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Topic: Guess who's directing Terminator 3
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Hard Target
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You guys won't believe the news...Can you guess who's directing Terminator 3? It will be David Fincher. Boy is that great news. After rumors of Ridley Scott and Christian Dugay directing finally someone as twisted and fresh as James Cameron to put a new twist on this series. The question is who will score it? Will Howard Shore do it? Of course he's gonna be busy scoring Lord of the Rings, but will he do it. Maybe...My define choice would be...Elliot Goldenthal. This is the project that he has personally dreamed of. Imagine a big orchestra and choir. What excitement!! Can't wait until 2002, when we'll have T3, Matrix 2, Blade 2 and of course, Spiderman coming out.
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posted 11-14-2000 12:15 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron

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T3 would be best served by a Goldenthal or Poledouris score (or perhaps Young). Brad Fiedel's entries never really impressed me (other than the theme). Don Davis could probably whip out something decent, as well. Oh, the possibilities... the possibilities...Jeron
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posted 11-14-2000 12:31 AM PT (US) ip
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Alwin

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Am I the only person who liked Fiedel's T2 score? Sure it sounds like someone's banging on a mailbox throughout, but to me, its good stuff. I especially liked the Tanker Chase cue, and of course, the final track.
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posted 11-14-2000 05:08 AM PT (US) ip
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Will

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I like Fiedel's work too Alwin.But seriously I am having doubts about T3 fairing better than T2 or the original. Probably might end up as a high budget B-grade movie. Just my 2 cents NP Tumbleweeds
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posted 11-14-2000 05:25 AM PT (US) ip
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Greg Bryant

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Not that I can't see Fincher directing T3; Fincher's had his name attached to Rendevous With Rama for several years now, but no action on it. I was hoping that would be next for him. The digital special effects have advanced to the point where it could be done.
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posted 11-14-2000 08:28 AM PT (US) ip
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Quill
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Fincher...sure he's a stylish and capable director...but the Terminator story is grim enough. With Fincher we might not be able to see through the murk onscreen.As long as the theme is maintained, I feel that any number of composers could provide a new and better score for the film.
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posted 11-14-2000 09:16 AM PT (US) ip
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J. Peter Wolk-Laniewski

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Where exactly did you hear this? I know for a fact that Fincher's next project is The Panic Room with Nicole Kidman. There hasn't been a peep about T3 on davidfincher.net, and it's pretty much the closest thing to an official webpage I've been able to find.
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posted 11-14-2000 01:05 PM PT (US) ip
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Vladimir
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Cool news about T3..Because now its really going to happen.There for a while I was thinking it was going to be like Tim Burton's Superman and never happen.As for the composer i agree that Brad Fiedel should be asked back.I have his score to T2 its very interesting in a way.But if the new director wants to go in a different direction I believe the composer should be.....................Trevor Jones
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posted 11-14-2000 02:33 PM PT (US) ip
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A.G

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Trevor Rabin, perhaps? Love him or hate him, I think his style would be suited to a Terminator movie.
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posted 11-14-2000 02:45 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer

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Brad Fiedel did fine 'ice cold' scores for 1 & 2, why shouldn't he do No.3, Personally I didn't find his scores that much of a joy to listen to by themselves....but in the films I thought it all worked wonderfully and that's what counts!
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posted 11-14-2000 05:03 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

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I think Terminator was a good film, although it's been so long since I've seen it that I can't really remember. T2 was horrible, but if Fincher is really going to direct the 3rd installment, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it. Goldenthal would be an excellent choice.
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posted 11-15-2000 06:22 AM PT (US) ip
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Quill
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T2...horrible?? Awfully bold statement...From my understanding T2 is regarded as a modern classic in science fiction, and one of the best sequels of all time, up there with Aliens, Godfather 2, etc.But in the end, everyone is entitled to their own opinion!
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posted 11-15-2000 11:02 AM PT (US) ip
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MWRuger

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I wouldn't say it was horrible, but I would say that T2 is deeply flawed as a SF story. Consider that they introduce a paradox that basically prevents either movie from actually occurring and do nothing to resolve it.SPOILER WARNING>>>>>>>> When The Terminator and Sara prevent the creation of Skynet and the War they effectively obliterate the future that would have allowed the terminators to be created as well as the time travel that allowed them to prevent the future that created them. WHEW!! This is a problem with Time Travel stories in general. When you reverse the law of causality, you are going to create a logic logjam! There are ways to work around it, standard theories that writer’s use. Some people ascribe to the Many Worlds theory of time travel and believe that a parallel world is created by the actions of the time traveler. Characters in T2 would then live in the branched world where those events never happened. Others argue for the immutability of Space-Time. No matter what the characters in T2 do, nothing can change it. Skynet will still be built and the war will occur no matter what. In this view, even the people are unimportant. If John Connors had been killed, another would have taken his role and led the resistance. The worst part of this poor writing technique is that it could have been avoided. With those voiceovers they could easily have told us which of these possibilities were likely. They spend enough time telling us how bleak everything is, but little or no time on how the major plot device works. That is what makes it bad SF. It is internally inconsistent. In my view, it does not rank with Godfather 2 or Aliens because those movies were logical extensions of the worlds they conveyed. It is much easier to suspend disbelief when the characters and plots are consistent. I can believe Michael Corleone killing his own brother. I could not believe that he somehow stops Cuba from falling to the Communists or that he is elected senator. It is a matter of how much I am asked to swallow. T2 wants me to take BIG gulps.
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posted 11-15-2000 01:36 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar

