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John Dunham

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You Filmtracks visitors may have already seen this post, but...
Anybody have opinions on the following T. Jones scores?Arachnaphobia
Desperate Measures
Cliffhanger
Hideaway
Excalibur
In The Name Of The Father
Notting HillThanks.
NP: Big Wednesday, Basil Poledouris (Mid quality sound on this soundtrack library boot... why don't they turn out quality stuff?)
posted 01-18-2001 04:28 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Re: NP because they're losers, John.
posted 01-18-2001 04:29 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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Arachnaphobia
A good main theme, but nothing outstanding hear, theres some good music thats not on the CD thats in the film. Which BTW contains lots of songs and dialog. Seek expanded Austrailian release or have someone to mix a good suite for you.Desperate Measures
Some people like this. I think its boring. A non thematic suspense under score. (See movie first.)
Cliffhanger
I like this one although I don't listen to it often, great themes and some pretty good action music that sounds suspiciously like Alan Silvestri, but his music is great so I'm not complaining!Hideaway
An interesting score for electronics choir guitars and orchestra ruined by heavy metal songs. The score Only 19 min of score here. (see Napster)Excalibur
Never liked this one that much, its really boring. Mostly traditional dance music of the mid evil times, and some underscore. Also features lots of Richard Wagner pieces.
(seek Merlin)In The Name Of The Father
Never heard this one.Notting Hill
Nice romantic score for strings and acoustic guitar..piano. Notthe typical thing we get from Jones. Too bad the CD only has 2 score tracks! (See Napster, Seek "For Roseanna")Thanks.
No problem.
NP: Big Wednesday, Basil Poledouris (Mid quality sound on this soundtrack library boot... why don't they turn out quality stuff?)[/B][/QUOTE]posted 01-18-2001 06:48 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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I like Notting Hill. Romantic cues are lovely. I'd also like to plug The Mighty. Track 9 with the lady soloist is so sad and lovely, it is almost difficult to listen to.
I recently rented the movie Loch Ness and adored his score. I don't think this has been released as a CD. Too bad. Some of the music is stunning.NP Hoffa
posted 01-18-2001 09:11 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Joan, sorry to correct you (I hate doing that, 'cause you're MOM!), but... the solo in "The Mighty" is a boy's voice, not a woman's.John, (geee... Joan / John... be sure to read your names right, I almost confused myself there)... Anyway - John - about your TJ inquiries (on the scores I have heard):
Desperate Measures - I really, REALLY like this score. At times, it is very subdued (good stuff, too!), and at others - it's thrilling and dramatic. The themes are great, and as with "The Mighty," Mr. Jones includes a jazzed up, energetic end credits that are quite SPECTACULAR! The end credits alone is worth the price of the cd. A Trevor Jones must-have. Bar none.
Cliffhanger - I don't see where Tim gets off saying some of the music sound "Silvestri-ish." In the main title, Jones makes a very Horner/Rocketeeresque reference, but all-in-all it's a very fun (if not short) few notes (the reference, that is... not the theme). The theme is very majestic, very flighty, very "Hollywood." As for the rest, it's good - but unmemorable. For the Trevor Jones completist (or enthusiast) only.
Excalibur - I concur with Tim on this one. While the score may work brilliantly in the film - it's not a very active listen on cd. I've listened to the entire thing, but there in one sitting. The music feels very "early" in terms of Trevor Jones' style. It doesn't appeal to me. As Tim might say (but didn't), "Seek 'The Dark Crystal.'"
Notting Hill - Charming score. And yep, only 2 cues available on the album. They're good, but don't go wasting your money. Napster time! I will go on the record by stating that I do own the cd, though I obtained it at no cost of my own.
John, hope this helps! I would go recommending all the other Trevor Jones scores you didn't list, but I figure you've asked about those specific scores for a specific reason. I don't wanna go recommending something you already have.
Trevor Jones is a great composer - and one of my very favorites. He's tops! But he's not for everyone.
Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 01-18-2001]
posted 01-18-2001 10:40 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:[b]Cliffhanger - I don't see where Tim gets off saying some of the music sound "Silvestri-ish." In the main title, Jones makes a very Horner/Rocketeeresque reference, but all-in-all it's a very fun (if not short) few notes (the reference, that is... not the theme). The theme is very majestic, very flighty, very "Hollywood." As for the rest, it's good - but unmemorable. For the Trevor Jones completist (or enthusiast) only.
[Message edited by Jeron on 01-18-2001][/B]
Yes there are parts that sound exactly like Predator. But thats OK.
posted 01-18-2001 11:32 PM PT (US) 
John Dunham

