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    Topic:   This site is slow today!!!!

     Greg Bryant
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    Must be all that snow on the Information Superhighway.

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    posted 12-20-2000 10:40 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Cute Greg, but I'd like to think that there are LOTs of people on the site eatting up the bandwidth

    But maybe there really is snow...

    --Kyp
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    posted 12-20-2000 10:44 AM PT (US)     

     webjedi
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    Peter needs to reboot his NT Server... I bet it's got a memory leak.

    Windows sucks... UNIX forever!!!

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    you're it! :-)

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    posted 12-20-2000 10:46 AM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    I can't claim that I dwell in the basement of the science building, but your right...the site is slow as hell and it's beginning to bug me! Doh!!

    NP:Total Recall Deluxe

    Sean

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    posted 12-20-2000 11:46 AM PT (US)     

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    Who's on an NT server? Ehh, response is good for me, although, yes, Kyp is right. We're running a pretty big marketing campagin with the Hollywood Stock Exchange. Lots lots lots more web traffic than normal, but the server is barely using 1/10th of its power at this point.

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    posted 12-20-2000 12:42 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Well, *I* for one am PROFOUNDLY offended and disturbed! I will never return to this site again! And as further revenge, I will never listen to another single score CD EVER! In fact, I will probably have to cut out watching movies too, since there's so much damn music in them! Of course, if I can find some quack to render me surgically deaf, this will be an irrelevancy!

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    posted 12-20-2000 12:45 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Everything fine here. There are times when the site is MUCH slower, at the moment it works perfectly fast.

    NP: The Twelve Days of Christmas (The Muppets, mp3)

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    posted 12-20-2000 03:32 PM PT (US)     

     webjedi
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    Who's on an NT server? Ehh, response is good for me, although, yes, Kyp is right. We're running a pretty big marketing campagin with the Hollywood Stock Exchange. Lots lots lots more web traffic than normal, but the server is barely using 1/10th of its power at this point.

    Well, okay... big deal you're running SLOWLARIS... it's just odd seeing ASP's running off of UNIX... better to use PERL, JSP or better yet.. PHP.

    And another thing... you may want to talk to your HSX folks.. because their links are set up wrong.. you can click till your hearts content (on different browsers) but it won't take you anywhere... just drops you off at akamai!

    [So, there... one jibe and one helpful note... I think I've balanced out my message board karma for the day]

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    posted 12-20-2000 04:02 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Hehehe, I was right!!!

    WinNT forever

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    --Kyp
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    NP: The Grinch! Suite: James Horner (****)

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    posted 12-20-2000 04:33 PM PT (US)     

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    I guess it is Slowlaris if you don't know how to set it up right! Hmmm, you no like asp, webjedi? It's great stuff, especially when engineered natively for UNIX. Booyaa, nothin' beats it. It even performs better than asp for NT. ChiliSoft is the name, kickin' web butt is the game. Java sucks, php is for beginners and perl is for nerds. There. How's that for a jibe? LOL.

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    posted 12-20-2000 05:00 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    And.....I.......thought......it.......was.......me..........

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    posted 12-20-2000 09:05 PM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    quote:
    Well, *I* for one am PROFOUNDLY offended and disturbed! I will never return to this site again! And as further revenge, I will never listen to another single score CD EVER! In fact, I will probably have to cut out watching movies too, since there's so much damn music in them! Of course, if I can find some quack to render me surgically deaf, this will be an irrelevancy!

    H. Rocco, since your soundtrack collection and your Video/DVD collection no longer has any value in your life, I'll give you $1.50 for the whole collection. You pay shipping and handling. Fair deal?

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    posted 12-21-2000 06:35 AM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    http://borgman.enquirer.com/weekly/daily_html/2000/12/121000borgman1.html

    This has little to do with film music, but I thought it was appropriate to the current topic.

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    posted 12-21-2000 06:38 AM PT (US)     

     webjedi
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    Great cartoon...

    but I wonder if Dubya even knows how to turn on a computer...

    (from that bumper sticker list of jokes)
    "George W. Bush... the President Quayle we never had!"

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    posted 12-21-2000 10:47 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    A most generous offer, Mr. Bryant, but I cannot formally be aware of it, as I no longer appear here.

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    posted 12-21-2000 11:13 AM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    Day Two.....

    Site still dragging....food running out...miss my dog...natives unfriendly here...don't know how much longer I can hold out.....

    NP:Papillon(Goldsmith)...wish I had Silvestri's CAST AWAY....

    Fading fast...
    Sean

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    posted 12-21-2000 11:15 AM PT (US)     

     webjedi
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    Agreed.. (personally I was going to post about DAY TWO, but I think I was going to feel the pain of a PeterK harangue)

    It really, at this time, may or may not come down to what technology he's using, but it's still slow. I carry about as much load on my own server without a problem, and have worked on sites with much less in the way of computing power and served a greater load. I dunno if Peter has a dedicated server, but if not, he should look into getting one. If it is a dedicated server... I would suggest doing a technology assesment to see if it's really meeting the need.

