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    Topic:   Alphabetical Filing question

     Camillu
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    How many of you have a composer-sorted CD library that starts with Godzilla and ends with The Thin Red Line?

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    posted 11-13-2000 10:59 AM PT (US)     

     BobaMike
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    well, I only have about 200 cds so its not too hard to organize. I do mine by cd title, so it starts with Air Force One and ends with The Young Indiana Jones cds.

    I have a very small bedroom here at school and I filled my 200 cd spinning tower...I have no idea what to put my cds in next. I thought about shelving unit, but I don't have any free walls...any ideas?

    BobaMike

    np: The Shadow- Goldsmith. I love this score

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    posted 11-13-2000 11:41 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    How about another tower?

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    posted 11-13-2000 12:52 PM PT (US)     

     BobaMike
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    not enough room, sadly...
    my room is very very small

    BobaMike

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    posted 11-13-2000 06:20 PM PT (US)     

     SBD
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    I started that a few weeks ago, except mine goes from The Specialist to Radio Flyer.

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    posted 11-14-2000 06:17 AM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    ...Then where do you put titles that begin with numbers?

    (i.e., "12th Night", "13th Warrior", "1492", "1941", "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea"....etc.)

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    posted 11-14-2000 10:31 AM PT (US)     

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    I order it by title as well; it's easier for other people to find stuff in my racks that way.

    For numbered titles, I use the number as though it were spelled out. For foreign film titles, I file it under the name of the film translated into English (i.e. Tous le matins de la monde is filed as All the Mornings of the World). That is a bit hairy sometimes. I think I might change it (La Femme Nikita is still under "f").

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    posted 11-14-2000 11:24 AM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    I just purchased a 300-disc changer to serve as my filing system. I sort strictly by composer...although alphabetical might have been a sensical thing to do.

    I guess titles that start with numbers would be first...I think that's the standard filing process.

    As it goes, I think I start with Apollo13...and the end just keeps changing with each new disc!

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    posted 11-14-2000 11:40 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    SBD - No Arnold? No Thin Red Line?

    I know, I know, different opinions and tastes...

    NP - Heaven and Earth - Kitaro

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    posted 11-14-2000 11:45 AM PT (US)     

     jonathan_little
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    My sorting system is a bit weird.

    I sort albums by composer and then by year of the film. That way if I want to listen to a late 60's Goldsmith disc I can pick up the In Like Flint album, which is someplace near The Blue Max and The Sand Pebbles.

    If a disc has two scores (such as Capricorn One/Outland), I sort it by the score that I like the most (in this case, Capricorn One).

    I don't think this would be a good system for larger collections.

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    posted 11-14-2000 11:59 AM PT (US)     

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    Mine starts with A BRIDGE TOO FAR (John Addison) and ends with (yes indeed!) THE THIN RED LINE (Hans Zimmer).

    I put numerical cds above alphabetical ones, and my "sorting" doesn't include compilation albums, song-based soundtracks, or misc. CDs that I have.

    Of course, I have over 1400 CDs, so it was tough enough to get it organized by composer - let alone any other way!

    Dan

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    posted 11-14-2000 12:17 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    Right....and foreign articles, one might actually skip, i.e., "(La) Femme Nikita", "(La) Fille de D'Artagnan", "(Das)Boot"

    ...or foreign edition of English titles, i.e., "Nom de la Rose", "Das Letze Einhorn"....

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    posted 11-14-2000 02:16 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Mine is sorted by composer and then sub-sorted by title. So if I wanted Williams' score to Always, I would go down the line to Williams, and then find Always (probably) first.

    Kevin

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    posted 11-14-2000 02:58 PM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Angela's ashes is at present my first Williams CD on the shelf.

    But I can't wait to replace it with AI.

    NP - The World is not Enough - Arnold

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    posted 11-16-2000 10:26 AM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    Here's something i've been experimenting with (on spreadsheet, at least)...

    Organizational example as follows:
    Williams, John
    1979 1941
    1971 Jane Eyre
    1972 Paper Chase/The Poseidon Adventure
    1974 Cowboys, The
    1975 Eiger Sanction, The
    1975 Jaws (25th Anniversary Ed.)
    1976 Midway
    1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind

    and so forth...you get the idea.
    organization By Year works kind of nicely for prolific composers (or just for composers who have been around for a long time...), and it can allow for purchasing out-of-sequence releases, and re-released editions (e.g., "Jaws: 25th Anniversary Edition"), since the year doesn't really change.

    Glitches/Solutions:
    1. The Joel McNeely factor - Recent Scottish re-recordings of scores (and the like.) Just go back to original composition date.

    2. The Alex North/2001 factor - Jerry Goldsmith's re-recording of an unused score several years after the fact. Go back to film release date.

    3. The Legend factor - Unused scores in general. Yeah, it' rare, but sometimes music slips through the cracks, and we get those diamonds in the rough like Bernstein's "Last Man Standing" and Zimmer's "K2"....again, go back to film release date.

