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Topic: Waxing about Waxman-ref. Joan H's post

John C Winfrey

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Joan, I agree with you about him. His music is very complex. I really like the full dramatic score for Devil Doll. That CD only has the incidental music, not the actual dramatic score on it. Great theme for the small dolls and some great action music along the lines of some of the Bride of F. type of feel. Very interesting film too. Fury is another with small amount of scoring but very effective for the lynch film with Spencer Tracy and Walter Brennan, Sylvia Sydney. Very short but effective score. Camera work is good in it too. All the score is in first half of film.Like you I have thought highly of him and first noticed his music back in late '50s and early '60s. Spirit of St. Louis has always been a favorite of mine with both his original ending and the reworked ending on the old LP/CD arranged by Ray Heindorf. Both are great. Best, John.
posted 02-04-2001 03:36 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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Thank you John for your comments. Here is the topic I posted elsewhere.
I don’t find a lot of response to Golden Age music on this Board; however,
perhaps this will encourage a few “youngins” to note his fine music.I’m just discovering what a wonderful composer Franz Waxman was.
I’d always loved MR. ROBERTS and CIMARRON but didn’t know
many other Waxman scores. I recently acquired several Legends of Hollywood:
Franz Waxman CD’s and am amazed by the complexity of his compositions,
his musical versatility, and his melodies.Revisiting CIMARRON and MR. ROBERTS was rewarding; however,
my favorite discovery was the main theme to UNTAMED. It’s rousing and
majestic in the same vein as MR.ROBERTS. I looked the movie up on the IMDB
(Tyrone Power, Susan Hayward in Africa with Zulus) and remembered that I’d
seen this movie several times on AMC. Slap my forehead! I never noticed the
music while watching it. That seems rather abnormal for a soundtrack aficionado.
Another delectable discovery was the melodious MY GEISHA. Gorgeous score
with an ethnic flavor.His versatility is amazing. MY COUSIN RACHEL is quite lovely but laced with
darker tones echoing Rachel’s calcified heart. BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN,
DEVIL DOLL, DARK CITY portray fear, action, melancholy, and
dementia. His lighter comedic side is echoed in HUCKLEBERRY FINN and
parts of THE CHRISTMAS CAROL. He provides action epic themes
for ANNE OF THE INDIES and BOTANY BAY. His flair for drama is
evident in THE NUN’S STORY.Anyway if you know of other movies heralding some of his magnificent music,
let me know. I would certainly rank this man as one of our finest Golden Age
film composers.posted 02-04-2001 03:59 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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And Joan don't forget his jazz style scoring: Crime in the Streets-a forerunner to West Side Story-1955, I a Jury and Rear Window. Best, John.
posted 02-05-2001 05:22 AM PT (US) 
MWRuger

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Joan,I agree with you that Franz Waxman was indeed one of the pre-eminent of the Golden Age. His key talent, I believe was versatility. Overall, it is difficult to think of a Waxman score that isn’t filled with well-composed music that well suits its picture (so far as I know). Indeed, he is probably the most accessible and versatile of the Golden Age.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Herrmann’s broody masterpieces, Korngold’s rousing adventuresome tunes, Steiner and Young’s emotional, soulful, stirring music and countless other great scores. But to me, you can learn to recognize their work by ear alone simply because of the distinct style and the approach to scoring they used. Waxman stands out in this regard because of his willingness to modify style and approach. Consider Prince Valiant. Here is a score that would be easy to dismiss as a pastiche of Korngold, but careful listening rewards the listener with a banquet of pure Waxman that is close to stunning. His adventurous themes call forth the essential elements of the Prince Valiant saga from the heroic to the romantic.
(As an aside, I have seen a lot of bashing of this film (Prince Valiant) and while I can understand why some might not make a connection, let me point out that this movie was based on the long running comic strip, not the other way around. I have read every strip from 1934 until Hal Foster left. I can tell you that it captured the spirit of original strip very well. Certainly, a great deal of credit goes to the music but it owes a huge debt to Hal Foster’s incredible work)
I know that in this regard we share this taste, and I would recommend the Peyton Place re-recording as well as Objective Burma as two excellent Waxman scores. I also recommend the four volume Legends of Hollywood series from Varese.
I have said before that we are living in the Golden Age of Film Score releases and with the release of Beneath the 12 Mile Reef and all the other incredible re-records and lost finds, how can anyone doubt?
[Message edited by MWRuger on 02-07-2001]
posted 02-06-2001 02:05 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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Thanks MWRuger for your Waxman insights.
I agree with all of your comments and will check out your movie
suggestions. I wish I knew more Golden Age composers; I’m
slowly learning about various ones. I find Rozsa, Waxman,
and Tiomkin extremely enjoyable, versatile, and accessible. While
I admire and respect how well Herrmann can wrap movie scenes
with perfect aural soundscapes, he isn’t one I listen to separated
from a movie. The others are perfect listening companions for me.NP Ben Hur
posted 02-06-2001 09:24 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
