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Topic: The Ski Scene in Spellbound
Rang
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A terrific piece of music is playing during the climax of SUSPICION, where Lina McLaidlaw (Fontaine) fear her husband (Grant) is trying to murder her. This same selection appears in SPELLBOUND in the ski scene with Peck and Bergman.My question: did this music originate from SUSPICION and did Waxman write it, or was it tracked in from another film and written by another composer?
NP: Quo Vadis
posted 12-20-2000 07:18 PM PT (US) Rang
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Hmmm... I probably should have thought of another topic title.How about "Who Wrote This Music?"
There we go...
posted 12-20-2000 07:21 PM PT (US) Lou Goldberg
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Have to put the Krell Mind Booster on for this one.....I never thought about the similarities between Waxman's "Too Fast" cue from Suspicion and Rozsa's "Ski Run" from Spellbound.
As I recall, the Ski Run in the film is tracked with different music than in the Concerto and the published suite. I just never recognized it as Waxman, I thought it was Rozsa.
Obviously, the Suspicion cue pre-dates the Spellbound cue by at least 4 years so if it found its way into Spellbound somehow, it's by Waxman.
Now I'm going to have to play all these cues again just to verify what's really going on here.
posted 12-20-2000 09:00 PM PT (US) Rang
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It's definitely the same piece and it sounds like something Waxman would have written, but I wonder... ?
posted 12-20-2000 09:10 PM PT (US) PeterD
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Hmmmm. I just listened to the "Too Fast" track from "Suspicion" on the Varese "Music from Alfred Hitchcock Films" album, and the "Ski Run" track on the "Spellbound" soundtrack album conducted by Ray Heindorf, and they're certainly not the same piece of music at all. But perhaps the music actually used in the ski run sequence is different from the Heindorf album. I'll have to put my "Spellbound" video in the ol' VCR tomorrow and check it out. But it's getting too late now . . .
posted 12-20-2000 11:41 PM PT (US) Rang
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I should correct myself: the music as heard in both films is the same.[Message edited by Rang on 12-21-2000]
posted 12-21-2000 01:12 AM PT (US) PeterD
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I see what you mean, Rang. Very interesting. So I suppose Hitchcock was unhappy with Rozsa's "Ski Run" cue. (Or perhaps it was Selznick; the book "Hitchcock & Selznick" mentions that Selznick ordered a remix of the soundtrack after a member of a preview audience complained that the background music was too loud, so maybe he changed the cue at some point, too.)But getting back to your question, I would certainly be surprised if "Too Fast" was tracked in from another film. (I would assume that when George Korngold produced the Varese album that includes the "Suspicion" suite, he was working from Waxman's original written score.)
posted 12-21-2000 07:20 AM PT (US) Rang
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Thanks, Peter.
posted 12-21-2000 01:10 PM PT (US) John C Winfrey
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Rang, on your question:They are not the same on the LPs/CDs. I saw the Suspicion scene and listened to that music not too long ago. Now I need to see the Ski Run episode in Spellbound again to compare. I have not seen that one in a long time more than just a minute or two of it. There are some really great cuts on the Stanyan LP re-recording of it. The extra music on the 1985 recording of "The Train" cue is excellent and it leads into the "Ski Run" cue on that recording. Very nicely done with the dual pianos and orchestra. Very nice version-one of my favorites overall. Will check that out and let you know. It may be as the fellow above said, they substituted Waxman's cue from the earlier film for some reason. We already know that was done in Rebecca with short clips of Star is Born and Little Lord Fauntleroy by Steiner. JW.
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