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    Topic:   If soundtrack prices went up...

     Justin
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    I don't remember if this question has been asked before, but I was wondering this...If soundtrack prices went up to about 25-30 dollars but contained all the music in the film, would it be worth it to you to purchase the CD? I can tell you right now...I WOULD BE FIRST IN LINE TO PICK UP THOSE SCORES

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    posted 11-09-2000 03:29 PM PT (US)     

     logied
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    You are all set, it is called a extented bootleg and
    you can pay $40. if you want to and know one
    who made the music will make a dime. You can
    even have a CDR for that money.
    As it is we pay 19.95 or more for a good
    copy of soundtracks and scores, who else does
    that or would do that?

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    posted 11-09-2000 03:41 PM PT (US)     

     Justin
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    No no no my friend. I am well aware of bootlegs, extended releases and complete scores. I am talking about an actual ligit release that everyone will benefit from. You wouldn't have to worry about finding all the music or all these different types of CD releases. It is a set price and a set date that the score will come out. BOOM, now that is the idea.

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    posted 11-09-2000 05:07 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    ..........and those discs would be made in EXTREMELY limited quantities, as they would be EXTREMELY expensive to pull together (and the return would be minimal). I think we can realistically say that the produced quantities would be so limited, not everyone (that would want a copy) would get a copy. Can anyone validate me? Or do I just need to wait around until Shaun shows up and kicks my butt?

    [Message edited by Jeron on 11-09-2000]

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    posted 11-09-2000 05:36 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I would pay this price for scores that I really want, but I probably wouldn't go out and buy so many Williams, and particularly Goldsmith, CDs unheard, just trusting the composer.

    For example, I would happily pay 40, maybe even 50 dollars for a complete, decent release of Phantom Menace. But this price is really reserved for "very good" scores. 25-30 would be ok for very good releases of "really good" scores.

    Making 25-30 dollars the regular soundtrack album price would make me go bankrupt.

    NP: Rambo 3 (Jerry Goldsmith)

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    posted 11-09-2000 05:52 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    soundtrack prices need to come down.

    distributors charge out the butt for the CDs. The labels charge the distributors out the butt to ship them TO the distributor...and the distributor passes it on to the store who pass it on to you, the consumer

    it's a vicious cycle.

    In a perfect world, with no middle man, I think we could realistically pay only $10, if not less, for a CD. Hell it only costs, what? -- $2 to manufacture a CD?

    and you can also thank orchestral unions, too.

    NP -- Logan's Run, Goldsmythe

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    posted 11-09-2000 06:11 PM PT (US)     

     Racerprose
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    I am already paying $20-$25 dollars for a normal score release.

    When I got ID4-Expanded it cost me $50 somewhat dollars.

    One of the many joys of living in Canada....

    -Racerprose

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    posted 11-09-2000 06:33 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    Brand new score CD's in England cost £14 - £15, that's about $25 thereabouts!

    Go figure!!

    Marian, Thor, How much for you.

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    posted 11-09-2000 06:34 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Oh, come on, guys. You can say "ass". We're all adults here.

    Shaun

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    posted 11-09-2000 06:54 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    ass

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    posted 11-09-2000 06:56 PM PT (US)     

     Alwin
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    Racerprose, you live in Canada? Whereabouts?

    I second your points regarding the CDs. Actually, if the scores are on a major label such as Sony, they are manufactured in Canada, thus they are $14.99-19.99.

    However, imports such as the Varese label CDs are the wallet-busters; I often pay $22.49, just because of the import factor.


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    posted 11-09-2000 06:57 PM PT (US)     

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    "Racerprose, you live in Canada? Whereabouts?
    I second your points regarding the CDs. Actually, if the scores are on a major label such as Sony, they are manufactured in Canada, thus they are $14.99-19.99.

    However, imports such as the Varese label CDs are the wallet-busters; I often pay $22.49, just because of the import factor."


    Greetings,

    I order most of my scores of the internet so I always pay the import fees . Luckly, tax is not included....

    -Racerprose

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    posted 11-09-2000 07:10 PM PT (US)     

     Alwin
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    Racerprose, maybe you could use HMV.com for your purchases. Their prices are the absolute best you will find in Canada. If you are a Chapters 1 card member, use Chapters.ca for "recent" releases - 10% off.

    I live in Toronto and Thunder Bay, and remember: HMV has free shipping eclusively for us Canadians. Until our dollar stablizes (not very likely), buy from a Canadian site.


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    posted 11-09-2000 07:27 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:

    I am already paying $20-$25 dollars for a normal score release.
    When I got ID4-Expanded it cost me $50 somewhat dollars.
    One of the many joys of living in Canada....
    -Racerprose

    I hear you brother. Especially these days.
    $1 USD = 0.64 CAN
    AAAH!

