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JJH Standard Userer	http://www.msnbc.com/news/491165.asp anyone else interested to see what this John Logan guy comes up with? NP -- Take a Hard Ride, Goldsmith
posted 11-19-2000 09:10 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Standard Userer	...can't say that I'm truly interested, but I do like Star Trek enough to wait it out and see what these clowns come up with.
posted 11-19-2000 09:24 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Standard Userer	I wonder if he'll rip off Spartacus again, as he did it so blatantly in Gladiator. Shaun
posted 11-19-2000 10:59 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Definitely looking forward to it... Frakes will probably be directing (let's hope that goes through!). I vaguely remember an interview between Frakes and Berman discussing Trek X. If memory serves me correctly, that interview + the rumors going around all point to one big helluva space battle movie w/ all the stuff the fans have been asking for. It's back to the basics... or so I hope. Regardless, the more pyrotechnics and evasive maneuvers involved, the better! Jerry KNOWS BEST how to score explosions and chaos. Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 11-20-2000]
posted 11-20-2000 12:23 AM PT (US)

meegle Standard Userer	LOL@Jeron...... ....but please.....HIRE A REAL DIRECTOR!!!! ONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SET UP A MOTION PICTURE'S SHOT, NOT SIMPLY A GRAND TV SHOT......what a novel concept!!!!! stoopidhollywood!!!
posted 11-20-2000 07:32 AM PT (US)

spango Standard Userer	yes, please hire another director and another composer! I can´t stand anymore this boring family-television-show! if cronenberg directs sequels of crappy films why doesn´t anybody want david lynch to direct the next star trek adventure, scored by badalamenti with the great patrick stewart and the underrated john delancie in the leading roles?
posted 11-20-2000 02:53 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Although I'd love to see Nick Meyer come back and direct a grittier Next Generation movie, I think Frakes has a good handle on the characters, and as First Contact shows he can do action sequences well. Don't blame him for Insurrection...the budget special effects house killed the movie. I would like to see some new blood in the music category (as much as I love Goldsmith's work) I think David Arnold or Craig Armstrong could provide a new twist, especially if there will be a lot of action in X's future.
posted 11-20-2000 03:17 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	If not Jerry Goldsmith (nothing wrong with him!), why not Cliff Eidelman once again? Or if you want someone new for Trek, what about Broughton or Poledouris?
posted 11-20-2000 03:26 PM PT (US)

Racerprose Standard Userer	Don't count on Franke's directing the next Star Trek. He has other projects he is working on at the moment. He will of course act as Commander. Riker. From what I have heard, this new Star Trek film is said to have more action/space battles. Thus, expect a great score by Goldsmith.... -Racerprose
posted 11-20-2000 03:59 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Isn't that more or less what I said above? And Quill! Right on! I think David Arnold would be an absolutely awesome choice. An even better (but highly unlikely) would be a dream team combo of Goldsmith AND Arnold. I've actually had dreams about this... [Message edited by Jeron on 11-20-2000]
posted 11-20-2000 06:05 PM PT (US)

Racerprose Standard Userer	Yes, you said that above, Jeron. But what you did not mention was about, Franke's possibly not directing the next Trek film. If memory serves, Franke's is doing other sci-fi films. I believe one of them is, Total Recall 2. -Racerprose
posted 11-20-2000 06:11 PM PT (US)

JJH Standard Userer	Racer, it's Jonathan FRAKES.
posted 11-20-2000 06:15 PM PT (US)

Ruddiger unregistered	John Logan wrote "Bats." Nuff said. Trek X will suck like nothing has sucked before.
posted 11-20-2000 07:04 PM PT (US)

Racerprose Standard Userer	Ah, yes. Thank you, JJH. I was not totally sure on that, so I kinda guessed. -Racerprose
posted 11-20-2000 07:07 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	As reliable a source IMDB is (I know), it lists Rick Berman, John Logan, Patrick Stewart AND Brent Spiner as contributors to the story. I'm sure John Logan is a very capable writer - after all, he does have Any Given Sunday and Gladiator on his resume. Forget BATS!, everyone has at least one of those in their closet. Berman, Stewart, and Spiner will help insure that Logan's output is well conceived. If Frakes does indeed direct, he'll also bring his "big *ss space battle" mindset to the screen. No worries... It should be a great ride. After all, these guys are under a lot of pressure from Paramount, as there is a lot at stake where the franchise is concerned! This movie HAS to hit it big with the fans. So instead of guessing what we want, it looks like their actually listening this time. Jeron
posted 11-20-2000 09:02 PM PT (US)

