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    Topic:   Opinions on these scores?

     Mark Olivarez
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    I happened to stumble across a few of these scores the other day. I'm thinking about buying them but I wanted some opinions first.

    Sphere (Goldenthal)
    Jungle Book (Live action version by Basil Poledouris)
    The Good Son (Elmer Bernstein)
    Searching For Bobby Fischer (Horner)
    Ivanhoe (Broughton re-recording)
    Quigley Down Under (Poledouris)
    Julius Ceasar (Broughton Re-recording)
    Ben-Hur (2 Disc Book version)
    Death Becomes Her (Silvestri)
    Chinatown (Goldsmith)
    The Russia House (Goldsmith)
    Gorky Park (Horner)
    The Cassandra Crossing (Goldsmith)
    The Great Escape (Bernstein - Ryko version)

    Also how many versions of El-Cid are there? I found a re-recording but I can't remember who did it. The cover was white with El-Cid in big letters.

    It has been quite awhile since I've seen these movies so I can't remember the music that much. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    NP: The Magnifecent Seven (Ryko Version)

    [Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 02-04-2001]

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    posted 02-04-2001 10:45 AM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    I personally don't care for Goldenthal much, but some folks do like his work. The rest are all pretty good. Poledouris' Jungle Book is excellent. The cue for Shere Khan's Attack is outstanding as are the last two cues. A very good score. Cassandra Crossing is excellent. Some great action cues and an offbeat jazz style chase cue for the helicopter sequence is incredible. Good score.
    Most of those listed are excellent. You can't lose on just about every one. All pretty good. John.

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    posted 02-04-2001 10:57 AM PT (US)     

     Al
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    Mark,

    Pick up the Goldsmith scores, my good man.

    Cassandra Crossing contains a lot of rough but rhythmic dissonant music but has a romantic Goldsmith main theme thrown into the mix. A dated performance of the love theme at the middle of the album oozes with a 70s sound, but it's fun and just plain groovy--a highlight.

    Chinatown is supposively a must have and a true accomplishment. I do own it, but I basically never listen to it.

    The Russia House is pretty much the repeat of 3 themes over and over, but it's a great listen. The last track is excellent and utilizes the saxophone, present and performed with skill throughout the score, very well. The love theme is great, but I actually prefer the concert version without the sax (not on the album).

    I think Goldenthal's "Sphere" is a great score, but it is not very well represented on the 30 minute album. Even with only one performance of the best theme, many of the other highlight action cues are present. Even if much of it sounds like "noise-ola" away from the film's visuals, I hear from Jeron that this album is now out-of-print. If you're a collector, you may want to pick this up.

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    posted 02-04-2001 12:12 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    Mark,


    if you do not pick up the Broughton re-recordings of Rozsa's Ivanhoe and Julius Caesar, you will be taunted endlessly for the rest of your life.

    Now, I don't want to taunt anyone, but I will if I have to.


    In addition, you will be severely flogged if you don't bother to pick up the 2CD Ben-Hur.
    This is simply a must for anyone who fancies themselves a score fan.

    Flogging facilities are located in Pennsylvania, in the greater Altoona area.


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    posted 02-04-2001 01:09 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    btw --

    http://www.shef.ac.uk/~cm1jwb/jcaesarcd.htm


    my review of Julius Caesar


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    posted 02-04-2001 01:11 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Mark, mom ORDERS you to get Quigley Down Under. It is one
    of my favorite western scores. First main theme is a definite homage
    to Elmer Bernstein’s style. Marston’s long rifle theme, especially used
    near the end, is one of the best western themes ever written.

    NP Guess I’ll play Quigley.

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    posted 02-04-2001 02:08 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    CHINATOWN is a phenomenal FILM score, but not necessarily the most rewarding album listen, depending on your tastes. I own it -- I must own ALL Goldsmith! -- but rarely listen to it. It's a spectacular piece of music, but just not the kind of thing I prefer to hear much of the time.

    THE RUSSIA HOUSE, on the other hand, repetitive as it is, is deeply engaging and arguably far more accessible. THE CASSANDRA CROSSING is enormous fun, and I recommend it highly, esp. if you're already fond of Goldsmith in 70s action mode.

    SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISCHER is one of James Horner's best 90s scores. GORKY PARK is a fun early Horner score, very similar to the previous 48 HRS. and subsequent RED HEAT, but worth having just for the love theme, and the action stuff is sparely written -- lots of synths -- but excellent.

    I saw part of THE GOOD SON, a movie I hated, on TV again the other week, and thought Bernstein's music was far better than I'd remembered. I wished I'd bought the album back when it was still easily accessible at used stores.

    DEATH BECOMES HER is an accomplished film score, but not one I care to own, although there's nothing wrong with the music as such.

    SPHERE -- I detested this movie, and I don't remember the music, although Goldenthal is usually reliable. One of those half-hour Varese jobbies, isn't it? John Williams, who had recently scored director Barry Levinson's SLEEPERS, was first attached to this project, but either scheduling problems happened, or Williams came to his senses and bailed (as he did on INCHON, for example).

    THE GREAT ESCAPE -- did you like CHICKEN RUN? Then you should like this!

    QUIGLEY DOWN UNDER -- Mom is correct, a wonderful Basil Poledouris Western score, lovely jaunty main theme.

    As for the others, I don't know the specific issues in question, so cannot comment -- except for Basil Poledouris' JUNGLE BOOK, which I never have managed to warm up to, though I'm a fan of his.


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    posted 02-04-2001 02:43 PM PT (US)     

     Daniel J
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    QUIGLEY! QUIGLEY! QUIGLEY!

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    posted 02-04-2001 05:42 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Sphere is excellent. I don't know how well the music is represented on the album, because I haven't seen the film, but it is very listenable for my tastes. Get it as long as you can still find it.

    NP: Henry V (Patrick Doyle)

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    posted 02-04-2001 05:54 PM PT (US)     

     lars b
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    The re-recording of EL CID is on the Koch label, conducted by James Sedares with the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra


    NP. 'Empire Strikes Back'

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    posted 02-05-2001 07:28 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    Must go buy Ivanhoe now. Now, do you hear?

    And Ben-Hur too.

    And Julius Caesar.

    Mmmmmmm.


    np Supergirl

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