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Topic: I Can't Sleep (Argento/Goblin reunited)

OHMSS76

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Yes, that would be the way to go Pete, I know you'll love Profondo as much as I do

I just staked out my copy of Susperia here online, and will get it next week....only $27!?! Seems like everyone is short on dough these days

Thanks also for the bit about Inferno...sounds like they found every scrap and put it on there, which is great! The Tarantella sequence is a masterpiece, textbook scoring. Playing that macabre,joyous music against the 'cat/sewer' scene....and when the butcher runs over and joins in the hacking, the triumphant finish to the piece! It's pure genius! Why didn't Emerson do more film scores!! That whole scene really sticks with me...bizarre,yet beautiful

NP:220 Volt(Tangerine Dream)Grrrr...some of this sounds like bad Van Halen, but the 2nd half harks back to the TD I know and love

Seanposted 10-09-2001 10:52 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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quote:
Originally posted by OHMSS76:
Yes, that would be the way to go Pete, I know you'll love Profondo as much as I do

Well, I already love it in the Pan/Scan slightly cut version. I just daren't really think too much about what I'm missing out on with it...
posted 10-09-2001 11:10 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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The only edited versions I know of are the 98min. atrocity(totally unwatchable) and the full 125min. version(Bingo!)Forgot to mention that I picked up the Bird with the Crystal Plumage on DVD a few weeks ago, finally watched it this weekend. I had forgotten what a great film this is! Strong story, and while the payoff isn't as great as Profondo, the film has tons of suspense and style. No gore either really, and the scenes that were once edited(the 1st murder,the elevator murder)now seem very tame. If you haven't caught this one, I'd recommend it as the best of the early 'Animal' trilogy(Cat O' 9 Tails,Four Flies on Grey Velvet).
Cat just came out on DVD I see, and I guess there is a video interview w/Morricone on it! Yah! I've never seen, nor heard, an interview with him! Ill get that disc for that feature alone!
posted 10-09-2001 11:48 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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The version I've seen is the full-length version, but there are just a couple of trims, to the dogs & the lizard/needle bits.I agree with that about Bird, again I've only got a cut P/S version, but it's also my favourite of the animal films. The ending, yeah is not so great as some others (like Profondo). I think it's probably the most accessible of his films for people who aren't necessarily such big fans.
As for Cat, apparently that Anchor Bay DVD is really sweet. I really like some of the funky editing tricks in this one, such as when the journalist discovers the photographers corpse (at least I think that's who they are, but I've only seen the film once, it's joint top with Trauma for Argento films I haven't seen for ages & need to watch again. I did have a marathon horror movie session last week, fifteen straight hours, mostly Argento. The Black Cat, Stendhal, Phenomena, Tenebre, Profondo, Opera, Dressed to Kill, Suspiria, Inferno. Started at 1pm, finished 4 am. Quite tiring, but really fun. Does now mean that I've seen most of them farily recently, which is nice). I only have Cat in P/S, but at least is managed to get through uncut.

posted 10-09-2001 12:01 PM PT (US) 
Pete M

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quote:
Originally posted by OHMSS76:
Why didn't Emerson do more film scores!!Speaking of which, you may be interested to know that according to Intrada, the new Cinevox CD's of La Chiesa AND Murderock Uccide A Passo Di Danza are now available (and they have them in at $19.99)! Though, curiously, the official Cinevox website still lists them as "coming soon".

