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ManOfSorrows Oscar® Winner	Have any of you seen the latest trailer to Atlantis? Well, if you haven't, do it NOW! (http://www.movie-list.com/a/atlantisthelostempire.shtml) Original music by JNH like in the Dinosaur trailer, the music sounds very good, atleast to my ears The movie looks cool too, this one I must see on the big screen. Peace
posted 02-03-2001 06:34 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	It's going to be a very cool movie. I can't wait. --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor
posted 02-03-2001 10:00 PM PT (US)

Foobsie Oscar® Winner	Is it just me or am I the only one expecting a massive choral arrangement to accompany the mystery of Atlantis? NP: PLUNKETT & MACLEANE-Craig Armstrong **/***
posted 02-04-2001 03:24 AM PT (US)

ManOfSorrows Oscar® Winner	Isn't there som choral in the beginning of the trailer? It may be not be much, but there is some there. And the trailer features only a small part of the music, I'm sure there will be some massive choral work in the movie, I hope so atleast
posted 02-04-2001 06:09 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I ripped the theme from the trailer a few days ago. If any of you are interested in hearing it, click here. There's a chorus backing up the theme, but it's nothing incredibly massive. Great theme, nonetheless! I'm looking very forward to it. Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 02-04-2001]
posted 02-04-2001 09:23 AM PT (US)

ManOfSorrows Oscar® Winner	Thanks for the mp3 Jeron!
posted 02-04-2001 10:06 AM PT (US)

Foobsie Oscar® Winner	Yeah, but a movie like this one DESERVES a large and massive choral work!
posted 02-04-2001 01:55 PM PT (US)

Tim_P Oscar® Winner	Foobsie- In case you didn't know- James Newton Howard's middle name is "Massive-Choral-Work". (Newton is his professional middle name.) I wouldn't worry about not having enough choir in Atlantis- as just about every soundtrack JNH has done over the past few years features choir in some way and most of his soundtracks have huge, breathtaking choral moments. Listen to "The Bubble" on Waterworld. I have an idea that's exactly what parts of Atlantis will sound like. Tim
posted 02-04-2001 02:05 PM PT (US)

AaronR1074 Oscar® Winner	The last time I had high hopes for a descent animated movie by Disney...the following happened. The teaser was dramatic..flashing scenes of action and intruige, massive battles, and stunning realism. The result... A campy musical, a cheesy sidekick, and all of the typical Disney cliches. The movie? Mulan I won't be betrayed by Disney again. I'll wait until the full trailor comes out NP - The Beatles, Twickenham Sessions Disc One (of many): I Like Simple Tunes (Bootleg of the original Get Back sessions.) ***/*** Ain't newsgroups great?!
posted 02-04-2001 03:59 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	But Aaron, oh what a wonderful score we got out of the deal! And btw, I think Mulan is a pretty decent flick. Jeron
posted 02-04-2001 04:49 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by AaronR1074: [B]I won't be betrayed by Disney again./B] Disney didn't betray you...you betrayed yourself. Scott
posted 02-04-2001 06:21 PM PT (US)

Cenzo Oscar® Winner	People, people. This movie won't be at all like the Mulan situation (Mulan was pretty good by the way, but I understand what you mean). No. It will be exactly like the Dinosaur situation; cool trailer, cool score, nice looking visuals, and a bad, bad movie....Oh Disney, your stories and scripts blow so, so bad...why can't they be as good as your animation...oh well. it's true...cope with it. Cenzo
posted 02-06-2001 02:06 PM PT (US)

John Dunham Oscar® Winner	With Dinosaur, I was only expecting cool visuals and a cool score. I don't really care whether Atlantis is a good movie, as long as JNH gets to shine. Really, though, the plot (or lack thereof) in Dinosaur wasn't too bad. I've seen much, much worse. NP: Thunderheart, Horner ****
posted 02-06-2001 02:20 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Cenzo, I'm a bit offended by your attitude. First off, "Atlantis" is being written by Tab Murphy, not Walon Green (Dinosaur). Tab Murphy's writing credits consist of Oscar-nominated "Gorillas in the Mist," "Last of the Dogmen", Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and "Tarzan." He's currently composing several screenplays for Disney, Dreamworks, and Sony. Tab is probably one of the best up-and-coming writers in Hollywood - and if anything is a detriment to "Atlantis," it will be that Disney cut his original script of 200 pages down to 90 or so. Did I forget to mention that Tab is a good friend of mine? Do a little more research and check your facts first, man. Atlantis will be a good story, hands down. It's true... cope with it. Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 02-06-2001]
posted 02-06-2001 02:30 PM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	No offense Jeron but that seems to be a biased view. Just because he is your friend does not mean it is going to be a good film. In fact, I've already read one review that said the movie was only so/so. As for the trailer, it's OK nothing groundbreaking IMO. I'm in fact not even looking foward to this film honestly. The last Disney movie I was looking very forward to was Dinosaur, and boy was that a letdown. Mulan, however, was a great flick! I don't see how some people don't like it, it's definately one of the better Disney movies of the 90's! Goldsmith's score was also wonderful, and Murphy as the sidekick was hilarious (i usually hate him)! Anyway my 2 cents! NP: Apollo 13 (Horner) **/***
posted 02-06-2001 02:35 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Hasta: No offense Jeron but that seems to be a biased view. Just because he is your friend does not mean it is going to be a good film. Jason, I am a bit biased, but based on fact I can (and will) say that Tab's work is highly regarded, and he's in high demand. He's turning down projects. His work is good. Now, I didn't mean to say that Atlantis is a sure-shot film... I was moreso commenting on Cenzo's remarks about stories and scripts. If anything, Tab's ability to produce an intriguing script is far ahead many in the industry. That's my honest, objective opinion, not my bias. Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 02-06-2001]
posted 02-06-2001 02:51 PM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	Jeron, don't make me look stupid now! Originally you posted Atlantis will be a good film, hands down. Now you edited it so it says Atlantis will be a good story, hands down. Heh just so you know where I was coming from people and why I even bothered to comment, if you had said it will be a good story I would have commented differently. Ransom (Horner) */***
posted 02-06-2001 03:20 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Just clarifying my statement. After all, it is directed specifically toward Cenzo, not Hasta, and not Cenzo and Hasta! :P Also, how can you give Ransom even 3 stars? As functional as the score is in the film, it is ultimately unrewarding on the album (IMO). Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 02-06-2001]
posted 02-06-2001 03:24 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I feel the need to jump in here. Tab's work is great stuff. "Tarzan" is my favorite Disney film of all time, and when I heard that Tab was going "Atlantis" I was thrilled. His scripts have great depth to them. "Last of the Dogmen" was one of the best films I'd seen in a long time, not only in the writing but directing category as well. I think the sci-fi adventure film is on good hands. --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor NP: Hannibal on STC (Ford's Show)
posted 02-06-2001 05:00 PM PT (US)