meegle Standard Userer	I think there's a formula to find out how to make a Star Trek film... 1. Space Battles = cheap director + decent composer or 2. A list director - space battles = decent composer or 3. (A variation of #1) Cheap director + space battles = decent composer Star Trek The Motion Picture fits into #2 Wrath of Khan #1 Search for Spock #1 Voyage Home (cheap director - space battles = mediocre composer) Final Frontier #1 Undiscovered Country #1 Generations #1 (ULTRA-cheap director) First Contact #1 (ULTRA-cheap director) Insurrection #1 (ULTRA-cheap director) Fortunately I don't see any way "we" could get screwed out of a good score for Trek (in my opinion Rosenman was a fluke aberration that will hopefully never happen again). Unfortunately I don't see a way we'd get... A List composer + A List director = Space battles C'est la vie I guess... PS: LOL!!!
posted 11-21-2000 07:07 AM PT (US)

Obi Jok Kenobi Non-Standard Userer	Bring back Joel Goldsmith and let him score the entire movie! His cues from First Contact are great and I would love to hear how he handles the entire movie. From what I've read, Frakes isn't attached as director, and they actually want someone else to direct the film.
posted 11-21-2000 04:06 PM PT (US)

meegle Standard Userer	Ah yes, Joel Goldsmith...yet another case of talent SKIPPING a generation.
posted 11-21-2000 07:23 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Meegle...I don't think Junior Goldsmith has composed enough to be labeled talentless. That's just a tad harsh and unwarranted. Actually, the bits I've heard, including Kull the Conqueror are fairly good, much in the vein of David Arnold who seems so revered on this board. And yes I think he could do a fine job on the next Star Trek, any new take on Trek world would be welcome.
posted 11-22-2000 08:09 AM PT (US)

meegle Standard Userer	Harsh smarsh. Actually the only thing Ive heard from him is Stargate SG1 and The Untouchables (I think) and the snippets from First Contact. The First Contact stuff was (to me) SO blatantly NOT Jerry I found it a tad jarring and out of place. FROM THAT I have come to the conclusion that he's no better than (yuk) Dennis McCarthy.
posted 11-22-2000 12:58 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Two scores...and such drastic conclusion! Oh well...you should check out Kull. Other than the small portions of electric guitar (which actually work quite well in the first two tracks) the score is quote entertaining. Now I won't label him great after listening to only one good score, but heh, he's not crap either.
posted 11-22-2000 01:43 PM PT (US)

TV's Frank Standard Userer	I just read this blurb this morning from www.cinescape.com! Sources at Paramount have confirmed to Soundtrack magazine that Jerry Goldsmith is set to score STAR TREK X. I know we all knew this would be set soon, I just didn't think it had been confirmed yet. Can't wait to hear Goldsmith's Romulan themes!
posted 01-23-2002 10:05 AM PT (US)

Kevin Standard Userer	Cool. Jerry started the movie franchise off, and he can finish it. Kevin
posted 01-23-2002 10:24 AM PT (US)

Crono Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: Isn't that more or less what I said above? And Quill! Right on! I think David Arnold would be an absolutely awesome choice. An even better (but highly unlikely) would be a dream team combo of Goldsmith AND Arnold. I've actually had dreams about this... [Message edited by Jeron on 11-20-2000] Why does that not surprise me And of course Arnold could go a better job, I mean god, it's Goldsmith, Arnold blows him away! --Brian
posted 01-23-2002 11:09 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Why does that not surprise me And of course Arnold could go a better job, I mean god, it's Goldsmith, Arnold blows him away! Okay, I normally do not use profanities, but someone's about to get b*tch slapped.
posted 01-23-2002 12:23 PM PT (US)

Crono Standard Userer	::cough:: Yeah right...your not the type to hit someone let alone me. So put that hand back in your jacket pocket, turn on your stereo and come back when you have had lunch --The B Man [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 01-23-2002]
posted 01-23-2002 12:38 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: I mean god, it's Goldsmith, Arnold blows him away! You. Me. The schoolyard. 3pm. Dan
posted 01-23-2002 12:43 PM PT (US)