NP First Knight
posted 10-11-2001 11:18 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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quote:
Originally posted by Pete M:
...only seen the film once, it's joint top with Trauma for Argento films I haven't seen for ages & need to watch again. I did have a marathon horror movie session last week, fifteen straight hours, mostly Argento. The Black Cat, Stendhal, Phenomena, Tenebre, Profondo, Opera, Dressed to Kill, Suspiria, Inferno. Started at 1pm, finished 4 am. Quite tiring, but really fun. Does now mean that I've seen most of them farily recently, which is nice). I only have Cat in P/S, but at least is managed to get through uncut.
Sounds like a great marathon to have! We do that here sometimes also, like last night...watched Deep Rising,Screamtime,The Detective,Silent Running and my all time fave Dawn of the Dead...again...on Saturday eve/night.
Trauma...I wouldn't bother personally. It's another tired late effort from Argento, the whole thing felt very contrived to me, not to mention gore-free(hey, they hired Tom Savini! Why not use him!?!?). Black Cat...is that the Fulci film? Great Pino Donaggio score on that one! Fun movie also, but I need the ltbx version, since my full frame tape is all close ups of the eyes! Awful in that incarnation, glad that Anchor Bay picked up this title
Looking forward to seeing Bruiser soon, and I hear there is an audio commentary from Romero! Nice extra, in light of this not getting a theatrical release
NP: The Man Who Knew Too Little(Young)Groovy.....
Sean
posted 10-14-2001 07:36 PM PT (US) 
Pete M

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No, actually that was Black Cat, the Argento section of Two Evil Eyes. Like Trauma, it's not on of his best, but not entirely without interest. Plus, it was the only thing that would fit to make me able to see Dressed To Kill, which was on the telly.
Pleased to see that, according to Intrada, the new La Chiesa album includes both "Emerson cues performed by Emerson, Fabio Pignatelli cues performed by Goblin." And the album runs 51:06. Guess, I'll have to pick this one up soon too...
posted 10-15-2001 10:00 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Regarding the Opera theme - is the version on the DVD CD the same as the version on the Dario Argento Horror Movies CD? I've been considering buying this album, purely for the Opera track (the samples of the other tracks makes me want to not buy it though), but would it not be worth it if it's the same (or close enough) to the one on the DVD (if I actually manage to get a copy of the Spec Edition before it sells out, that is)? Not having the theme on CD is driving me mad (der).NP Opera theme (from Dark Dreams
posted 10-18-2001 12:00 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Im not sure if it's the same, but the Opera theme on the DVD CD is NOT what's heard in the film....there are two versions on the DVD CD, a re-recording, and the Daemonia version. I'm at work now, and will write more tonight, since I have to tell you how great the Susperia Ltd DVD is, and why you MUST get it!The only recording of the film vers. for the Opera theme is heard on the old Cinevox CD and LP. All others are re-do's I belive. I'll have to hear the above clips tonight also...
Either way, you have to get the Opera DVD! It's essential! I had to replace mine in the end...funny since it worked fine once, then afterwards, it doesn't even start

More to come....
posted 10-18-2001 12:41 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Ok...quickly, you must get a DVD player if only to have Susperia.
The film has never looked or sounded better, is framed correctly(previous releases have been too much or too little, or out of balance...this is right on), is struck from the original Technicolor 3 strip neg(one of the last processed in this glorious form,which is very sad....CGI will never replace this), and contains some cool extras.The 52min. documentary is worth seeing, and they talk to just about all involved....an older,somewhat sedate Jessica Harper,an animated Stefani Casina,Simonetti-Pignatelli-Morante, who talk a bit about the score and how certain sounds were done,Luciano Tovoli,Udo Kier,Daria Nicolodi and of course Argento, who claims to have been inspired by Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarves for this film! It's worth it..
The CD is just the Cinevox reissue, no extra cues aside from the 5min. Damonia re-mix of the theme, and again no track list or anything. My package came with lobby cards(!?!?!), notes and two inlay cards,reproducing the poster.
1ST class act, get it fast....I thought I would be too late, but the local Best Buy had a million copies(literally)for $27 each!!!
Yah!!!!
NP:Lost Highway
Sean
posted 10-18-2001 08:20 PM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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Just curious ... have you guys heard the Goblin rock CD, "IL FANTASTICO VIAGGIO DEL BAGAROZZO MARK"?
posted 10-18-2001 08:48 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Hey Stephen! Welcome!!!I haven't been able to get a copy of that, nor the Cherry Five album
Not for lack of trying, but they're hard to come by!
Tell us more

