for the stars to use all those ludicrous dresses, made by drug-adicted fashion designers.

Does anyone have any doubt that the laughable GLADIATOR will win?

Get real people...

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
It'd be funny if it just read:
---James Horner is ineligible for nomination.
Shaun

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As is anyone who who knows what they are talking about then you do.

Shaun, haven't you figured out yet that you really haven't a clue about how
this business really works yet?

Regards,

Ford A. Thaxton

Ford, you can continue to email me once you get a grasp on how to structure a sentence. Reread that first sentence of his and think how someone who could write a sentence like that is out there producing film music. If anything, Ford is showing us all that we don't have to have what is usually called "a functioning brain" to become a record producer.

Shaun

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Subject: But you can't afford too many fish and chips on the sales from your little store
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:08:07 EST
From: Fordat1@aol.com
To: peterkelly at moviemusic.com

:-)

The community isn't being very supportive now is it?

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Ford, it's FishChip. Not Fish and Chips. You should know better. And why didn't you sign your regards, with your name?

See what a nice guy Ford is? He loves my little store here. I wonder why he can't post here.

Shaun, I think you should learn how your email client's filters work.

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Quote of the day:
As is anyone who who knows what they are talking about then you do.

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Because I won't drop to my knees and kiss your spoiled ass.

You are a dishonest human being and clearly lack the spine to stand opinions which don't agree with yours.

That's the truth of the matter Mr. Kelly,

When you get some balls, let me know.

Ford

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I don't know what's happened to Ford.

Pathetic...

I have a master's degree, and I think I can read (that's what the school said anwyay), and I came up with the same conclusion.

according to the way it reads Gladiator can't be nominated.
Of course I realize that's not how the political machinery works. Rules are made to be broken after all, evidenced by the nominations announced this morning.

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Originally posted by PeterK:
Andre, it's called "fun." You aren't the only one who can have it around here, dood.

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Oh... Didn't know that posting personal e-mails from someone who was banned from a message board because "he is a danger for the comunity" was fun. Isn't it illegal, in the first place??

Well, just let the guy start posting again and have fun with it, instead of blocking him and them copy and paste his personal e-mails...

Or try to start threads like "Hanzinzer should die". Man, that's fun!

Bye...

But I understand this is not even half exciting as revealing mr. Thaxton's personal emails on this board...

Consider this a warning, even though warning people to "speak cleanly or else" isn't in the constitution of this place (I am being a "polite" FishChip, in case you are wondering. I don't want Lou G, Dan G and the rest of the freedom of speech brigade on my butt).

Oh, I see.
It's ok to post someone else's private e-mails on the board (worst, someone who's banned and therefor cannot defend himself), but one cannot say "Big Tits".

"Make WAR not SEX"

Let's see. Three weeks ago, you said you were never coming back. Now you are back, you've posted your obligatory "Hans Zimmer Sucks" thread (which I have no problems with), and you've gone wacka-nuts with all the rest of your posts, calling people all sorts of things, from slime traitor to pathetic. Obviously, this breaks the rules about being civil, and is completely unnecessary, unless all you want to do is stir up trouble. Andre, you are on your way out, and it won't be my choice. It's yours.

Be cool, dood. Calling everyone pathetic and stirring up trouble just to stir up trouble gets as old and as bald as Hans Zimmer and his music (to use your words).

If you want a place to fool around, there are plenty of places to do it. Just not here.