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    Topic:   The Double Life: Miklos Rozsa

     joan hue
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    I just read the autobiography THE DOUBLE LIFE: THE
    AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF MIKLOS ROZSA. I mainly concentrated
    on reading about his Hollywood connections. I thought I’d share with
    interested members of this board some of the highlights from his life.

    He was asked to score The 49th Parallel, but had to refuse for another job.
    He was glad he didn’t do this movie because it marked the debut of Ralph Vaughn
    Williams’ first movie score.

    Rozsa had to do some additions and refinements for two scores, and he didn’t
    like stepping into the arena of other composers. He had to modify some of Walton’s
    score for Major Barbara, and he wrote the whole final scene to Beau
    Brummel, but demanded that he not be listed in the credits.

    Didn’t have as many hassles with directors as he is did with the heads
    of music departments that said he used too much dissonance. One record
    executive told him that he used too many themes in his scores, that in King
    of Kings he used 14 themes, and that Dr. Zhivago had only one theme and
    sold over a million records.

    He liked Herrmann and admired Herrmann’s tenacity and ability to not compromise
    his standards. Herrmann wanted to score Julius Caesar, but Rozsa got the job.
    Later, Herrmann played his ideas for Julius Caesar for Rozsa and was please
    when Rozsa praised his melodies.

    He was up for the job of Duel in the Sun, but Selznick hired 6 composers
    including Rozsa to write themes for two weeks and then Selznick would
    pick one. Rozsa refused this as he thought is was humiliating.


    He was nominated for Oscars for both Spellbound and The Lost Weekend,
    and he won for Spellbound; however, he felt his Lost Weekend score
    was the better of the two. His third Oscar for Ben Hur was the one
    he cherished the most.

    He divides his scores into certain arenas. First: Oriental or exotic sounds.
    The Four Feathers, Thief of Baghdad, Jungle Book, Sahara. Second:
    Psychological thrillers like Spellbound, Lost Weekend, Strange Love of
    Martha Ivers, The Red House. Third: Hard Hitting Action/film noirs like
    Brute Force, Desert Fury. Fourth: Epic/Historical/
    Biblical scores which began with Quo Vadis, and lead to King of Kings, Ben Hur,
    and El Cid.

    Hitchcock only met with him two times on Spellbound and didn’t call to
    congratulate him on the Oscar. He felt Hitchcock was pompous.

    He was invited by USC to teach their first class on film composition.
    He worked with hundreds of students, some who were very talented, but
    only one really made it big in the movie industry, Jerry Goldsmith.

    He felt El Cid was his last major film score and his last important film with the exception
    of Providence.

    He enjoyed working the Resnais, the director of Providence. “In my view the music should
    add a new dimension, should tell the audience something it can’t be told in any other way.
    And I was pleased to hear Resnais say that in the dubbing there would be no conflict
    between music and effect; either one or the other would be featured, not both
    simultaneously. I remembered the long heavy battle scenes in films like Ivanhoe and El
    Cid, the millions of notes I expended in composing music designed to carry the action
    forward and invest it with all the necessary colour, drama and excitement. In the dubbing
    the music would be all but annihilated by the tiring realism of effects.”
    (Ah, good point. I too find this frustrating when trying to hear a score in a movie.)

    The title of this book Double Life refers to Rozsa’s efforts to privately compose
    concertos and other concert works while balancing his love for composing
    film music. He didn’t regret composing for the vital world of cinema even though
    at times it was exasperating. He ends by saying that he is an, “unashamed champion of
    tonality.” Composers can still find new things to say within its framework. “I have never
    felt the need to move outside the orbit of the tonal system. Tonality means line; line means
    melody; melody means song, and song, and especially folksong is the essence of music.”

