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    Topic:   Punk Rock Scores/Music

     Joey168943
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    Do you guys know of what movies have punk rock in them? Has a punker ever become a composer?

    Joey

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    posted 01-19-2001 03:32 PM PT (US)     

     Captain Howdy
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    Don't know about a punker becoming a composer, but I know of a punker becoming a filmscore lover: Me.

    A bit awkward for my friends when I went from listening to old school DC Hardcore to James Horner and Danny Elfman. They thought it was wierd at first, but gradually began to accept it as a sort of musical balance. Hehe.

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    posted 01-20-2001 12:40 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Interesting post. My brain literally has a hard time comprehending the possibility of a punker turning film composer. But stranger things HAVE happened.

    In terms of punk, and this is just my personal criticism and curiosity coming through: What IS IT that attracts punk fans to punk rock? I mean, seriously - I get a headache when exposed to this sort of "musical form," if you can call it that.

    What's up with that?

    Jeron

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    posted 01-20-2001 01:23 AM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Do you count Joe Strummer from The Clash? He did Grosse Pointe Blank. Was there an "e" on the end of "Blank"? I forget.

    Shaun

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    posted 01-20-2001 11:52 AM PT (US)     

     LRobHubbard
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    One of Eliot Goldenthal's first film jobs was for BLANK GENERATION (which took it's title from a song by seminal NYC punk scenester, Richard Hell)... if you count "punk" as an aesthetic & not a genre, then I think Goldenthal more than qualifies, judging from his work...

    Danny Elfman could also fit that description, again, if by 'punk', you mean the aesthetic definition and not hair color and/or piercings.

    Joe Strummer - did a wonderful score for Alex Cox's WALKER that was released by Virgin Records... Strummer also did music for PERMANENT VACATION, and several other films... speaking of Alex Cox, there's REPO MAN - incidental music by Tito Larrivita of the L.A. group The Plugz and The Cruzados.

    TRUE STORIES, directed by David Byrne - mainly known for the songs by the Talking Heads, but was also 'underscored' by a variety of artists such as Meredith Monk... SOUNDS OF TRUE STORIES was a companion album worth looking for (it's not as well known as the Heads album).

    The only other qualifiers would be compilations of songs by various artists: some of the best ones are THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION (the first one with X, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, etc.); REPO MAN; URGH! A MUSIC WAR (lp only, I think).

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    posted 01-20-2001 11:27 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Danny Elfman was most definitely NOT a punk rocker, although he was and is cool enough to have been one. (Or so says roomie, who knows from punk rockers -- hell, he was one himself.)

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    posted 01-21-2001 12:19 AM PT (US)     

     mlw
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    I dunno, Oingo Boingo kind of defaults to punk, in my black-tinged op.

    Should have known LRob would come up with those ones above. Sweet!

    What is it about non-punk music that gives me a headache and makes me want to smash things in their nauseating conformity to brain-deleting cow feed?

    Favorite punk soundtracks

    Repo Man-- and Pablo picasso was never called an ass hole!

    Natural Born Killers

    Joe Strummer's Sid and Nancy, Straight to Hell, Walker, and even his more placid stylings behalf Permanent Record and Grosse Point Blank

    Robocop - Duh Duh DUH, DUHH DUHH DUHHH- DUHH DUHH DUHH DUUHHHH-- sounds like punk to me

    Planet of the Apes, Total Recall-- there's a music war for you!

    Question, since I never saw it, did Cruising actually have songs by GERMS in it? The compilation album MIA cites Lion's Share and a couple of others as being specially written for Friedkin.

    John Lydon costarred with Harvey Keitel in Corrupt aka Cop Killer (Roberto Faenza, 1984), but the music was Morricone.

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    posted 01-22-2001 01:35 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    Best punk soundtrack....

    Hands down THE RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD.

    Classic stuff...

    Runner Up:

    THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2

    Sean

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    posted 01-22-2001 03:17 PM PT (US)     

     mlw
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    RODRIGO D: NO FUTURO

    Colombian punk, straight up hardcore and evil. I think the whole cast for this 1990 flic is dead by now. Mini epic about Medellin street punks is docu and Mad Max-like at the same time. Excellent film.

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    posted 01-22-2001 03:27 PM PT (US)     

     webjedi
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    Graeme Revell! Don't forget him! Granted I believe it was more Metal than Punk.