    The fact that this discussion is even taking place probably seems a little...odd. I remember working on weekends at the bookstore with kids coming in for Pokemon tournements with their portfolios of countless cards, and one might wonder how such cards are arranged. Well--one with an interest in such might wonder...I imagine it's the same for film score afficianados...

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    posted 11-16-2000 01:49 PM PT (US)     

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    Real simple (and anal): A-Z by composer, year of composition or release within each composer block. Of course, with tapes and compilations it gets trickier.

    NP: Objective Burma (Franz Waxman)

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    posted 11-17-2000 08:56 PM PT (US)     

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    My organization is REALLY anal. I have tried several different methods. I first started out with those case logic towers that "stack" the cd's horizontally and basically on top of each other. I started at the top of the tower at "A" and filed them alph. from that point on.
    It was a huge pain if I added a cd that started with ABC or D in the title, cause then I would have to shift ALL my cd's down the tower, and then add my new ones. It was a REAL pain if I 'miscounted' and had to do it all over again!!
    I then moved up to the Verticall shelving units that you can put together yourself (store 200 cd's). These were good, cause I'd just slide the cd's around when I added new ones. I outgrew all FIVE of those (not bragging..)
    I now bought a spinning cd rack that holds 1500 cd's. It cost me about $250 but it was worth EVERY penny. I had to put it together myself, which was okay, but it dosen't take up much room and it fits a bugger-full of cd's!!! Which might make some peoples' lives easier if they don't have much space (as myself).

    Now for organizing and inventoring.. i use a program called "Music Collector" (used to be called Keep It Compact, but they changed their name). They are located at www.collectorz.com
    The system holds any number of cd's, and you can list them by:
    Composer
    Title
    or
    Genre
    then you can SUBlist them by:
    (If under composer) Title
    and (most importantly to me) year

    So if I wanted to check my inventory and wanted to go through cd by cd, I can choose "no folders" and it'll list ALL my cd's (in whichever category I set it up in..soundtracks, rock/pop, classical..etc..) in alph. order.

    Or, if I wanted to look at all the composers of music that I own cd's to, I click on "By Artist" and it'll list all the composers. I can then click on any comp. name and it'll list what cd's I have by that composer, in alph. order, I can THEN click on year and it'll list them in the year they were made.

    It's a really GREAT program! I fully reccomend it!!

    Phheeww.....

    Okay, so you all know my list starts with:

    "The 13th Warrior" - Goldsmith (Boot)
    and ends with
    "Younger and Younger" - Zimmer
    with 1024 cd's in between!!

    Take care, and keep listening..

    NP: JFK (Williams)

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    posted 11-21-2000 08:20 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    I also do it alphabetical by composer & then by title. But I also arrange my collection into three groups - scores, songs, & classical. So my scores collection goes from Plunkett & Macleane (Armstrong) to Thin Red Line (Zimmer). Songs go from The Space Between Us (Armstrong) to Honest (Various - hey, I won it, OK!). And Classical from Duke Bluebeards' Castle (Bartok) to Summon the Heroes (Williams). How thrilling.


    np FSOL - Dead Cities

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    posted 11-21-2000 09:21 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, my entire CD collection works out something like this...

    Film and TV
    Alphabetical by title.
    In the case of more than one score on a disc, whichever score comes first.
    Film and TV Composers
    Alphabetical by name.
    Film and TV Collections
    Alphabetical by title.
    Classical Composers
    Alphabetical by name.
    Classical Collections
    Alphabetical by title.
    Pop, Rock and Soul
    Alphabetical by name/band.
    Jazz
    Alphabetical by artist.
    Miscellaneous
    Here's where pretty much everything else ends up. It's not all that organized, actually. It took me two weeks to alphabetize my film music collection alone (I have a lot of albums).

    There's also another small section where I keep old versions of albums that are made obsolete by newer releases only (i.e. both versions of E.T. appear in the main section, but only one version of Planet of the Apes.

    Although I would love to have my collection organized by composer, I have found this just as easy. It's not like I have an album in my collection whose composer I'm not aware of, after all...

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    posted 11-22-2000 09:10 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kevin:
    Mine is sorted by composer and then sub-sorted by title. So if I wanted Williams' score to Always, I would go down the line to Williams, and then find Always (probably) first.

    Kevin


    That's how I do mine as well. I do have extra sections for the misc. and various titles, that don't have a particular composer and whatnot. Such as the compilations, song compilations and titles I don't know who composed it. Hey it happens!

    I also use several different collection lists as well, for keeping track of my collection. Though, Microsoft Access is the main one I am currently updating. As always, "with me at least" I get tired of keeping the collection one way, for long. So, I will usually change it every few years. I am in the middle of doing so again, actually!

    And lastly, my collection starts with, Masamichi Amano's "Giant Robo Volume VII". It also ends with, Richie Zito's "Project A-ko". Both are anime CD'. This is not counting the other compilations and misc. discs. Otherwise the collection ends with an bunch of Yanni discs!

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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