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    Topic:   What do you say...?

     Hasta
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    During school, I often listen to a score (or two) one or two periods a day... Most often these are the two periods that are either ones that I tend to work very hard in, needing to concentrate without chatting with peers, or a class that I know hardly (or dislike =P) many people in the first place. Either way, there have been (perhaps too) many occasions that people ask "what are you listening to". So, begins the prediciment. Today, in english, a friend (that i'm not that close too), asked me what I was listening to. I replied, "a soundtrack". "Oh", he replied... "Which one"? I put my head down in shame, not because I don't like the music (I love it!), but there is no way in hell somebody would take my answer seriously. "Willow", I explain to him... "What?", he asks again... "Willow", I say again... He laughs. "That's all I really listen to, I have over 100 soundtracks." Now, keep in mind, I say soundtracks and not scores because it only confuses the person more. "I don't listen to those rap compilations", I add... I really have trouble explaining it EACH and EVERY time. "You know, the orchestrations from the movie...?". People being as dumb as they are usually STILL don't understand, as with the friend today... So, I sink to the lowest level possible... "You know, KINDA like Titanic"... This seems to be the best choice of words, but is usually doesn't get you the best reactions (especially from guys). Thankfully, the person sitting next to him understood it a little, and asked if it was like "The Rock"... I was relieved, at least somebody knew what I was talking about... It's the same, if not worse, with teenage girls... "Why do you listen to music with instruments, do you not like lyrics?"... Of course that's the reason RETARD... people these days. Anyway I know some (if not all) of you have been put in this situation, and if so, what do the people say in reponse to you? And, more importantly, what do you tell THEM you are listening to, and how do you explain it? Just curious! =P

    ~Hasta NP Titanic (James Horner) ****/*****

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    posted 01-08-2001 04:42 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I actually don't hear this question very often (probably because I don't get to know new people very often...).

    Back in school, I saw actually a bit glad that I liked music nobody else listened to (except one classmate). Before discovering film music, I used to listen to stuff like Roxette, Guns'n'Roses etc., only that I always started listening to a popular band shortly before everybody else became completely out. So, at least film music had ever been out, and I didn't have to worry about that.

    NP: Bless the Child (Christopher Young)

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    posted 01-08-2001 05:02 PM PT (US)     

     Onelegger
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    I think I must be one of the fortunate ones. I've had people ask me this question and I reply nicely and they usually either reply "cool" or a general "hmm." Most of the people I encounter are very nice about it even if they don't like and I can usually explain it to people who don't understand. But I usually say the music from whatever and they get it.

    Lucky me.

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    posted 01-08-2001 06:17 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Good question, Jason. I typically explain that it's the instrumental/orchestral portions of a film's soundtrack... AKA the "background music." I really hate labeling it as such, but it gets the message across. Amazingly, everyone I've ever encountered (and believe me, I meet a lot of people all the time) have some sort of appreciation for this stuff, whether they really know it or not. You just have to figure out what the best angle of introduction is. It's interesting, as many people seem to increase their respect or notion of sophistication with me when they discover my interest in film music. It really is a more thought provoking art form (in the musical world). I like painting the picture or telling the story in my own words, rather than hearing a vocalist put the words in my mouth. Sometimes it's fun - but not always. I mean, I DID just go out and buy the new Sting album (well, not so new) and a Christian album, Caedman's Call (Long Line of Leavers) - which is TRULY phenomenal stuff. It's fun to listen to and the lyrics say a lot of good things. But ultimately, I always return to my film music. I play it so much that no one really considers it odd or out of the ordinary any more... which, in turn, opens their mind to actually listening to it rather than being critical of it.

    Jeron

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    posted 01-08-2001 06:19 PM PT (US)     

     Vladimir
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    This stuff makes me bad because some people like my sister think i am weird or whatever for listening to this kind of music??But my mom and stepdad love it!! So atleast the majority of my house likes film music and even my cat i think likes it. Believe it or not i think his favorite cd is home alone 2 the score it puts him to sleep i'm serious haha

    Matt

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    posted 01-08-2001 06:47 PM PT (US)     

     Hasta
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    Hahah Vladimar I feel your pain, for me it's the other way around though. My parents could give a rats ass about the music, but my brother is at about the same stage I was freshman year (taking liking to the themes, yet not the whole scores themselves). Funny you mention your cat, I was just blasting Mighty Joe Young and one of my (3) cats jumped right next to my monitor and stood their for a few minutes. Funny stuff.