    It was an interesting book to read. Rozsa seemed to like people who were intelligent,
    cultured and always courteous or gentlemanly. It is how his book reflects his own
    image. I wish we had some new composers that critics would label with a,
    “Rozsaesque disposition for melody or a Rozsa predilection for themes.” I’ve loved his
    music. (O.K. Class dismissed. )

    [Message edited by joan hue on 01-24-2001]

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    posted 01-24-2001 08:20 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    All the variety of themes is one reason I really like him. Dr. Zhivago score is very poor overall. The one theme and that is it. Best, John.

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    posted 01-25-2001 05:23 AM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    I would like to have seen Rozsa score ZULU DAWN.

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    posted 01-25-2001 06:48 AM PT (US)     

     Gae
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    Thanks for that insight Joan. Rozsa was a master at beautiful melodies and emotionally stirring music. One of, if not "the" greatest composers for movies this century. His voice was unique and instantly recognisable.. a sound that he developed in his early career and maintained all his life, colourizing the orchestrations depending on the genres as you mentioned above..a true "auteur" of his own craft. He was also a great exponent of the "Theremin" in the 40's e.g. "Spellbound", "The Lost Weekend" etc. which inspired its use in many movies to follow e.g. 50's Sci-Fi like "The Thing", "The Day the Earth Stood still". I keep saying this but one of his greatest, most underrated later scores, in my opinion, was "The Eye of the Needle" from 1980. Even at the age of 73 he was still writing incredibly passionate and heart pounding music that would put to shame some of the mediocre attempts of some of his younger contempories and illustrate just what a master craftsman and deeply soulful man Dr. Rozsa was....that he could still express his humanity through his music was still evident! Anyway, I thought I'd just give my "tuppence worth of thoughts" on a true Legend in his own lifetime!! Gae NP Star Trek Generations

    Here's a list of my Rozsa collection...I really need to get more!!

    Spellbound (original mono recording)
    Spellbound Concerto
    The Lost Weekend (original mono recording)
    Ben Hur Vol I (tape)
    Ben Hur (different artwork)
    Ben Hur (extra music)
    The Classic film Scores of Miklos Rozsa (Gerhardt)..highlight is the wonderful "The Red House" suite
    The Immortal Film music of...
    Epic film scores of...
    Miklos Rozsa Movie themes
    Quo Vadis
    El Cid
    The Private Lives of Sherlock Holmes (Violin Concerto)
    The Golden Voyage of Sinbad
    Providence
    The Last Embrace/Lydia
    Time after Time
    Eye of the Needle

    [Message edited by Gae on 01-25-2001]

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    posted 01-25-2001 03:03 PM PT (US)     

     El Cid
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Gae:

    Here's a list of my Rozsa collection...I really need to get more!!

    Spellbound (original mono recording)
    Spellbound Concerto
    The Lost Weekend (original mono recording)
    Ben Hur Vol I (tape)
    Ben Hur (different artwork)
    Ben Hur (extra music)
    The Classic film Scores of Miklos Rozsa (Gerhardt)..highlight is the wonderful "The Red House" suite
    The Immortal Film music of...
    Epic film scores of...
    Miklos Rozsa Movie themes
    Quo Vadis
    El Cid
    The Private Lives of Sherlock Holmes (Violin Concerto)
    The Golden Voyage of Sinbad
    Providence
    The Last Embrace/Lydia
    Time after Time
    Eye of the Needle

    [Message edited by Gae on 01-25-2001]


    Get the Intrada recordings of Ivanhoe and Julius Ceaser. They are excellent.


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    posted 01-25-2001 05:11 PM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    I've ordered five Rozsa titles within the past two weeks:

    King's Thief
    Madame Bovary
    Plymouth Adventure
    Story of Three Loves (excellent!)
    Valley Of The Kings

    All are Tickertape/Tsunami releases. I've received Story of Three Loves and Valley Of The Kings so far and the sound quality is excellent.

    I met Rozsa in 1977 while a freshman in David Raksin's film music class at USC. He was on hand to attend a showing of Thief of Bagdad and discuss the score. Afterwards, he graciously consented to sign some of my albums. Alas, they were the first to go when I was forced to sell my soundtrack collection a few years later.

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