NP:The Stripper(Goldsmith)
Seanposted 10-19-2001 08:12 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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My copy of the Suspiria Ltd Edition arrived this morning.
Obviously I haven't watched it yet (I have a friend who has a DVD player in his computer, so I'll probably ask him if I can watch at least the documentary there. I may wait until I've got a least a semi-decent set up before I watch the film, though), but is it just me, or does the soundtrack sound better than the expanded Cinevox issue? Putting them on one after the other, the new version sounds louder & with a better depth & definition of sound. But it's really hard to tell since my cheapo CD player doesn't sound that great with anything. I think I'm going to have to order the Opera Ltd Edition DVD now (Amazon reckon it'll be rereleased on the 30th), even if I can't see if for a while. 
NP Antz
posted 10-19-2001 08:59 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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I'll have to compare them Pete, but I did notice a little more 'body' to the DVD version...good catch, Ill check them tonight! I was still reeling at the time I got this, since I also found the new Omen CD's, and those are pure heaven.....hehehehe
Ironically, I got a great cdr from a friend the day after with the full album from Demons, the Simonetti cues from Demons 2, and several score cues from Opera....incl. the original FVers. of the theme!!! Yah!!!
NP:Nick Quarry(Goldsmith)
Seanposted 10-19-2001 09:04 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Wow, cool! Sounds like a neat disc! I'm still waiting for my copies of the new Omen CDs (apparently they are on the way), since my order also included Comfort of Strangers, which took a while to get in. I'm assured it is on it's way now. I can't wait!!Incidentally, this just in: Sleepless will be released in the USA on DVD & video on December 18th!
NP nothing, Antz just finished, about to stick Aliens DE in.
posted 10-19-2001 09:34 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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The cool part was I didn't even ask for that disc! He just sent it
Sorry to brag, couldn't help it 
Your going to LOVE those Omen discs, I've been playing them non stop, which is a bit worriesome....is it healthy to listen to these so much? Despite the gripes about missing cues, they are wonderful....and listen ALL the way through Final Conflict, since it has a hidden bit, like other Varese Deluxe Cd's

....and Comfort of Strangers! Whoa! You have great taste! I fell in total love with this score when I saw the film in '91....agonized for an album, taped the score off the VHS, and finally found the CAM cd years later. It is a great album, woefully underrated score, although I may be a bit biased since I love the film and score so much. I wish Badalamenti would do more work like this, or similar to Twin Peaks....any thoughts on Mulholland Dr? This opens here this weekend, and I hear the album is very long and moody
Sounds good to me!NP:Portishead
Seanposted 10-19-2001 09:40 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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I heard a bit of Comfort of Strangers during the Masterclass at the Edinburgh Film Festival, & knew immediately I had to get the album if there was one. I've still only heard the one cue from it though, & hadn't even heard of the film beforehand, & haven't been able to track it down since. I'm really pleased to have managed to find the CD, though. With that, the two Omens & Joy Ride, it should be a pretty neat parcel to get through the post.
As for Mulholland Drive, I've only seen the cameo Badalamenti makes (which I saw at the masterclass), and haven't heard nay of the score. The film has yet to show up in UK.
I'm quite intrigued by the album, but will probably wait until I see the film (which is definitely something I intend to do).NP Aliens DE (just got to the Combat Drop. So much better than that drum beat in the film.
)posted 10-19-2001 09:47 AM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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I got IL FANTASTICO... from Footlight a while ago - it's a Jap import. I've always loved the original 1978 LP. Groovy 70s rock, if you're into that. There are a couple of standout instrumental tracks, the rest are songs, with Italian vocals. I haven't heard a lot of Goblin's film scores - Tenebrae is the only one I ever owned - so I can't say if this album would be a delight or a disappointment. For me it's a delight ... but hey, taste is a funny thing
The instrumental tracks are my favourite, and closest to what they do in their scores. If either of you can download mp3s I can arrange for you to hear some tracks.A Goblin anecdote: a friend of mine used to work in a pub. It was a bit rowdy towards closing time (you know how us beer-swilling Brits get). My friend had the unenviable task of persuading the usual handful of stubborn revellers that it was, in fact, time for them to go home. They always gave him an earload of grief, and so, tired of diplomacy, he hit on the perfect way to get them out. At closing time he would just put the Suspiria CD on the hi-fi. He said he never saw a pub empty so fast!
posted 10-19-2001 09:53 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Great story about the pub Stephen! You guys are something over there! Of course, if they put on Susperia in a pub with me around, I'd nestle in further....probably never leave! In one of these posts here, Pete tells of a pub in Edinburgh(right?) that would play Doyle's The Creation from Frankenstein nightly, just for snicks
I'd probably love those albums you mention, since I like prog and classic rock VERY much, along with my John,Jerry and Benny