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    posted 01-08-2001 06:56 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    I've actually stopped answering this question, thinking that there's no really good way to answer it. Not that I ever evade the truth, but that to answer the question would require that the casual asker employ more brain cells to the answer, when they're probably not looking for that kind of commitment--examples:

    Them: What are you listening to?
    Me: I'm listening to "Six Days, Seven Nights" by Randy Edelman.
    Them: Huh?
    Me: The orchestral composition [at this point, they're lost] for the film starring Harrison Ford....
    Them: Ok. [End conversation]

    * * *

    A further dialogue, if any, would go like this--

    Them: So, who sings on that?
    Me: Nobody.
    Them: Oh. [End Conversation]

    * * *

    Them: So, what else as he done?
    Me: Kindergarten Cop, Dragonheart...
    Them: Oh.
    Me: The music in the 'Mulan' ads...
    Them: Ohhhh. [Light bulb. End conversation.]

    * * *
    The alternative is the following--

    Them: What are you listening to?
    Me: Kid Rock.
    Them: Cooool.
    Me: ....

    This answer is not recommended, only in the eventuality that it might lead to further discussion of the popular artist, or his work, both of which I know little, if anything.


    Not that I wouldn't love to share my music with the rest of the "uninitiated"...however, I have become more discretionary of those whom I tell. Be certain that those who ask are ready for the answer.


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    posted 01-08-2001 07:15 PM PT (US)     

     Kross
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    I hear ya...

    When someone asks the same of me, I usualy reply a " soundtrack" or "score." They say what? I say like, Star Wars and John Williams stuff ya know? They go, Ahh, m kay, got ya. EVERYONE ALIVE understands when you say John Williams, so that usually works.

    Let them have their music.

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    posted 01-08-2001 07:28 PM PT (US)     

     Johnnyecks
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    Hahh!!!!! Thats really funny!!!

    I really can't top that, but one time I was browsing the used bins at a local Circuit City and found 5 copies of "Dennis The Menace" for $8 a piece, so I bought the all for trading.

    I walked up to the counter where the pimple-faced checkout KID, started to ring me up and the stopped at disc # 3 and said...
    "Uhh......ya know you got like...umm..... five of..like the same cd's dude...."

    I said "Yes, I know.... "

    Him: "Ohh...okay. So....what...were you like in the movie or something?"

    Me: Looking at him in my best you're-an-idiot way...
    "No... I like the music"

    Him: "Oh....so, then why not just buy one...."

    Me: "Cause they're collectible"

    Him: "Oh...who else would want this?"

    Me: "Alot of people"

    Him: "What kind of music is this anyhow?"

    Me: "The instrumental stuff you hear (sometimes subconsciously) during key moments in the film"

    Him: ".........."

    Me: "Can you just ring me up?"

    Him: "Uhh....sure dude....sorry...I just never saw anyone buy so much junk before..."

    Me: "..........."


    Honest. Pretty much word for word. It was a bad moment!

    Also, when enquiring at a store if they "Have the score to __________"
    they usually say "Yeah, it's on the rack on the top 25 soundtrack wall".
    Me: "No, thats the soundtrack, I want the score"
    Them: ".........."
    Me: "The instrumental music"
    Them: "Oh.....umm....they didn't make that"

    Uh-huh........


    Honest again. SO, now I usually do my shopping at another store where a friend of mine works, who knows my interests, and dosen't question them! Yay!

    Or, I shop online.

    I just don't wanna be bothered with the local idiots anymore!!!


    Just figured I'd share!

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    posted 01-08-2001 07:40 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    I had a chick ask me, with incredulity, "who listens to this stuff"? when I purchased my copy of Leviathan.