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The original The Terminator was pure drive in action trash, but WOW! it was done with panache; great movie. T2 was overblown and lame, it pales in comparison. However, Brad Fiedel's score worked perfectly in both movies.David Fincher is one of only a handful of directors by now I'm looking forward to see just about anything he's directing, so whether it will be T3 or Rendezvous with Rhama or The Panic Room. Especially Rhama sounds like it could have a lot of potential, though...
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posted 11-15-2000 02:06 PM PT (US) ip
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Quill
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Wow...I haven't read that much analysis since my last quantum mechanics class. I think they said it best in Austin Powers on this very subject..."Austin, I suggest you enjoy yourself...that goes for you all too."
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posted 11-15-2000 03:20 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig

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I like good action movies, but they need to show a little substance. T2 was just dumb. And that kid was very annoying.I LIKED Hollow Man, IMHO the bit of story there was in the first half of the movie was enough to make it a thrilling action flick, even though it had several major goofs at the end. I'd prefer it over most Schwarzenegger movies (Total Recall is a major exception). NP: Edvard Grieg: Peer Gynt Suite #1 (Berlin Philharmonic, Herbert von Karajan)
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posted 11-15-2000 04:58 PM PT (US) ip
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Chris Kinsinger

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How EMBARRASSING!Marian...you said: "T2 was just dumb. And that kid was very annoying." THAT KID is MY NEPHEW, Eddie Furlong! Marian, he happens to ADORE YOU, in fact he helped me write the "Marian & Jerry" strip! He told all of his friends at school that he has a special friend who lives in Austria! IN FACT, he's doing his entire Term Paper on Austria because of YOU, Marian! Oh, my. NOW what will I tell him?
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posted 11-15-2000 08:26 PM PT (US) ip
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MWRuger

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Sorry. It just seems to me that with that much money they could have hired a few writers to beat some of the plot holes into submission. I think it is our duty to demand better written movies or the tide of crap will never stop. (You know, I saw Soapdish the same day that I saw T2 and even it had fewer holes in it and it involved, a Sex Change, An adopted daughter and a jilted lover was the father of the daughter who really the neice of the mother.... Oh never mind. You get the point!)
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posted 11-15-2000 09:41 PM PT (US) ip
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Racerprose

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There has been no offical director chosen for T3. Just rumours at this point.... -Racerprose
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posted 11-16-2000 05:05 PM PT (US) ip
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ActionGuy

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hmmmm.. i think it would be interesting to have howard shore score it. If he does a good job on Lord of the Rings, then I'm all for it. Possibly Fidel should come back, he got the job done on T1 and T2 i thought, it seems to fit the film very well. But being the Zimmer junky i am, it might be interesting to see what he could do with it. Well theres my 2 cents. Rich D. NP - Total Recall Cant wait for the expanded release... the track list looks great!
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posted 11-18-2000 12:35 AM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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MY take on T2 was that Cameron was basically remaking the first film, with all the special effects he couldn't afford (and hadn't yet been invented). I was deeply disappointed in it, although it has certain elements to recommend it.I doubt David Fincher will actually make T3, but I'd take him over a lot of the other likely candidates. As far as the score, whoever inherits the job (including, possibly, Fiedel) will probably be expected to include, at least, Fiedel's percussive Terminator riff, which somewhat defines the character. Real question: Should this movie be made AT ALL? (yeah, like they'd listen to me)
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posted 11-18-2000 11:46 AM PT (US) ip
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André Lux

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I agree with Rocco. T2 is just a remake of the first one, now with Arnold doing the good guy because at that time he tought he shouldn't play a villain...The movie is not bad, it's just exaggerated and repetitive. Just an efx tour de force with no consistence or originality. And of course, that embarrassing score (read: noise) courtesy of Brad Fiedel...
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posted 11-18-2000 02:26 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer

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An O.K. flick but man I just hated all that 'uncle bob' stuff!
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posted 11-18-2000 07:12 PM PT (US) ip
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DeadPoet
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It looks like director John McTiernan is in talks to direct it now. Of course, this is still speculation and rumor (much like Fincher directing it), but we'll see what comes of it.--Jason S.
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posted 11-21-2000 10:57 AM PT (US) ip
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SEBULBA

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McTiernan is in fact in negotiations right now per the Daily Variety, which for those of you who don't know is the industry magazine along with the Hollywood Reporter, so it is very reliable.
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posted 11-21-2000 02:05 PM PT (US) ip
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