Kevin Standard Userer	Why not just have MV do it? Or better yet, get some teenie-bopper-bubble-gum music person/group to sing over the whole thing? Kevin
posted 01-23-2002 12:46 PM PT (US)

Crono Standard Userer	Dan, I am not going to fight you because I'd win. Remember, I'm small and can run circles around you before you would say "soundtrack.net." Try again kids! --Mr. Costa PS: Dan, don't you mean packing lot at 3 pm? Nor you or I are not in gradeschool any more. [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 01-23-2002]
posted 01-23-2002 12:48 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Dan, I am not going to fight you because I'd win. Remember, I'm small and can run circles around you before you would say "soundtrack.net." .....right.... I believe the term "puntable" comes to mind.... Dan
posted 01-23-2002 12:50 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Yeah right...your not the type to hit someone let alone me. So put that hand back in your jacket pocket, turn on your stereo and come back when you have had lunch Hmmm, you're outta luck bud. I had lunch almost an hour and a half ago. And you clearly do not know what a btchslap is. Trust me, it's far more painful than a simply "hit", as you call it. Looks like the cards are stacking up against you my friend. Someone with the letters P and K in their name also mentioned something about delivering a blow to your bossom. quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: You. Me. The schoolyard. 3pm.* Dan, like you're one to talk! I very vividly recall the night you equated Jerry Goldsmith to Hilter! LMAO! Jeron PS - I'm proud to be an American. And a Goldsmith freak. Shaun, are you with me?
posted 01-23-2002 12:50 PM PT (US)

Crono Standard Userer	::cough:: Hehe, that's almost funny Dan, but in every logical situation, there is a logical answer. Small guy always wins! I mean its like written in stone somewhere that I'd win, so there. Or you can bring it --B PS: Jer, as for your bi*ch slap being all big and bad, you haven't met my pal BT. [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 01-23-2002]
posted 01-23-2002 12:53 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: *PS: Jer, as for your bich slap being all big and bad, you haven't met my pal BT. Funny, I'm talking to BT online right now... the conversation went like this (copied verbatim from IM): quote: Jeron: hey Jeron: question Jeron:** if i needed you to btchslap brian for me, would you? Jeron:* i mean, you know he needs a good one every now and then. BT: yup Jeron: you would, really? BT: sure Jeron: ah, thanks bud. BT: no prob 'Nuff said, don't ya think Bri guy? LOVE GOLDSMITH OR DIE! Jeron
posted 01-23-2002 01:02 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: I very vividly recall the night you equated Jerry Goldsmith to Hilter! LMAO! Hey - but I had just cause to do that. Anyways, he and I are now kopasedic. So it's all okay. And now, with someone having mentioned Hitler in the context of the argument, it is over. Dan
posted 01-23-2002 01:03 PM PT (US)

Crono Standard Userer	::Brian almost wished he smoked or drank:: Oh **** , well then ::cough:: Guess I'm in for it, oh well, at least my doors are locked. HEHEHAHAHA --Bri Guy PS: And Jer, you can't control me......hehe..err, wait, maybe you can....oh no.... [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 01-23-2002]
posted 01-23-2002 01:04 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Okay, now back to our regularly scheduled program. Goldsmith is doing Trek X. How wonderful! Romulus will finally have melodic representation (I hope!). Anyone have input?
posted 01-23-2002 01:08 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: I mean god, it's Goldsmith, Arnold blows him away! CRUCIO!
posted 01-23-2002 01:23 PM PT (US)

Kirkinson Standard Userer	Brian, buy some cough drops. I don't want to see you hyperventilate when Jeron and/or BT btchslap(s) you. And Jerry scoring Trek X... all I have to say is, HUZZAH!!!* As long as Berman doesn't hire the Three Tenors to do a cover version of "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" for the opening credits. Kirk
posted 01-23-2002 02:55 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Well put, Kirkish one.
posted 01-23-2002 04:18 PM PT (US)

Aaron R. Brown Standard Userer	I liked Stargate, Shaft and TWINE. However I don't believe Arnold is a better composer than Goldsmith. If Arnold is better I don't think that he could write a score that would have a sound that would be right for Star Trek. Remember Goldsmith created the sound that would become what we know as Star Trek film music.
posted 01-23-2002 04:53 PM PT (US)

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