Drixorial Oscar® Winner	Anyone want to see Atlantis before it's out in the theatres?!?! Well look now further! all you have to do is stroll into your local Blockbuster Video store and rent a little movie called 'Stargate' They're the same movie but you get this one at half the price and don't have to wait until June. It's a better movie too NP: Black Beauty -Danny Elfman
posted 02-07-2001 04:28 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Oh hahahaha, but I agree, when I saw the trailer on the Dinosaur DVD that was my first thought, the StarGate relationship. Also, Drix, where did you find Black Beauty? --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor NP: Hannibal on STC (****) [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 02-07-2001]
posted 02-07-2001 10:11 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Well, interestingly enough, Tab does have a working relationship with Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich. In fact, the "Stargate" set is where Tab and David Arnold met... then came along "Last of the Dogmen..."
posted 02-07-2001 10:27 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Oh I am so there for this movie, and the trailer was actually the first thing I chose to watch on the Dinosaur 2 disc DVD since I'd not downloaded it. JNH score, Gary Rydstrom sound mix, great cast of voices AND the movie is shot in scope? I have my seat reserved. Dan (UK)
posted 02-07-2001 11:49 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Danny, I hear that. Jer, I know that whole story --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor
posted 02-07-2001 12:28 PM PT (US)

Drixorial Oscar® Winner	I found it used at a Everyday Music store here in Portland. Only 4.99 to boot Got it ripped at 192 if you're intersted in some mp3s. NP: Chrono Cross -Yasunori Mitsuda
posted 02-07-2001 03:04 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Ah "Chrono Cross" its been ages since I last played that one, maybe I'll take a break from "Hannibal" on STC, sure, I'm down with MP3s. --Brian Writer & Film/Video Editor NP: Hannibal on STC (****)
posted 02-07-2001 03:18 PM PT (US)

Cenzo Oscar® Winner	Please everybody. I do not mean to offend anyone. What I mean is that I like Disney and they are the best animators around....However, Disney is notourious with stories and scripts. Most of their recent movies have a very repetitive and very unoriginal and very bad writing. They just reuse the same basic idea over and over again. It began with the Little Mermaid. Then once they realized that worked they continued making their movies always incorporating some key elements that would 'guarantee' success. For example: main hero/heroine has a problem, gets help by a crazy cartoony funny guy/thing, hero/heroine falls in love, five songs, two or which are serious, the others which may be fun, funny or lame, etc, etc. Disney doens't have any different kinds of movies anymore like Oliver and Company or the Rescuers or Great Mouse Detective or Dumbo or Pinocchio, now their movies all have the same basic elements. Because Disney is too much of a wuss to take any risks and try something fresh and new. Now, your right it was wrong of me to judge a movie before I've seen it (and believe me I will go see Atlantis) , but I won't be surprised if it turns out to be very unoriginal and VERY Disney. I'm crossing my fingers for the best though. ^_^ I hope very much so that you are right and that your friend did right a very good script, because then that means Disney might of smartened up after all these years. That would be great. And about Dinosaur's story, it wasn't all that bad, actually the story was kind of neat...the only problem is that that is the same basic story as the Land Before Time. Interesting how Disney's Dinosaur movie has an amazing similarity to another dinosaur movie. (in a really sarcastic tone) "uh, what a coincidence." ^_^ Oh and I'm sorry that I am writing kind of off topic. I do believe that the score will be just as good as Dinosaur's if not better. Once again, I did not mean and do not mean to offend. I'm sorry to everyone that I did. Thanks for letting me talk, Cenzo
posted 02-07-2001 05:42 PM PT (US)

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