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    Topic:   Best Animated Scores

     Camillu
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    Here's my list, in no particular order, though there are some others I haven't listened to yet:

    The Prince of Egypt
    Dinosaur
    Land Before Time
    Lion King
    Mulan
    Watership Down
    Secret of NIMH
    Beauty and the Beast
    Princess Mononoke
    Rescuers Down Under

    I have a feeling I'm forgetting some....

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    posted 01-10-2001 10:34 AM PT (US)     

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    The Black Cauldron
    The Adventures of the Great Mouse Detective

    Add to that many, MANY Disney musicals. Too many to list.

    In addition to Princess Mononoke, I enjoy the wonderful score to "Tenchi Forever."

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    posted 01-10-2001 10:55 AM PT (US)     

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    Don't forget about the Batman scores!! The tv scores are amazing, but unreleased sadly. Walker' score to mask of the Phantasm, McCuistion's score to Subero and Karter's score to Return of the Joker are all very good as well!

    Bruce Broughton's Tiny Toons scores are fun as well

    BobaMike

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    posted 01-10-2001 11:29 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Disney's Robin Hood! How much longer do I have to wait for a score release?

    Chicken Run is a fantastic score, too.

    NP: Born on the Fourth of July (Song part)

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    posted 01-10-2001 11:38 AM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    Titan A.E.
    The Iron Giant...fantastic movie, effective score.

    And of course...Transformers The Movie...hee...hee

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    posted 01-10-2001 11:42 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN????

    Iron Giant (the reason I thought of this thread)
    Antz
    Chicken Run

    Now I'm off to whip myself....

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    posted 01-10-2001 01:52 PM PT (US)     

     John Dunham
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    ...and NOBODY mentions The Road To El Dorado. WHY NOT???

    I like Laputa, too.

    NP: The Red Sea, Brendan Anderson ****

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    posted 01-10-2001 02:55 PM PT (US)     

     Jim Ware
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    Transformers : The Movie. In a cheesy, eighties sort of way...


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    posted 01-10-2001 03:39 PM PT (US)     

     majestyx
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    Heavy Metal (Bernstein)
    Heavy Metal 2000 (Talgorn)
    Fire and Ice (Kraft)
    Quest for Camelot (Doyle)

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    posted 01-10-2001 06:43 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    The original Ralph Bakshi film is somewhat misbegotten (sorry Marian), but LORD OF THE RINGS may well be the finest thing Leonard Rosenman has ever done.

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    posted 01-10-2001 07:17 PM PT (US)     

     Kross
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    The score to Grave of the Fireflies tops all of the films noted above. The score to this amazingly sad and powerful anti-war film, which happens to be the best in my opinion...even better than SPR, TRL, and or Schindler's List combined with a side of Das Boot, in power and simplicity. Hence why the matching score works so well. The score to Grave of the Fireflies is one of the best scores in or out of the animated genere.

    Everyone should do a favor to humankind and see this film. It is the only film that has truly got to me.

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    posted 01-10-2001 08:05 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    I thoroughly enjoy Henry Mancini's The Adventures of the Great Mouse Detective.

    An extremely good score, with some fun songs and dialogue done by Vincent Price.

    man, could Mancini write some music or what?


    NP -- JJ's Basil Poledouris compilation

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    posted 01-10-2001 08:11 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    I wouldn't say that Lord of the Rings is the best thing Rosenman has done, but it's good no doubt.

    I'm surprised his H ness didn't mention Little Prince and the 8-Headed Dragon and The Humpbacked Pony, two neat animated scores by Akira Ifukube.

    I learned that Morricone did an animated film but I haven't heard the score.

    Gotta say good things about Sakamoto's Wings of Honneamise and many other great Anime scores.

    I like old-time scores like Bambi and Gulliver's Travels. Raksin, Kubic, Scott Bradley, Carl Stalling, and others have all contributed great scores to many animated shorts.

    Bernstein's Heavy Metal is awesome.

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    posted 01-10-2001 08:55 PM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Is the Mouse Detective flick you guys are referring to the Disney one abuot Basil??

    I loved the rat in that one, and the finale atop Big Ben.

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    posted 01-11-2001 12:28 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by H Rocco:
    The original Ralph Bakshi film is somewhat misbegotten (sorry Marian), but LORD OF THE RINGS may well be the finest thing Leonard Rosenman has ever done.

    You're right. The film is BAD! I still love it, though, because they couldn't completely kill Tolkien's story, and it was this film that introduced me to Tolkien in the first place. And of course the fantastic score. I don't know much by Rosenman yet, but this is one of the best music I've ever heard. And if anything saved the film from failing completely, it is probably the score. A shame I didn't mention it in my post above.

    NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #7 (Kölner Rundfunk-Sinfonie-Orchester, Günter Wand)

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    posted 01-11-2001 05:49 AM PT (US)     

     John Zimmer
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    I would suggest Titan A.E. but the music is unreleased. DARN IT!

    Jz

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    posted 01-11-2001 06:10 AM PT (US)     

     SBD
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    Here are my top ten scores:

    1) The Nightmare Before Christmas (Danny Elfman)
    2) Mulan (Jerry Goldsmith)
    3) The Secret of N.I.M.H. (Jerry Goldsmith)
    4) Chicken Run (Harry Gregson-Williams & John Powell)
    5) Dinosaur (James Newton Howard)
    6) Anastasia (David Newman)
    7) The Brave Little Toaster (David Newman)
    8) The Wrong Trousers (Julian Nott)
    9) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (Shirley Walker)
    10) The Lion King (Hans Zimmer)

    And the rest:

    Aladdin (Alan Menken)
    An American Tail 2 (James Horner)
    Antz (Gregson-Williams & Powell)
    Batman: Subzero (Michael McCuistion)
    Beauty and the Beast (Menken)
    A Bug's Life (Randy Newman)
    The Chipmunk Adventure (Randy Edelman)
    DuckTales: the Movie (David Newman)
    An Extremely Goofy Movie (Steve Bartek)
    The Great Mouse Detective (Henry Mancini)
    The Halloween Tree (John Debney)
    The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Menken)
    The Iron Giant (Michael Kamen)
    James and the Giant Peach (R. Newman)
    101 Dalmatians (George Bruns)
    Princess Mononoke (Joe Hisaishi)
    The Road to El Dorado (Zimmer & Powell)
    Rover Dangerfield (D. Newman)
    The Rugrats Movie (Mark Mothersbaugh)
    Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders (Louis Febre)
    Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost (Febre)
    Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island (Steve Bramson)
    The Secret of N.I.M.H. 2 (Lee Holdridge)
    South Park: the Movie (Marc Shaiman)
    The Sword in the Stone (Bruns)
    Tarzan (Mark Mancina
    Tenchi Muyo! In Love (Christopher Franke)
    Titan A.E. (Graeme Revell)
    Tom and Jerry: the Movie (Mancini)
    Toy Story 2 (R. Newman)

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    posted 01-12-2001 09:50 AM PT (US)     

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    Has anyone mentioned Ninja Scroll? Or Ghost In The Shell?

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    posted 01-12-2001 01:41 PM PT (US)     

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    I liked the Bakshi Rings flic more than the books. At least the movie was up front about not ending the damned thing. The books just don't know when to quit. In fact they're still not done.


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    posted 01-12-2001 02:02 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by mlw:
    I liked the Bakshi Rings flic more than the books. At least the movie was up front about not ending the damned thing. The books just don't know when to quit. In fact they're still not done.

    The ending of the film made ABSOLUTELY NO sense. (It's like having Han Solo killing a minor Imperial admiral followed by a voice-over that tells us that the Rebels have forever defeated the Empire). The complete last hour of the film is very "perforated" and missing many highly important sequences.

    And what do you mean by "They're still not done"??

    SBD, are Julian Nott's Wallace & Gromit scores available on CD?

    NP: The Secret of N.I.M.H. (Jerry Goldsmith) -

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    posted 01-12-2001 05:28 PM PT (US)     

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    Your definition was spot on Marian, though it's worth remembering that Bakshi had intended to finish his interpretation of LOTR.
    I wish I could find a copy of his collaboration with Frank Frazetta called Fire And Ice?!

    I thought Julian Nott's scores to Wallace And gromit were brilliant, Aardman animations could have launched this fine composer into the big time if they had kept him on for Chicken Run, Now don't get me wrong, I thought Gregson Williams and Powell's score worked very well,but it's not as if they were desperate for work!

    just my tuppence worth

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    posted 01-12-2001 06:09 PM PT (US)     

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    Your definition was spot on Marian, though it's worth remembering that Bakshi had intended to finish his interpretation of LOTR.
    I wish I could find a copy of his collaboration with Frank Frazetta called Fire And Ice?!

    I thought Julian Nott's scores to Wallace And gromit were brilliant, Aardman animations could have launched this fine composer into the big time if they had kept him on for Chicken Run, Now don't get me wrong, I thought Gregson Williams and Powell's score worked very well,but it's not as if they were desperate for work!

    just my tuppence worth

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    posted 01-12-2001 06:11 PM PT (US)     

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    p.s. The Wallace And Gromit scores have never been released!

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    posted 01-12-2001 06:16 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    What a shame. If it's true that Aardman are planning a feature length Wallace & Gromit film, I hope they bring back Nott.

    There's an animated film version of Return of the King (the third part of Lord of the Rings).