    (oh, and the comments about languages... to keep from getting into a true CS discussion... admit it... you're running PERL for the message board... 'nuff said)

    <tag> (you're it again)

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    posted 12-21-2000 12:07 PM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    quote:
    A most generous offer, Mr. Bryant, but I cannot formally be aware of it, as I no longer appear here.

    Ahhh, so you must be a figment of your own imagination...

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    posted 12-21-2000 12:38 PM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    quote:
    but I wonder if Dubya even knows how to turn on a computer...

    Nahhh, he's still trying to figure out how to work "The Clapper"...

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    posted 12-21-2000 12:41 PM PT (US)     

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    I've been searching high and low to find out what might be causing the slowness, and it happens to be a problem with the routers at the ISP. There is nothing wrong with the servers themselves. Unfortunately, though, the guy who works on the routers is on a small vacation at this point and doesn't care about whining soundtrack fans!

    David, the hardware infrastructure for MovieMusic is quite excellent, built by CalTech guys. Thanks for your expert advice, though. Not all movie soundtrack webmasters look for free disk space from the latest free-hosting.com, some need to invest heavily in their systems. I dare say we compare what's behind this site and soundtrack.net! But hey, it's whatever gets the job done for the BUSINESS you are in; MovieMusic's business just happens to be vastly different from every other soundtrack website.

    The comments about the languages? Those were a jibe, so there is no need to talk about the jibe. Jibes are jests in fun. But, if you really want to know what I think, sure, perl is a great language. As you've noted, it's used here. If it sucked, it wouldn't be used here.

    Here's to hoping the snow melts so my ISP guy can come back sooner!

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    posted 12-21-2000 01:37 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    I've been searching high and low to find out what might be causing the slowness, and it happens to be a problem with the routers at the ISP. There is nothing wrong with the servers themselves. Unfortunately, though, the guy who works on the routers is on a small vacation at this point and doesn't care about whining soundtrack fans!


    Well, usually, if you're using this as a livelyhood.... this is grounds for a breach of contract with your service provider... two days in a row is a serious condition.. vacation or not. But I'll put that one down for a value judgement... If eBay... or lets say something smaller (but comparable in content)... um say, The Drudge Report would have users and loyalty dropping like flies by now...

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    David, the hardware infrastructure for MovieMusic is quite excellent, built by CalTech guys.


    What, janitors from CalTech? c'mon... a pedigree doesn't mean they know how to do anything... I've met a bunch of real duds from prestigous schools... hell, look at what we've recently been given as a President.. and he supposedly went to Harvard!

    quote:

    Thanks for your expert advice, though. Not all movie soundtrack webmasters look for free disk space from the latest free-hosting.com, some need to invest heavily in their systems. I dare say we compare what's behind this site and soundtrack.net! But hey, it's whatever gets the job done for the BUSINESS you are in; MovieMusic's business just happens to be vastly different from every other soundtrack website.


    Okay Peter... I had to get up from my desk and walk around a bit after this comment... more or less there were some choice words I'd like to expouse right now, but since this is a kid-themed site, I'd opt to keep more civil.

    In short, if you want the details, I'd be more than willing to list 'em.. but I'll wait for a real request. Anyhow, all the important info is already listed on a page on our website... so it's no use bothering to repeat it here. However, I'm a professional systems engineer, and I know how to do things like capacity planning, disaster receovery, and more importantly... how to pick good hosting and network providers.

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    The comments about the languages? Those were a jibe, so there is no need to talk about the jibe. Jibes are jests in fun. But, if you really want to know what I think, sure, perl is a great language. As you've noted, it's used here. If it sucked, it wouldn't be used here.



    Yes, they were jibes, and I wasn't getting caustic about it. I just didn't appreciate your automatic nay-saying and labelling of, what for a lot of folks, are useful web technologies. So, I'll leave it there.. or we can start a new thread if anyone is interested... but then again.. isn't this supposed to be a film music site? It seems we've been forced to start a tech-support group for the site...

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    Here's to hoping the snow melts so my ISP guy can come back sooner!


    Well, with the amount of pissing going on in this contest, we should aim in the direction of your ISP to get the ball rolling... and BTW, don't trust SoCal ISPs Peter? I surely don't...

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    posted 12-21-2000 02:06 PM PT (US)     

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    Excuse me... I meant "Dubbya" went to Yale... whoops... still the same premise... and still extremely off topic!

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    posted 12-21-2000 02:39 PM PT (US)     

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    I am surprised by this reaction. Who is pissing? Firstly, you have no idea what kind of arrangement MovieMusic has with its provider, so please keep the comments about this away from this! Sure, I agree with all you say about eBay, but this isn't eBay.

    I apologize for dropping the CalTech name on you, yes. That wasn't needed. But, I will say these guys have been on main frames and Unix computers before SQL was even invented. Is that better?

    I dared use to compare MovieMusic servers to soundtracknet servers because we'd probably find we have very similar setups behind the scenes! I just took a look at what's listed on your site, and sure, it's very similar!

    Like I said, jibes are jibes. You should find no reason to appreciate or not appreciate a jibe. That's why it's a jibe. It's meant in fun.