    Then you need to define Punk.. since David Byrne's Talking Heads was considered New Wave and not punk. For Punk, you should think more along the lines of The Ramones, The Cramps and The Sex Pistols. I heard Johnny Rotten wants to get into doing some film music... or at least on his short lived VH-1 series he mentioned similarly. And Elfman.. definitely not Punk... Mark Mothersbaugh from Devo would kind of count in this category! Booji-Boy lives!

    Good thread tho!

    David

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    posted 01-22-2001 03:28 PM PT (US)     

     webjedi
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    BTW, The album from TRUE STORIES you're looking for is "MUSIC FOR ACTIVITIES FREAKS"... it's a hard album to come by... I got mine signed by Byrne himself after a concert in Rochester, NY!

    What a guy... and tall too!

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    posted 01-22-2001 03:32 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    REPO MAN!!!!!! The one soundtrack roomie is always willing to play well beyond the point of distraction. That's quite true about Pablo Picasso.

    As far as CRUISING, I'm not sure whether Germs music appears in the film or not ... most of the score, what little there is, was synth noodling by Jack Nitzsche. Perhaps in one of those wacky barroom sequences, but can't say for sure.

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    posted 01-22-2001 04:11 PM PT (US)     

     mlw
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    Graeme Revell?
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    ?

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    posted 01-23-2001 10:30 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    something must have happened to him, oyabun.

    Morricone's spaghetti western and crime scores are as punk as it gets, filmmusic-wise.

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    posted 01-23-2001 02:34 PM PT (US)     

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    ML Ware - good to see you on the boards again. Have missed your SEEN columns.

    Graeme Revell was a member of SPK, so I guess he would fall under the umbrella. Probably Cliff Martinez as well, since he came out of SoCal hardcore bands.

    Most movies with punk tend to be documentaries, i.e. Penelope Spheriss' DECLINE series... there's also Julien Temple's Sex Pistols double shot THE GREAT ROCK & ROLL SWINDLE and THE FILTH AND THE FURY; D.O.A. which followed the Sex Pistols on their U.S.A. tour and also featured other U.K. artists (Generation X, X-Ray Spex, Sham 69, among others) along with the infamous 'Sid and Nancy Show' footage [Sid nodding off as Nancy whines]. Another great doc is X-THE UNHEARD MUSIC, which features everything you want to know about the group X.

    Narratives - Penelope Spheeris again leads the pack with SURBUBIA, DUDES and I'd even include THE BOYS NEXT DOOR (with a good script by Morgan & Wong of X-FILES/MILLENIUM) - There's also Lou Adler's LADIES & GENTLEMEN, THE FABULOUS STAINS with Paul Jones & Steve Cook [Sex Pistols] and Paul Simonson [The Clash] as "The Professionals"; RUDE BOY with The Clash (very slow, but the performance footage is good).

    You could triple or quadruple the list by counting underground films (Richard Kern/Beth B./Nick Zedd), but that's a whole other area.

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    posted 01-23-2001 04:40 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Cliff Martinez was a Red Hot Chili Pepper.

    Roomie, my local authority on punk (he is looming right behind me), says that the Peppers started out as a punk band, but incorporate significant aspects of funk. "They've done enough HEROIN to be punk," he says, but his standards for punk are pretty strict, and he doesn't consider them a punk band today.

    Now he just said that he thinks Akira Ifukube (the GODZILLA composer whom we both venerate) actually qualifies as an honorary punk rocker, although, and I quote directly, "he's more post-punk, more Joy Division than Sex Pistols." He also said I was right to mention Morricone. And as Ware-oyabun mentioned above, Goldsmith qualifies in his way: I'd mention 100 RIFLES.

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    posted 01-23-2001 04:49 PM PT (US)     

     LRobHubbard
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    H Rocco:

    Dead on about Morricone... and honorary "punks" in the soundtrack world (in my view) would be Herrmann, Goldsmith, Chris Young (for THE VAGRANT and INVADERS FROM MARS), Goldenthal, Nyman... I'm leaving out lots of people who've dabbled like J. Williams (IMAGES).

    It goes to what I said originally - that list looks pretty absurd if you count 'punk' as "loud, hard, fast RULES!!" and as music made by pierced, loud-mouthed yobs with strange hair and limited musical expression... granted that is one aspect, and probably the most widely seen.

    'Punk' as an asethetic allows for a much more wider range of artist and expression. And with the boundries between genres getting very blurry, it's going to be very pointless to attempt to pigeonhole people and music... more cause for celebration (although it makes for big headaches trying to describe things).


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