I got four albums(on tape)of Michael Kamen's NY Rock and Roll Ensemble this week also, and have been enjoying those immensely(Mark Snow was in the band also). Along with a tape of Silent Running, it's been a diverse week, musically at least!posted 10-19-2001 10:14 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Wow, that is indeed a great story, Steve. Yup, there is a pub in Edinburgh that plays The Creation every night (at least they used to, I haven't been for a while since my so-called "mates" complain that it's too exensive
), though although it's only about 2 minutes, they don't even play it all the way through, which is quite annoying.
My first post about that pub is here.
Sounds like quite a cool album, I also quite like prog rock & the like, although sadly I can't download mp3s. Although, did I imagine it, or did you not say you had a copy of Phenomena in your CD list?NP Aliens DE
posted 10-19-2001 10:27 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Woo haa!!!We finally made 100 posts!
Yah!!!
Sure took long enough

So this isn't a total waste, I like the Cinevox Phenomena, but I miss some of the songs on my old Enigma tape, Creepers....things like Valley,Flash of the Blade, the songs by Andi Sex Gang, Simon Boswell's 'The Maggots'.
As good as the Simonetti/Pignatelli score is, that album is really repetatitive. To contradict that though, it can be a great hypnotic listen....
posted 10-19-2001 10:37 AM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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Yeah, Pete, I just realised I had PHENOMENA after I posted. D'oh! How could I forget that? I love the track "Jennifer's Friend" ... if I'm not mistaken doesn't this accompany a sequence involving a heroic fly or something? I was always tickled by the idea of this beautiful cue following a little fly around.Come to think of it, the "IL FANTASTICO..." CD sounds very much like Phenomena in its style.
posted 10-19-2001 11:17 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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I think that Jennifer's Friend went unused in the final film....sorry to barge in here on this
Also, Pignatelli's end title 'Jennifer' went unused also IIRC. I just got this DVD a month ago, and have already forgotten!

NP
onnie Brasco - Song Album
Seanposted 10-19-2001 11:27 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Have to give my wife props tonight....during our weekend exscursion to the local record/dvd stores, she found a copy of one of the great 'fantasma/gialli', sealed in ltd. ed. tin for $15...Fulci's THE BEYOND!!! What a deal! She made my night
Again, great extras, lobby cards, huge booklet, film looks and sounds magnificent, Frizzi's score is always nice to hear, and there are decent easter eggs hidden away. I'm sure this is long sold out, which made this catch all the more sweeter. I hate to admit it, but I had gotten used to the US vers. 7 Doors of Death, with a kinda cool 80's synth score. I had watched that one so much, hearing Frizzi's score was a bit jarring in parts, but oh well

NP:Aliens-Deluxe(Horner)Since you mentioned it, I ended up playing this as well, so thanks Pete! Those percussion only cues are quite nice, good addition, but I hate how the album ends on such a shock now....that's my only complaint!
Sean
posted 10-20-2001 12:44 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Wow, what a catch! I'm not that familiar with the film (I really need to watch it again), but unfortunately I've only got the BBFC-mutilated version, which I think is about 6 minutes missing.
I think it does only have the Frizzi score, though.
The Phenomena soundtrack is pretty good, although it's a bit of a shame that they couldn't have stuck The Valley & The Valley Bolero on it too. I have a feeling that 'Jennifer' may have appeared in the film somewhere (definitely not the end title, though), but I really can't remember if it did. I watched it only a week or two ago, & I can't remember either. Damnit!
Oh, & I was also wondering if you've been able to work out a tracklisting for that Opera CD at all?NP Stargate
posted 10-22-2001 01:22 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Okay, apparently this is the tracklist for the first seven tracks of the Opera LE CD. If you can add/corrrect any track titles to this, that'd be cool. My copy should be arriving within the next week or so.
1. OPERA
2. CROWS
3. IMPENDING DANGER (repeated as track 10 on the cd)
4. CONFUSION
5. 'STEEL GRAVE' by Steel Grave
6. COSMO
7. 'KNIGHTS OF THE NIGHT' by Steel Grave.NP Candyman
posted 10-31-2001 01:40 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Happy Halloween Pete!!!I forgot to come back and post a reply to the last one, but will do so a bit later...thanks for the 1st few cues on that Opera CD, I haven't had a chance to review it more yet, and I'm still waiting for the replacement DVD

