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      Randy Edelman, where has my friend gone?

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    Topic:   Randy Edelman, where has my friend gone?

     Hasta
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    If Randy Edelman ceased to exist, my score obsession might as well. He is a large reason I am as big a fan of scores as I am today. His scores for Gettysburg, Kindergarten Cop, Dragonheart, and to a lesser extent, Dragon, all contributed to my obsession. In fact, when I first started to get into scores, I classied Edelman as my "favorite composer". Since Dragonheart, though, his record is as shows (directly ripped from IMDB) :

    Cletis Tout (2001)
    Shanghai Noon (2000)
    Skulls, The (2000)
    Whole Nine Yards, The (2000)
    Passion of Mind (2000)
    Hunley, The (1999) (TV)
    Edtv (1999)
    ... aka Ed TV (1999) (USA: poster title)
    Six Days Seven Nights (1998)
    ... aka 6 Days 7 Nights (1998)
    For Richer or Poorer (1997)
    Leave It to Beaver (1997)
    Gone Fishin' (1997)
    Anaconda (1997)
    Daylight (1996)

    Why isn't he given any epic projects any more? Or even quality fun ones.. Daylight was an OK score, Anaconda had it's (very few) moments, but since then, he hasn't done sh*t. It gets me mad, because I would die for another masterpiece like Dragonheart (which, to this day, remains as one my favorite scores). I know many of his scores sounded cheap, but you would think producers would still go with Edelman given the chance he could produce another epic score like he has done in the past... The only other composer I've seen gone more down the tube is Alan Menken, who is virtually out of the business as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, what are your thoughts on why this has happened to Edelman? Just like to hear em, thats all..

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    posted 12-17-2000 10:37 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Hasta:
    Anyway, what are your thoughts on why this has happened to Edelman? Just like to hear em, thats all..

    ...I know many of his scores sounded cheap...



    Perhaps that's the reason?


    Scott


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    posted 12-18-2000 08:43 AM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    "Shanghai Noon" and "Six Days Seven Nights", at the very least, were both "quality fun ones". "Six Days" had a romantic scope to it which was comparable to John Barry. "Shanghai Noon" borders on epic, or mock epic--which is just as good, if done well, and so it was.

    "Passion of Mind" is a brilliant, softer score, which is always a pleasureable listen.

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    posted 12-18-2000 09:41 AM PT (US)     

     Hard Target
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    Hasta, is right Edelman hasn't had a really good run of scores lately. However, this past year showed me that he is starting to comeback a little more. I just think he has to stop scoring stupid comedies like Leave It To Beaver though. The Whole Nine Yards was my favorite of his scores this year. Followed by Shanghai Noon and The Skulls has well one of his better themes and it stood out more than the movie did. But the real reason Edelman has been on the decline is because of the passing of orchestrator Greig McRitchie two years ago. It was McRitchie's orchestrations that made Edelman's scores so wonderful in the late 80's and early to mid 90's. Ever since he's tried a variety of orchestrators from Ralph Ferraro to himself, and still he hasn't felt comfortable. He really needs a fresh orchestral sound to get him back to his old form of some 5 plus years ago.

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    posted 12-19-2000 01:00 AM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Hard Target:
    ...orchestrations that made Edelman's scores so wonderful in the late 80's and early to mid 90's

    ...and you really mean that?


    Scott


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    posted 12-19-2000 07:46 AM PT (US)     

     A.G
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    How about his absolutely BRILLIANT score to Ghostbusters II? Still can't beleive that one hasn't been released yet...

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    posted 12-19-2000 07:59 AM PT (US)     

     Hard Target
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    Yes, Scott I really do mean that. It was McRitchie who helped make Poledouris' scores so great from Big Wednesday all the way to Starship Troopers. John Barry's Dances With Wolves. Lee Holdridge's The Beastmaster. This man was freakin awesome. I totally agree with you A.G. on Ghostbusters 2 it should've been released.

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