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
John, hope this helps! I would go recommending all the other Trevor Jones scores you didn't list, but I figure you've asked about those specific scores for a specific reason. I don't wanna go recommending something you already have.
Trevor Jones is a great composer - and one of my very favorites. He's tops! But he's not for everyone. JeronWell, I've already got The Mighty, Dark City, Merlin, Thirteen Days, G.I. Jane, Last Of The Mohicans, and just recently Cleopatra. I love them all, and I figured I'd look into some other Jones stuff. The ones I listed were just a few I picked that I didn't have, but that sounded interesting.
So, that's the reasoning behind the list. If there are any others I don't have that you think are essential, please go ahead and recommend them!And thanks to everyone for your responses!
John
posted 01-19-2001 03:50 AM PT (US) 
SBD
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I think that "You Have the Power" from Dark City is one of the best cues Jones has ever written.
posted 01-19-2001 09:41 AM PT (US) 
CF8

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Hideaway
An interesting score for electronics choir guitars and orchestra ruined by heavy metal songs. The score Only 19 min of score here. (see Napster)There is also a complete 2CD version out there!
posted 01-19-2001 10:46 AM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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Beyond the usual, more "expected" Jones scores (most of which have been mentioned already) I recommend his scores for RUNAWAY TRAIN, SEA OF LOVE, RICHARD III, and of course his song arrangements in MONTY PYTHON'S LIFE OF BRIAN.
Dan
posted 01-19-2001 11:05 AM PT (US) 
Quill
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How about those main themes to Last of the Mohicans and The Dark Crystal...the best. He scored again with Thirteen Days...I don't think Mr. Jones gets enough credit around here.
posted 01-19-2001 02:10 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I think nobody's mentioned KISS OF DEATH, one of his more interesting recent scores. CLIFFHANGER, to me, was just rewarmed LAST OF THE MOHICANS. ARACHNOPHOBIA has some good stuff in it, but I'm saddled with the dialogue-heavy American issue, and don't like the score enough to replace it with the European.I have the boot of EXCALIBUR, and think director John Boorman was wise to replace some of Jones' material with the Wagner stuff, which is frankly far more evocative than the heroic material Jones invented. His eerie synth/vocal effects are the best part of what remains of his score in the film.
posted 01-19-2001 03:37 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Arachnophobia has some decent music and also a passage near the end that sounds a lot like Poltergeist.Mississippi Burning has a few good cues also.
The Cleopatra TV score wasn't too bad.
Last of Mohecans and Cliffhanger have very similar themes. I like a few of the action cues in Cliffhanger though. The helicopter fight cue is good. The movie is rotten though.
The Sender has some good music.
Several of his synthesizer scores are so-so.
Dark Crystal is pretty good overall though. John.
posted 01-19-2001 03:44 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Cliffhanger definately has a Silvestri sound. Some of the stuff reminds me of The Abyss.Shaun
posted 01-19-2001 03:58 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Rocco, thanks for keeping me from thinking I am getting old. In the old school, the critics raged on about Cliffhanger being nothing but an outtake from Mohicans, just not as powerful!
posted 01-19-2001 04:01 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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I don't understand, Cliffhanger doesn't sound like last of the Mohicans to me.
Cliffhanger is lot more ecxiting.
posted 01-19-2001 04:16 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Old K, it's vaguely dismaying to realize that even at 32, I AM part of "the old school." I've been writing about soundtracks literally half my life ...... of course there's the REAL old school, e.g. Tony Thomas, Irwin Bazelon, John Caps, Luc Van de Ven, Randall D. Larson ... my figurative mentors (and I even know the latter two, both decent fellows. I even have a SIGNED copy of Mr. Larson's "Musique Fantastique"
)posted 01-19-2001 04:25 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Tim T, Cliffhanger was evidently temptracked with Last of M and it sounds like it. The main themes in both films are very similar. I also like some of the action music in Cliffhanger as I mentioned above, but they are very similar. John.
posted 01-20-2001 08:19 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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Oh you're only refering the main theme? I'm was thinking about the whol thing!
The action and other motifs in Clifhager are from Silvestri scores,
Last ofthe Mohican does really have any action, just dramatic parts. very different from Cliffhanger.
posted 01-20-2001 10:42 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