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    posted 01-08-2001 07:49 PM PT (US)     

     Hasta
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    HAHAH, Lancelot that is one of the funniest threads I've ever read... I guess I could go that route, but I'd rather be embarassed by not knowing what to say about my scores then tell them Kid Rock... Besides, if I told them that, they'd probably make fun of me because his midget friend died...

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    posted 01-08-2001 08:06 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    Lancelot, that would be incredibly funny... if it wasn't so tragically true.

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    posted 01-08-2001 08:24 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Seems to me that there's far too much angst going on here.

    I LOVE film music! It is GREAT music!
    That's all that matters!

    What other people think about it is utterly irrelevant...I cannot control what anyone else thinks. I am not responsible for what anyone else thinks.
    When asked, I tell the curious that this is the greatest music I have ever experienced, and that I cannot get enough of it!

    I will never understand their music...and they will never understand mine.

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    posted 01-08-2001 08:48 PM PT (US)     

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    Absolutely great post. One of the even worse things is when you have a pair of headphones that is quite loud outside of the person listening to it.

    The scenario for me when I was still in high school on the bus, 2 years ago, was that I'd have to keep the volume markedly low to ensure that no one would pick up the 'questionable' music and thereby piss me off by asking what the heck i was listening to. The average busmate, of course, had on rap or top 40.

    But, now I'm in college and I don't care anymore. Although, people are still disturbed at the cd collection. At first it's "Holy S***!" seeing the 160 cds in my drawer. then it's "What the ****?" when they start to read the titles.

    Oh well. If the person's worth it, i'll quickly bring out some JW like indiana jones to give them some actual definition to what "film music" is. uncultured folkal=)

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    posted 01-08-2001 09:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Skiletic... Heheh, awesome! Often I find myself listening to loud scores (anything from Horner to Zimmer to Goldsmith), and I have to repeatedly keep my hand on the volume control.. Do I sacrifice listening experience for the respect of others? I do now... I'm a T.A. for Human Physiology, which includes many of my good friends in the class... At least about 5 of them, the rest of the class is filled with unknown geniuses (i refuse to call them dorks)... Anyway, I don't do JACK in that class. One day, the teacher was lecturing, the room was DEAD quiet, and I was listening to Armageddon (HEY, I like it!) with the volume at 10 (highest it goes)... For those of you who have this CD, it was on "the launch" track, and it was going full blast. All of a sudden I look up and everybody in the freaking class is staring at me... My face looked like a cherry. Though this is off topic, I must say this happened TWICE more since, only only with worse results... Our computer labs have lovely Imac's, so I am forced to put my headphones into the jacks on the front of the monitor whenever our class is in the computer lab... If they get unplugged, those little mother f*cking speakers on the monitor start blasting away... Long story short, this happened TWICE (in ONE week!), once with The Launch from Armageddon in History Class, once in Math class with the guitar part in Perfect Storm... Worst thing is, i panicked both times, and I swear to god it was blasting for at least 30 seconds each... I guess this is a good way of showing your peers what kinda music you like, as well as your teachers... Or a way of making yourself want to committ suicide... Anyway from now on I'm always on about 4 volume and NEVER use the computers at school with my CD's!!! Let that be a lesson!

    NP An Everlasting Piece (Hans Zimmer) ***/*****... definately grows on you, funky and lovely all at once.

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    posted 01-08-2001 10:11 PM PT (US)     

     John Dunham
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    I know the feeling. I have people asking me about the music I like now and then, with varied results. For example, I recall I time when I was eating lunch in the break room at work, and some guy had this techno-hip-hop-whatever crap blaring on the stereo. A girl walks in and sits down. She listens for a while, and the other leaves without turning off the stereo. The resulting conversation went as follows:
    Girl: "You like this kinda music?"
    Me: "No, not especially."
    Girl: "Oh... What kind of music do you listen to?"
    Me: "Film Scores."
    Girl: "..."
    Me: "The orchestral music you hear in movies. Not the songs, the, uh, score."
    Girl: "Ohhh... you mean, like, da da da DUMM.. da da da DUMMMMM?"
    Me: "Sort of, yeah."
    Girl: "Oh, okay." (Sounding slightly confused.)