Sean
posted 10-31-2001 08:34 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Still waiting for the replacement? It shouldn't be too much longer, since they new versions are out, & I know a lot of people have had their replacements already. My copy of the updated version is apparently already on its way, which is nice.
NP Batman 4Ever.
posted 11-02-2001 01:43 AM PT (US) 
Al

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Got my replacement a few days ago.Good shtuff!
posted 11-02-2001 01:23 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Got an email today that AB shipped mine on 11/5....which is great, since I'm dying to see this film again!!! Why, oh why did the disc work one time? I managed to watch the documentary, and after that it didn't run at all....anyway, spotted this bit of good news at Intrada today:
GOBLIN
Patrick Cinevox 330 (Italy) $19.99An expanded reissue? I've always liked this score, from the use of dental drill in the titles, the Phillip Glass-ian Metamorphosis cue(I think that is the title), a lovely bit for harpsichord and guitar, and the inclusion of the great single 'Yell'. Any thoughts? Love it, or hate it?
Sean
posted 11-07-2001 02:20 PM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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I finally watched the Opera DVD again, and was surprised to find it the best photographed film in Argento's oeuvre, and one of his least graphic. I was suprised that he shied away from some of the more gruesome things he could have accomplished...
not a bad thing, just unlike his MO.anyhow, I'm not sure about the track list for the Opera CD that comes with the ltd. ed....... almost NONE of that music has anything to do with the film, and I can't even find a place in the film for it anywhere! I think I heard one cue from the album(aside from the theme) that I didn't catch before, but otherwise this may be a lost cause.....
Sean
PS.....nice touch by AB to include the DVD for Moonlighting(Pilot Episode)! Kudos, and this sure stopped my complaints for taking so long

posted 11-12-2001 04:12 PM PT (US) 
Pete M

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I'v never heard Patrick - is it good? I believe that new album is an expanded version, though I could be mistaken.Anyway, I got my copy of the Opera DVD last week, & I see what you mean about the CD! Ah, well. Still can't see it, though. Hoever, I think I may be going to buy meself a DVD player within the next couple of days, so hopefully it shouldn't be too long before I can watch both that & Opera!

NP Tenebre
posted 11-15-2001 01:49 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Wohooo!!!! Bought meself an DVD player. I haven't yet had the chance to watch Suspiria or Opera, though I have had a look through the extra materials. It does look very impressive. However, I have bought in the Italian DVD of Nonhosonno! I watched it last night. And it's pretty good. I'd like to see it again before giving a final verdict, but after one viewing I was fairly impressed. It's not in the same league as Rosso or Tenebre, but it's better than Trauma or Phantom. I'd say it's probably more on a level with the Animal trilogy. It's really quite vicious in places, whith quite strong gore. The set peices are perhaps not quite as intricately done as some of his earlier work, but the pounding Goblin score, & accelerated point of view shots are fantastic. Max von Sydow is excellent too. There are also a couple of pretty tense/scary moments. The best shot is a carpet sequence reminiscent of Tenebre. In fact, there's loads of references to his earlier films, most notably Profondo & Tenebre. Provided you're not expecting a Rosso/Tenebre -esque masterpiece, I reckon you'll enjoy it plenty. It sure ain't perfect, but it ain't terrible either.NP Dressed to Kill
posted 11-28-2001 02:02 AM PT (US) 
Al