    The IMDb's trivia section says:

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    Many Tolkien fans were disappointed when Ralph Bakshi's 1978 adaptation of "Lord of the Rings" covered only the first two books of Tolkien's trilogy. When it became clear that Bakshi would not produce a sequel, Rankin and Bass finished the story for him with this movie.

    Though if I look at the poster, I can't help but thinking that THIS film is really horrible. Bakshi's ring at least has the right feeling, which is why I love it despite all it's - numerous - flaws.

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    posted 01-12-2001 06:29 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I might add that I totally love the song "Honor To Us All" from Mulan.

    NP: Mulan Expanded (Jerry Goldsmith)

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    posted 01-12-2001 06:33 PM PT (US)     

     Kross
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    My top 2 are...

    1) GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES

    2) GHOST IN THE SHELL

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    posted 01-12-2001 08:56 PM PT (US)     

     Kross
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    I think that most Animes, not the pop/cutsy/ultra-out there stuff, but the good ones, usually have better scores than 99% of American live action films, even the good ones!

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    posted 01-12-2001 08:58 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Lou Goldberg's right, I forgot about Akira Ifukube's LITTLE PRINCE & THE 8-HEADED DRAGON -- especially odd since I keep blathering about it in other threads. LITTLE PRINCE is regarded in Japan as one of their earliest true classics of animated film (before animation largely supplanted live-action over there.)

    His countryman Masaru Sato also wrote a wonderful, somewhat uncharacteristic score for the animated TOWARD THE TERRA (probably since issued on CD, but all I have is the 1980-or-so LP).

    Shoji Yamashiro's AKIRA is a knockout. (Usually credited to his group Geino Yamashirogumi, but close inspection of the Japanese liner notes reveals that Yamashiro is the principal, if not sole, composer.)

    The only Ryuichi Sakamoto composition I enjoy is his main theme for ROYAL SPACE FORCE.

    My favorite Disney film, SLEEPING BEAUTY, sports an utterly beautiful score, mostly adapted from Tchaikovsky's ballet of the same title.

    Marian actually LIKES a song from MULAN? Oh man! No accounting for taste, I suppose ...

    I read that Rosenman's LORD OF THE RINGS was one of the bestselling soundtracks of all time. People probably wanted to get it for the charming main theme ... the average listener probably couldn't get too deep into the rest of it. "Helm's Deep" is plenty addictive, though!

    NP: roomie is playing the video of GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA (1993)

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    posted 01-12-2001 09:42 PM PT (US)     

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    Alas, the Wallace and Gromit scores are not on CD. But according to Nott's website, there is good news. I'll be back later on with a link.

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    posted 01-13-2001 10:41 AM PT (US)     

     SBD
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    Ladies, gentlemen and everyone else, I have returned.

    Here's the link:
    www.peninsula-films.demon.co.uk/jn.html

    Click on "How to get a hold of my music".

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    posted 01-13-2001 11:13 AM PT (US)     

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    Excellent news, SBD, I'll definitely buy this when it's out!

    quote:
    Originally posted by H Rocco:
    Marian actually LIKES a song from MULAN? Oh man! No accounting for taste, I suppose ...

    quote:
    I read that Rosenman's LORD OF THE RINGS was one of the bestselling soundtracks of all time. People probably wanted to get it for the charming main theme ... the average listener probably couldn't get too deep into the rest of it. "Helm's Deep" is plenty addictive, though!

    Which is probably the reason why they put the "theme version" of the end credits march on the album as the first track. The liner notes to Intrada's expanded release say that this track was included "for commercial reasons". It doesn't appear in the film, and in fact harms the flow of the score (which the original album lacked anyway, the highlights being all in the first two thirds of the disc, ending with the finale, and then only stuff that doesn't stand well separated from the rest). In chronological order (as on Intrada's release), the main theme is developed throughout the score, but never fully featured in it's march form until the end credits.

    NP: The Cell (Howard Shore)

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    posted 01-13-2001 02:25 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    All true, Marian, but I personally felt a bit cheated that the "main title" version wasn't on the Intrada disc. Especially considering the pains Intrada took to make the album sound like it WASN'T recorded in a basement lined with soggy burlap.

    I have both the standard double LP and the picture disc double LP, and it's a real tossup as to which has the worse sound ...

    Has anyone mentioned Elmer Bernstein's wonderful Disney score, THE BLACK CAULDRON? (Ah, someone did. I just bothered to check. Isn't there an expanded version -- bootleg or not?)

    [Message edited by H Rocco on 01-13-2001]

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    posted 01-13-2001 02:32 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I think the "Theme" is more or less the same as the march part in the end title music. Anyway, with the four additional tracks, I don't think Intrada could have fitted the "Theme" on the disc as well without dropping one of the other tracks.

    NP: Dogma (Howard Shore) - comforting, really looking forward to Shore's LOTR score now

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    posted 01-13-2001 03:07 PM PT (US)     
     

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