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Topic: Elliot Goldenthal's Final Fantasy

Drixorial
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I was reading over at http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/ and according to them, Elliot Goldenthal has landed the job of scoring the upcoming CG animated feature FINAL FANTASY. Now being somewhat new to film scores, I'm not too familier with the works of Elliot Goldenthal and to be honest am somewhat dissapointed that Nobuo Uematsu who has scored the 9 video games didn't get scoring duties on this one. Could anyone fill me in on Elliot Goldenthal? and can he put together a memorable sci-fi score?NP: D Davis: The Matrix
posted 12-08-2000 01:00 PM PT (US) 
Quill
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Goldenthal is a fine composer...if not eccentric in his style (which I have no problem with) The only sci-fi score (that I know of) that he has done is Alien 3--not your standard sci-fi score to be sure. But given the look and subject matter of Final Fantasy I think he'll do a fine job.
posted 12-08-2000 02:01 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Oh my... lol. I know someone who's gonna be REALLY unhappy! Goldenthal is DEFINITELY NOT Uematsu... lol. I can't stop laughing. Kyp, perhaps this'll be the score that will get you into Goldenthal's work. Or maybe it'll be the one that will cause you to dislike his music even more!I'm not quite sure what to think of this, myself... but for some reason, I kind of figured it would happen this way. Goldenthal's style is just abstract enough to fit this FF tale like a glove (from what I've seen in the trailers). Interesting...
Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 12-08-2000]
posted 12-08-2000 02:29 PM PT (US) 
Cole

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new goldenthal. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA let us all rejoice in the sheer insanity that shall be produced. this is just excellent EXCELLENT <insert maniacle laughter here>
posted 12-08-2000 04:06 PM PT (US) 
Al

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GOLDENTHAL?!WOW. THANK YOU!
This is guh-reat news.
This movie may be even better than I thought, seeing as the filmmakers are smart enough to get Elliot G.
If you've seen the trailer, you know that he has some very surreal visions to deliver inspiration.
Who knows what he'll come up with.
Bring it on.
posted 12-08-2000 08:54 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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AL, SHUTUP! JERON, YOU GET TO BE MY CRYING/WINE IM WINDOWSOMEONE SHOOT ME!
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO OF ALL THE COMPOSERS THAT CHOOSE HIM?!

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DAMN AND DEATH TO GOLDENTHAL!!!!!!!
--Kyp
Writer/Editor[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 12-08-2000]
posted 12-08-2000 09:13 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Maybe Goldenthal will do something that sounds like James Horner.....NAH.
posted 12-08-2000 09:17 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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DEATH TO GOLDENTHAL!!! :
:--Kyp
Writer/Editorposted 12-08-2000 09:18 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Although I feel your pain Kyp...you never know, this may turn out to be one of our favorite scores of the year
posted 12-08-2000 09:18 PM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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GOLDENTHAL ROCKS!!! GOLDENTHAL ROCKS!!! GOLDENTHAL ROCKS!!! GOLDENTHAL ROCKS!!!
And if you don't think so, then buddy you've got a serious problem. But if you're still not convinced of his choice just check out these scores:ALIEN 3
MICHAEL COLLINS
TITUS (This is a goodie)
BATMAN FOREVER
COBB
BUTCHER BOY
DRUGSTORE COWBOY
INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE
SPHERE
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST HIS BALLET, OTHELLOOh joy!! What a sick twisted genius we're blessed with...All we need now is for him and another sick-twisted genius like director John Woo to team up.
P.O.
Alien to the third power (Elliot Goldenthal) *****posted 12-08-2000 09:43 PM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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DAMN IT!! I FORGOT TO MENTION DEMOLITION MAN THAT SUCKS!!! AWESOME SCORE...LOVE THE MACHINE WALTZ...BUT THE FREAKIN MAIN TITLE IS MISSING AH!!!GOLDENTHAL ROCKS PART 2!!!!!!
posted 12-08-2000 09:46 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Hard Target, I'll kill you too
Dosen't anyone feel my pain besides Justin????
--Kyp
Writer/Editorposted 12-08-2000 10:46 PM PT (US) 
Drixorial
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Well after posting this today I decided to go out and get 'educated' I bought Titus and Interview with a Vampire. Being a fan of the music from the FF series of videogames there still is a dissapointment there about Nobuo Uematsu not composing the music for this movie(if anyone has heard Liberi Fatali you know what I mean
) But I have to say that I'm pretty impressed of what little Goldenthal work I've heard. The first and Finale tracks from Titus are AMAZING! I love the pounding percussion, huge brass hits and my god a mail choir in that first track. As for Interview with a Vampire--I love this sucker Libera Me, Born into Darkness and it's reprise are all great tracks. As much as I'm dissapointed about Uematsu not being able to step into this one, it seems like a solid move on the part of Sakaguchi bringing in Goldenthal. Either way bring in 2001 baby!!
NP: Interview with A Vampire
[Message edited by Drixorial on 12-08-2000]
posted 12-08-2000 10:56 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Drix,The reason why Nobuo Uematsu is not composing the music for the film is because he dosen't like doing scores for movies.
Still mad
(Jeron, a little help please)--Kyp
Writer/EditorNP: Final Fantasy IX
[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 12-08-2000]
posted 12-08-2000 11:15 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Uematsu not doing film scores sounds logical, but what press release or fact book did you read that in, Kyp? I'm curious...Jeron
posted 12-08-2000 11:38 PM PT (US) 
Drixorial
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As logical as it sounds the potential is definitly there. Pieces like Liberi Fatali, the last 6 minutes or so of the FFVIII Ending theme and The Main Theme of FFVII(Orchestrated) actually sound ALOT better then some movie scores. My dissapointment really seems to stem that this score could have made people sit up and take notice of this 'video game' composer.NP: Final Fantasy IX-Disc 4 Track 6 (*****)
posted 12-08-2000 11:48 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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GOLDENTHAL ROCKS!
I'm interested what he'll do with FF. I have Alien³, Interview with the Vampire, Batman Forever and Demolition Man, and love them all. I think FF is going to be a bit more melodic.
NP: Young Sherlock Holmes (Bruce Broughton)
posted 12-09-2000 08:16 AM PT (US) 
Aaron Collins