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I'm going to pick up the US release of Nonhosonno when it comes out. I'm not expecting much, but I'm at least hoping for something better than Stendhal Syndrome.Thanks for the review, Pete.
posted 11-28-2001 09:41 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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At last! The tracklist for the Opera LE CD is complete:
quote:
01. OPERA (from the CD "Simonetti Horror Project")
This is not the original track from the Simonetti soundtrack.02. CROWS (Original Simonetti soundtrack version)
On the original LP OPERA and CROWS were crossfaded together.03. IMPENDING DANGER (Original Simonetti soundtrack version)
04. CONFUSION (Simonetti soundtrack version, but different mix)
e. g. some reverb at the beginning.05. STEEL GRAVE (by Steel Grave)
06. COSMO (Simonetti soundtrack version, but different mix)
Beefed up with a rather non fitting melody line.07. KNIGHTS OF THE NIGHT (by Steel Grave)
08. CRAWS (from the CD "Simonetti Horror Project")
it really is called Craws on the CD cover!09. DAYS OF CONFUSION (from the CD "Simonetti Horror Project - Days Of Confusion")
10. IMPENDING DANGER (Original Simonetti soundtrack version)
I have yet to hear any difference to track 0311. OPERA (by DAEMONIA)
12. ALBINONI IN ROCK (from the CD "Simonetti Horror Project - Days Of Confusion")
13. I'LL TAKE THE NIGHT (from the CD "Simonetti Horror Project - Days Of Confusion")
from Simonetti's "Versace Murder" soundtrack, but SHP version.14. TO FEDERICA (from the CD "Simonetti Horror Project - Days Of Confusion")
subtitled "Concerto For Piano And Orchestra"NP The Shadow
posted 12-03-2001 02:04 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Holy Katz Pete!!!Great job, I never would have been able to do that, since I don't have the various Simonetti projects, Argento Vivo,etc,etc discs these apparently came from. Still have to admit it's not that great a disc, and it is a bit of an insult to tack the OPERA name onto it, but there are some ok cues, and at least we know what we're listening to now!
Many thanks, your a gent!
Seanposted 12-03-2001 09:41 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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Well, it wasn't actually me who worked all that out, but some of the guys on the message boards at Dark Dreams. Thought I ought to pass it on. I still haven't found time to watch Opera & Suspiria yet (too much time working, or pesky flatmates hogging the TV!), but I'm really looking forward to seeing the whole thing. The UK rental VHS release I have currently is very heavily cut, & not just to violence. For example, the ending cuts off just after Santini is dragged away (no freeing lizards), & there's no scene in the small girls' appartment. Ooooh, the excitement, I can hardly contain myself.
I'm not going to be able to watch it tonight, either since I'm off to see Nightmare B4 Xmas on the big screen. Should be pretty fun.NP Logans Run
posted 12-04-2001 01:22 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Pete, your going to love NMBXmas on the big screen! I saw it a few times in '93, since I worked at a theater that year
Opera.....your going to love it, although I have to admit that the full frame seemed to work ok for me(usually I DETEST pan and scan) on this picture for some strange reason. The 'lizard' epilogue still is a bit at odds with the rest of the picture, and when I ran this for my wife the first time(I've been playing all the Argento pics for her) she liked it, but she hated the ending bit....I don't mind though, since I love Simonetti's OPERA theme
And why would they cut the scene in the girls' apartment? Hmmmm....no gore there!And you might like Patrick, by the way...it's very 'synthy' like Tangerine Dream stuff, and probably is closest to their score to Buio Omega if you want a comparison. Some great cues on there if you ask me

