Now that Christmas is another one past and thinking about the real meaning of Christmas I had an idea that I would like to share with all of you and perhaps you would participate.

Using all the scores you have, no matter from which composers, and how many different soundtracks, select various tracks and re-tell the story of Jesus Christ from birth to His ascention. I'm starting with this tommorrow.

Would be interesting to see what we come up with. What you think?

Scott

I think the only one you need is Ben-Hur by Rozsa. none finer.

oh, I guess you stick some of Newman's The Greatest Story Ever Told in there as well.

Every time I hear this, I wish that Goldsmith would do a biblical epic of some sort.

From Jesus to Christ: The First Christians:
"Let the Reader Understand" and "Kingdoms in Conflict"

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Originally posted by JJH:
personally,

I think the only one you need is [b]Ben-Hur by Rozsa.NP -- Turangalila Symphony, Messiaen[/B]

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Very true, JJH,

but the whole premise here is to use scores that you have in order to create something new of sorts. If you wanna include just these scores that's cool though.

Scott

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Originally posted by Camillu:
I need to give some thought to the rest, but the last track can only be:The Ascension (from Cocoon)

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Great piece...as much as I remember from it. Don't have the score anymore (at least right now). Need to get a mp3 from it.

Scott

Great suggestion. I like it (listening to it now). I think it would fit very well here. It is cerominal and all representing the three wise men, little religious. Yes, I like it.

Akira Ifukube wrote two of the most purely spiritual scores of all time, THE BIRTH OF JAPAN and BUDDHA, but as those are tales of the Shinto and Buddhism, might not be fully appropriate here...

It doesn't really matter where the music came from, as long as it fits the story. Since I unfortunately don't have these scores I can't make any comments on this, yet I trust your judgemnt Rocco. Read further down on this thread for details how I am trying to do this thing here.

Scott

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Originally posted by OHMSS76:
I hate to say it, but I would have to include, somewhere in such an album, THE FINAL CONFLICT (First Part)...
Best wishes,
Sean

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Been thinking about this one as well. Just don't know where to incorporate it. I am trying to include whole tracks, but you are right this piece almost demands to be included, so I guess a little editing ain't too bad. Wait...I think I got. I am listening to it right now...I think this piece would be great at the baptism of Jesus and when the Holy Spirit ascends on him (Chorus part), we could include the end greatly as well since Jesus immediately goes into the desert to be tempted by satan himself.

What do you think?

Scott

NP Final Conflict

I got an outline that I need music for.

The whole thing would open with a prologue kinda describing the creation and representing the first 5 verses of John chapter 1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. Al things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darnkess comprehended it not

I selected track 11 "Bud on the ledge" from Silvestri's The Abyss for this one.

Following is the outline I kinda came up with including some pieces suggested by you guys and some I have found thus far in paranthesis. I know it is rather long but I appreciate any input you guys can give me.

Prologue (Bud on the ledge by Silvestri)
The birth of Jesus(The Penitent man will pass by Williams)
The Angels and the shepherds(Three Million light years from home by Williams)
The three wise men (The ceremony by Goldsmith)
The killing of the children (You have the Power by Trevor Jones/from Dark City)
Jesus presented in the temple (Love Theme by Marvin Hamlish from Sophie's choice)
The boy Jesus in the temple (The Ancestral Home by Williams from The river)
John the Baptist (Prelude by Elmer Bernstein from ten commandments)
The baptism of Jesus and the wilderness (The Final Conflict by Goldsmith)
Satan's temptations(The Dog's attack by Goldsmith from the omen)
Jesus and the power of the Spirit
The first Miracle
Jesus rejected at Nazareth
The unclean spirit cast out
The sick healed; devils cast out
The call of the first disciples
The leper cleansed
The choosing of the twelve
The preaching of the beatitudes
The centurion's servant healed
The raising of the widow's son
The death of John the baptist
Jesus annointed by a sinful woman
Jesus saves the woman
The storm stilled
A ruler's daughter raised
The feeding of the five thousand
The transfiguration
The demon possessed boy healed
Jesus visits Mary and Martha
Jesus heals on the sabbath
Jesus and the little children
Jesus fortells his death
The conversion of Zacchaeus
The triumphal enty
Jesus weeps over Jerusalem
The cleasning of the temple
Jesus authority challenged
The plot to kill Jesus
The last supper
Jesus fortells Peter's denial
Jesus agony in Gethsemane (pie jesu by Andrew Lloyd Wevver from Requiem)
Jesus betrayal and arrest
Peter's denial of Jesus
Jesus before Pontius Pilate
Jesus before Herod
Pilate delivers Jesus to be crucified
Jesus crucified
The death of Jesus
The burial of Jesus
The resurrection of Jesus
Jesus apoears to the ten
Jesus' ascension (The ascention by Horner)

Thanks again guys.