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This is indeed a big surprise to me. But, I am ecstatic over this news. Goldenthal is one of my favorite composers and I think he will compose another awesome score. He is one of the only few film composers that is not afraid to venture into the art music and avant garde arena.This is awesome news! By the way, you have not heard his concert works, by all means, GO GET THEM!
Latz,
AaronNP: Disorder, Ligeti
posted 12-09-2000 09:53 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Jer, I read it a while back. There was an interview done, and it asked why Uematsu did not do ANY film scores and he replied "I just dosen't like to do them."Anger still there but much faded, sleep helped.
--Kyp
Writer/EditorNP: Home Alone 2 Suite
posted 12-09-2000 10:53 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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If it's any consolation, I was saddened when the Colorado Rockies announced they had signed Mike Hampton...
oh well, if they offered me $112 million, I guess I'd pitch there too.
NP -- Primal Fear, JNHposted 12-09-2000 12:42 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Um, what does that have to do with "Final Fantasy?"--Kyp
Writer/Editorposted 12-09-2000 02:04 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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It has everything to do with Final Fantasy. Duh. If you were a true FF fan, you'd know these things. Makes me wonder why you're really making such a big fuss about the score.
[Message edited by Jeron on 12-09-2000]
posted 12-09-2000 02:28 PM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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Don't ever threaten anyone...I don't take to kindly to them. Unless you're going to actually do it...but if I were you C/K-1, I'd cool off..okay.P.O.
Good Will Hunting (Danny Elfman) ****/****posted 12-10-2000 12:16 AM PT (US) 
John Zimmer

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YOU WILL DIE SCEAMING IN FIREY PAIN SPAWN OF SATAN!
I hate Elliot Goldenthal's STUUUPID SQUEALING TRUMPETS!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
posted 12-10-2000 07:01 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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baseball has to do with everything...anyway it could be worse:
they could have hired Eric Serra or Trevor Rabin.
posted 12-10-2000 07:42 AM PT (US) 
Al

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Amen, JJH.
posted 12-10-2000 09:58 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Or Harold Faltemeyer... Amen to that, too.
posted 12-10-2000 10:03 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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::The door opens, everyone turns to see. Someone walks through the door into the thread. Everyone looks. Then someone in the back says "Oh **** , Kyp's back with his Final Fantasy 'lets kill everyone one thing."::Jeron, you mocking me? How dare you even think that I am not a true "FF" fan. I might let you live, since I see the blinking eye on your post above.
As to Hard Target, let's talk, you have AIM? I'll tell my story.
And to anyone else that wants to hear, IM me.
--Kyp
Writer/EditorNP: Final Fantasy IX
[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 12-10-2000]
posted 12-10-2000 01:35 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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How about we just call Dr. Toons? I think he's offering free psychotherapy to long-standing members of MovieMusic.com.
What a deal!

[Message edited by Jeron on 12-10-2000]
posted 12-10-2000 04:11 PM PT (US) 
Al

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Was the Doc a he or she? I can't remember.
posted 12-10-2000 04:28 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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LOL... He was a he. Perhaps he's now a she. Peter? Is the doctor now a doctoress?[Message edited by Jeron on 12-10-2000]
posted 12-10-2000 05:54 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Bad joke Jeron.--Kyp
Writer/EditorNP: Princess Mononoke (****)
posted 12-10-2000 09:20 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Good joke. Bad Kyp.
posted 12-10-2000 09:32 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

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I don't think the Doc's sex was ever identified. Could anyone tell by the image that was painted in the Doc's likeness over at MovieTunes? I couldn't. But anyway, I personally know the good Doc has never been involved in psychology on a certified level. I never saw those kinds of diplomas. Uhh, Toons, a.k.a. Doctor Mumford, if you will.
posted 12-10-2000 09:34 PM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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Friendly Reminder:The topic is: FINAL FANTASY
--Kyp
Writer/EditorNP: Best Friend's Wedding (JNH)
posted 12-11-2000 05:42 PM PT (US) 
Al

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Friendly Reminder:The message board is on: MOVIEMUSIC.COM.
Does anyone here ever stay on topic for long?
posted 12-12-2000 07:03 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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okay, back on topic:
Nobuo Uematsu has written some fine stuff for a viedogame.
but let's face it:
obvioualy the producers of the film want it ot be somewhat forward thinking, and Goldenthal's music is perfect for just that.
he's at the forefront of classical and film scoring when it comse to pushing the compositional envelope.for me, Liberi Fatali is impressive, but pales in comparison to, say, the opening of Goldenthal's Titus.
posted 12-12-2000 08:04 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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::Coughs::--Kyp
Writer/Editorposted 12-12-2000 04:30 PM PT (US) 
Pete M

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I think this is really excellent news. Goldenthal is far from being the most obvious choice for this film, but good grief, I can just see it working.
It's great to see a bit of invention when choosing a composer for a project. I'm quite looking forward to this now...np nothing. Instinct just finished, & I'm about to start Batman.
posted 12-13-2000 03:46 AM PT (US) 
Crono/Kyp

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::Coughs::--Kyp
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