Also, check out Notturno...there are some awful,annoying drone cues, but the majority is a fun,relaxed album with bass and saxophone solos, and a fun title theme that takes off on 007 via Tenebrae
Cheers!
Seanposted 12-04-2001 09:21 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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quote:
Originally posted by OHMSS76:
Pete, your going to love NMBXmas on the big screen! I saw it a few times in '93, since I worked at a theater that year
Doh! Worked a bit late, missed the bus, & so missed NB4C! Quite annoyed. Although to be fair, it was a 16mm Pan/Scan print with terrible sound, so it wasn't too bad. I have seen it on the big screen before too, which lessened the blow, & in decent quality. That was indeed, pretty damn good! Guess I'll have to purchase the SE DVD to make up for missing it. I need those two shorts on there too.
Unfortunately, the TV was also in use, so I still didn't get to see one of the new DVD's. Double-damn it! I really want ot pick up the other Argento's on DVD, but since I have reasonable VHS copies of them, I'll perhaps put of them off for a little bit in order to get some Mario Bavas that I don't have. I just ordered Black Sunday, & am severely tempted by Black Sabbath & the box set. If only I had more money!
quote:
Opera.....your going to love it, although I have to admit that the full frame seemed to work ok for me(usually I DETEST pan and scan) on this picture for some strange reason.
Actually, that's quite true. I was really surprised to learn that it was 2.35:1, since I'd not really noticed very much obvious missing from the edges. Not like Profondo Rosso, then, where you suddenly find yourself watching a conversation between two people, both of whom have dropped off the opposite edges of the picture!
quote:
The 'lizard' epilogue still is a bit at odds with the rest of the picture, and when I ran this for my wife the first time(I've been playing all the Argento pics for her) she liked it, but she hated the ending bit....I don't mind though, since I love Simonetti's OPERA theme. And why would they cut the scene in the girls' apartment? Hmmmm....no gore there!
I really like the ending, actually. It's completely doolally, but I think it works in a really crazy kind of way. And, yes, there's the music.
As for that & other missing scenes, I think the distributers re-cut it before submission to the BBFC. Quite why I really don't know, but there was plenty that the BBFC did cut. It should be pretty instructive to be able to see the full thing properly, particularly since it contains one of my favorite scenes ever (from the eye drops right through to escaping in the vents). I'd always thought that going from hiding in the girls' appartment to suddenly out on the streets was a bit of strange cut, so I'm not at all surprised to learn that there was more there missing. quote:
Notturno... a fun title theme that takes off on 007 via Tenebrae
WOAAAAAH!!!!! How amazing does that sound? Yet more stuff I'm going to have to buy.
Damn it, but in a good kind of way! 
NP not a thing
posted 12-05-2001 08:45 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

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Sorry you missed that NB4C, but it sounds like it wasn't a print worth seeing.....oh well! The two shorts you refer to....is that Vincent and Frankenweenie? I have a feeling there was something else on there....Vincent is awesome, you have to see that one! I taped the movie and all the extras off of the deluxe laserdisc from a friend years ago, and haven't watched it for awhile.It is funny that Opera really isn't missing that much picture information, not like Profondo Rosso as you said....I have seen the full frame version of the 126 min. cut, and it's REALLY bad....the new DVD is a miracle
Opera may have been zoomboxed....meaning it was shot at a standard 1.85:1 and then covered up by a 2.35:1 matte. Could be?I do like the ending too though, it's a nice sunny respite from the madness before, but if I recall from the documentary, everything after the fire was added later, per the studio. I sometimes wish he would have ended it at the fire in the opera house, with Betty still trapped inside....would have made a nice reverse hommage to the finale of Susperia. I was also surprised that the DVD is exactly the same as the tape we've had in the States for years....nothing new was added to the various murders.
Now, for Notturno. It's very nice....runs 53mins. adding about 20mins. to the old CD. The opening theme takes off on that 007 bassline, and has a great Italian rock sound, but it's not as hard as anything from Zombie. Great guitar work from Morante. The next cut, Bass Theme was on the first DRG compilation CD, and is a very nice showcase for Pignatelli's fine electric bass work. I don't have the CD in front of me, and I'm going by memory, but if I recall the next few tracks are the lengthy laid-back parts of the album....good wind synth, sax and guitar playing, complete with sound efx of the beach unobtrusively in the background even! The only one that I skip is a 7min. drone piece that really goes absolutely nowhere. The added cues either reprise or expand on everything that came before....nice to have the addition, but no exciting new finds really.
Gotta run, take care

Seanposted 12-05-2001 09:31 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