    That's about typical, I think.

    NP: Farewell My Concubine: Modern Chinese Film Themes, Various, Silva compilation *****

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    posted 01-09-2001 10:43 AM PT (US)     

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    I once heard someone claim that there was no music in Sleeping With The Enemy, after having just seen it. Said person then went to see said film again a few days later and then told me that I was right all along, that there was Van Morrison music in it.

    I used to get annoyed, but now it doesn't bother me too much. I suppose I'm equally ignorant about a million other things.

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    posted 01-09-2001 02:40 PM PT (US)     

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    I just tell them that I listen to the music that was actualy in the movie. That seems to explain it in one sentance.

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    posted 01-09-2001 02:42 PM PT (US)     

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    Usually, when explaining film scores to the common music listener, I find they understand most quickly if you describe what you listen to as the "classical" music from the film. True, you're slightly misinforming them, but at least they know what you're talking about.

    Let me take this opportunity to relate two interesting conversations I had at the check-out counter, the first being at a used CD store and the second being at BestBuy...

    The first, at the used place:
    (I was buying M:I-2... I hadn't heard a note of it, but it was $5 so I figured it wouldn't hurt)
    Clerk: Uh, you know this is the instrumental score...
    Me: Yeah, I know.
    Clerk: Sorry, it's just people try to return them all the time, and they're like 'this CD sucks!'...
    Me: Mm-hm.
    Clerk: (jokingly) And that's when I say, "You can't return the CD just because you're too stupid to buy the right one in the first place."

    ------------

    The second, at BestBuy, where I am buying Mission to Mars:

    Clerk #1: Is that all instrumental music?
    Me: Yeah.
    Clerk #1: (to clerk #2) See, why can't there be one good action movie with a song soundtrack. The Rock, score CD. Enemy of the State, score CD...
    Clerk #2: What about the Matrix? That had a song and a score CD.
    Clerk #1: Yeah, but in that case I wanted the score... ironically.

    Clerk #1's final comment surprised me greatly.

    James
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    posted 01-09-2001 08:15 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Oddly enough, I've never really had one of these encounters. Usually, when I tell someone I listen to movie music, they seem to know what I'm talking about (or if they don't, they don't let on).

    I remember playing film music on a boom box in high school. A girl came up to me and said--"I didn't know you listened to that kind of music" (I presume she meant classical).

    I had a friend in high school who was into films and film music as well (we ran films in 16mm in the auditorium after school--not too many people came but we showed a lot of neat stuff). Once we were discussing the merits of The VIPs over the more epic Rozsa and a different girl came up to us and asked what we were talking about (I guess saying things like 'I really like the Dutchess of Brighton' must've sounded like a secret foreign code). Well, we were a particularly arrogant twosome in those days and we just let her have it: "If you had any musical taste to begin with, you wouldn't look so puzzled when we talk about Herrmann and Rozsa and Korngold. Go get a life and don't come back here until you do." You see, we were our own in-crowd in high school with higher standards than anybody.

    Actually, it was a relief to come to college and meet people who knew who classical composers were--a guy down the dorm hall from me played Havergal Brian (why didn't this guy go to our high school?!)--and I turned some folks onto film music while they introduced me to all sorts of things too.

    Still every once in a while I do run into those moments. Buying a soundtrack a clerk asks is the film any good and I'll say I don't know I didn't see it. Or when buying a strange video and telling a clerk I'm only buying it for the music.

    But you can't be classist about it. The guy who knows more about Japanese cinema than anyone else in my town isn't the Japanese Cinema prof, he's a cab driver! I probably know more about film music than anyone in town and I work in a hotel. Still, I don't expect the average clerk (or average person) to be too up on un-top 40 culture.

    So what do you say when the clerk wonders why you'd listen to Goldsmith's Leviathan? Pick up your own copy sister, you might be surprised.

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    posted 01-09-2001 09:33 PM PT (US)     

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    Yes, after I explain it to many people, they simply come off with "classical music"... if anything.

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