    Enjoy the Christmas holidays, everyone, away from your computers!

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    posted 12-21-2000 02:40 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, I think I'll leave it as this...

    I've just tried a few more servers at your ISP on the same network block.. and a few with a higher traffic rating than you.. and well... they came back fast and fine...

    If it WAS the router... I would have had the same performance on their site as we do yours... but then again... you don't need a degree from CalTech for that... just some basic knowledge of how webservers and networks work...

    ...EOM.. that is all...

    Cheers! (Have a Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah...and a happy new year.. from away OR in front of your computers... why does Peter discourage that?!)

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    posted 12-21-2000 03:00 PM PT (US)     

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    This is serious - which ones did you try? Please email the domains to me, thanks! And this is the end of my participation too. back on topic!

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    posted 12-21-2000 03:16 PM PT (US)     

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    Yup folks... tech support session is now over (contacted Peter off-line)... and to paraphrase an old Peter Kelly-ism...

    "The Doctor is Out!"

    TTYL y'all!

    [Message edited by webjedi on 12-21-2000]

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    posted 12-21-2000 03:32 PM PT (US)     

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    Okay, okay.. one last post, because I don't feel like e-mailing Peter...

    A good reason, especially on an insecure Solaris machine (they come out of the box that way) has identd turned on (a reverse look-up machine identity daemon) which, when used on improperly configured versions of Apache and in DNS, use identd to lookup the client computer and the server's address to begin communication. If no REVERSE DNS (address to machine mapping) set up, which is the case for moviemusic.com, a connection will take signifigantly long to set up, and thus wait for a connection timeout before proceeding to just connect and forget about trying to verify the connection. This is more of a pain if you happen to use SSH, or any secure protocol that has any level of basic authentication.

    There are several things you can do to fix this, and possibly fix ONE of your problems. First, disable identd and remove the "DNSLookups" flag (basically set it to "NO"). Two, get your ISP to put proper REVERSE IP information in their DNS servers. Or, if you like, fake it by runnign your own DNS server, and point your resolv.conf (or similar file) to list your local DNS server first and then list your ISP's servers second, third, fourth... etc.

    Any network engineer should know how to do this.. it's the reason they paid the big bucks...even tho I haven't seen it on my end!

    and in the words of General Patton.. "That is all!"

    Sincerely,

    David

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    posted 12-21-2000 04:31 PM PT (US)     

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    Oh.


    Happy Holidays everyone.

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    posted 12-21-2000 08:17 PM PT (US)     

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    I've finally gotten word back from the vacationing ISP guy. Word is, the problem is a fellow client. They've maxed out the 100MB bandwidth connection without proper warning, therefore clogging the same pipe MovieMusic serves. As soon as the chiefs get back to work, someone's in big trouble. Plugs will be pulled and MovieMusic will return its quickness.

    To stay on topic here, the site's slowness will be gone soon. Thanks for your patience everyone, and remember, always stick to engineers who get paid the big bucks. Don't listen to that webjedi guy, he doesn't know what he's talkin' about!



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    posted 12-21-2000 08:57 PM PT (US)     

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    Peter, that's the first post in this thread that's made sense all day. Thanks for the update!

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    posted 12-21-2000 09:11 PM PT (US)     

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    Yeah Peter.. whatever... go back to your little glass house... and we'll see who starts throwing rocks again.. most likely it's the owner!

    Tschuss!

    [However, your network perfomance has improved... congrats on getting your ISP to do something]

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    posted 12-22-2000 12:45 AM PT (US)     

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    Hey David,

    Don't be mean to Peter! After all, he put a smiley face, which we all know means he can say belittling things under a sheild of immunity.


    See? I'm immune!!
    Dan

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    posted 12-22-2000 07:08 AM PT (US)     

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    Hey guys, the ISP guy hasn't done anything, he's still on vacation. Thanks for holding out. And yes, that winking dude does go along way, for those of us who are secure, and those of us who are insecure!



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    posted 12-22-2000 07:31 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes, but in some cultures, the winking smiley guy has a totally different meaning.


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    posted 12-22-2000 08:53 AM PT (US)     

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    Greg, is there some significance in the fact that there are 7 smiling faces winking at me?

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    posted 12-22-2000 09:03 AM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    Al, depends on what culture you're from.

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    posted 12-22-2000 09:04 AM PT (US)     

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    Al's not in Los Angeles, so he's from a culture that can appreciate a wink! Seven winks, even!!!



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    posted 12-22-2000 09:39 AM PT (US)     

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    So if you're in LA, you can't appreciate a wink?

    Dan

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    posted 12-22-2000 11:18 AM PT (US)     

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    I guess some people can! Funny, this thread's main icon in the discussion display list is a wink. People react funny to that little guy. Maybe he's bad karma.

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    posted 12-22-2000 11:24 AM PT (US)     

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    All this winking! Did it occur to you that some of us might suffer from EPILEPSY??? No wonder I no longer read these threads, or post here at all, ever! Much less play horrid film music!

    NP: SANDAKAN 8 (from "The World of Akira Ifukube)


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