Scott

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I will use a classical reference here.

you should music from a composer, any composer's St John Passion.

JS Bach does nicely, but one more recent is that of Arvo Pärt on a CD entitled Passio, performed by the Hilliard Ensemble.

I won't make any pretentions here. The music is fairly dull in the sense that it basically never changes. 70 minutes of it gets boring. (but my interest is maintained by following the text along with the vocals.)

anyway, my point is that the last few bars of the piece, where Jesus gives up the ghost, is possibly THE most moving music I have heard. The whole is utterly the same for 70 minutes until that shining part at the end, where the vocal quartet, spread out over 4 octaves, pronounces Jesus' death, and then his resurrection with a great major chord.

I swear the first time I heard the thing, it moved me to tears, the change in the music is THAT effective.

dang, I wish I had the CD with me right now so I could be more specific about the text.

it really is something that should be considered intolerable hackwork, but given the whole structure, it is instead an amazing and moving masterpiece that commands and demands one's full attention.

NP -- Taras Bulba, Waxman

BTW: If anyone finds a piece that would fit better than the one already posted, just let us know. We can always change it.

Here is the list thus far:

Prologue (Bud on the ledge by Silvestri)
The birth of Jesus (The Penitent man will pass by Williams)
The Angels and the shepherds (Three Million light years from home by Williams)
The three wise men (The ceremony by Goldsmith)
The killing of the children (You have the Power by Trevor Jones/from Dark City)
Jesus presented in the temple (Love Theme by Marvin Hamlish from Sophie's choice)
Growing up (Growing up/the pony ride by Williams from the river)
The boy Jesus in the temple (The Ancestral Home by Williams from The river)
John the Baptist (Prelude by Elmer Bernstein from ten commandments)
The baptism of Jesus and the wilderness (The Final Conflict by Goldsmith)
Satan's temptations (Darth Sidious/Enter Darth Maul by Williams and The Dog's attack by Goldsmith from the omen)
Jesus and the power of the Spirit (Healing the sick by Patrick Williams from Jesus)
The first Miracle (Sad news by Horner from Deep Impact)
Jesus rejected at Nazareth (Honor him by Zimmer from Gladiator)
The unclean spirit cast out (Escape by Ernest Gold from Exodus)
The sick healed; devils cast out (The Fall by Goldsmith from the omen)
The call of the first disciples
The leper cleansed
The choosing of the twelve
The preaching of the beatitudes
The centurion's servant healed
The raising of the widow's son
The death of John the baptist
Jesus annointed by a sinful woman
Jesus saves the woman
The storm stilled
A ruler's daughter raised
The feeding of the five thousand
Jesus walks on water
The transfiguration
The demon possessed boy healed
Jesus visits Mary and Martha
Jesus raises Lazarus
Jesus heals on the sabbath
Jesus and the little children
Jesus fortells his death
The conversion of Zacchaeus
The triumphal enty
Jesus weeps over Jerusalem
The cleasning of the temple
Jesus authority challenged
The plot to kill Jesus
The last supper
Jesus fortells Peter's denial
Jesus agony in Gethsemane (pie jesu by Andrew Lloyd Wevver from Requiem)
Jesus betrayal and arrest
Peter's denial of Jesus
Jesus before Pontius Pilate
Jesus before Herod
Pilate delivers Jesus to be crucified
Jesus crucified
The death of Jesus
The burial of Jesus
The resurrection of Jesus
Jesus apoears to the ten
Jesus' ascension (The ascention by Horner)

Thanks for all of your help

Scott

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I didn't bother to bring that CD with me to Vegas.

as I say, it's probably a big gamble on your part, just for what amount to 2 minutes of music. It's 70 minutes of strange chords (with amazing singing, though), in a key that never changes (basically just stays in A minor the whole time).

the CD is horrid in the sense that it one track lasting 70+ minutes, rather than being broken up into pieces.

needless to say, it is a pain the wazoo to get that last few minutes.

the CD should be available in most good record stores. Pärt is a very popular composer these days.

Here is a
link for it at amazon.

There is an audio clip, and even a short review by yours truly (I thought I made that review anonymously, but oh well, there it is).