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    However, imports such as the Varese label CDs are the wallet-busters; I often pay $22.49, just because of the import factor.

    Why do I have a feeling you shop where I do? http://www.hmv.com

    Which is still better than the prices they have in stores. The HMV store where I live has Varèse CD's at $23.99CAN. Used to be $21.99 a few years back. And let's not even talk about Hollywood Records CD's which run at $29.99CAN if they're not manufactured by Universal in Canada.

    To answer the main question of this topic: No. I would not pay that much for all soundtracks. Maybe the ones I really like.

    But just like Marian, I wouldn't buy so much stuff unheard (as I do now).
    And my wallet would be much emptier. Plus I'd be able to hear a lot less music.

    NP: Greatest Story Ever Told (Alfred Newman) *****

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    posted 11-09-2000 07:32 PM PT (US)     

     Alwin
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    Hey, fellow Canucks!

    If you can shop at the 333 Yonge Street Toronto Superstore, that location's prices would be the lowest, in terms of retail pricing. In Thunder Bay, I pay about a $4-5 difference, and often, the staff have to order from the supplier due to zero demand for movie scores.

    We do get screwed over Varese CDs, and certain Hollywood Records. The Patriot did come in at $17.99. Also, Polygram used to manufacture Canadian versions of Hollywood Records titles (The Rock, Crimson Tide, etc).


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    posted 11-09-2000 07:38 PM PT (US)     

     wistiti
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    I miss polygram. they used to do good stuff. universal only serves us crap. maybe now vivendi will lift the quality of their products. but if the old team heads the music division, they'll probably just give us the same bad stuff over again.

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    posted 11-09-2000 07:50 PM PT (US)     

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    I remember when CD's came out there was a big report on how much cheaper they were to produce than vinyl, and the prices should drop a few dollars (at the time, even a double-disc LP was ~$13). Well, they didn't really.

    And a few years ago, there was a lawsuit settled, and the news media said that the prices should go down. Suprise! They didn't. The record companies on down want the big profit at the expence of the customer.

    If CD's went up to $25, I'd quit buying them. The new ones are too expensive now.

    Kevin


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    posted 11-09-2000 09:21 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Austrian soundtrack prices are usually ATS 220-250, that amounts to about USD 14-15. Rather cheap, actually, but keep in mind that these are the same prices as 5 years ago, before the Euro and it's bad USD conversion rate. At that time, the same ATS 220-250 were about USD 22-25. That's why it used to pay to order CDs online, but now I only do it for stuff I can't find in local stores.

    At least one store has already begun to raise CD prices slightly because of this. Most haven't yet, and I hope they won't.

    NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #2 (National Symphony Orchestra of Ireland, Georg Tintnet)

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    posted 11-10-2000 04:38 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Magnolia was the most recent full-price off-the-shelf CD I bought.

    It cost me Lm 7.50, which is about $16.80

    When I buy CDs off the Internet, they usually cost less with shipping included. And there's more choice. But I have to wait 10-20 days.

    NP - Who framed Roger Rabbit? I wonder...

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    posted 11-10-2000 10:32 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    I would like to think people have already quit buying CDs at <gasp> the suggested retail price of $18.97. All the major labels are suggesting stores carry this price tag for their newest product - it's really unbelievable. Too bad the music industry actually saw huge gains in record sales this past year - this only indicates to the labels that "$18.97" is fine, and we'll see them slowly increase the SRP even more over the next year.

    I wish Napster really did affect sales in a negative way, to the point were the music industry would be forced to reduce the average CD price to 11 or 12 bucks. Just watch what will happen to the number of units they sell if they had to do this. Through the roof! People don't want to buy a CD for $18.97, but they have NOOOO problems buying at $11.97 or $12.97. It's insane.


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    posted 11-10-2000 10:43 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Racerprose:
    I am already paying $20-$25 dollars for a normal score release.

    When I got ID4-Expanded it cost me $50 somewhat dollars.

    One of the many joys of living in Canada....


    That's funny. I live in the US, and buy CDs from Canada! mymusic.com has great prices.

    I'd like to see music released on DVD-V. A DVD can hold about 10 hours of PCM or 50-100 hours of dolby digital. Maybe it wouldn't work for scores (because of licensing fees, copyright fees, etc), but certainly for something like a Beethoven symphony set. I have suggested this approach to Naxos.


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    posted 11-10-2000 11:07 AM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, funny for you maybe.

    Try living in Canada and getting promos from the US at 19.99USD. And if you get them from Intrada, Footlight or SuperCollector, they actually put the amount you paid for the CD on the cute little green label I'd like to rip off the package.

    So when the package arrives there's $5CAN to pay for duty services plus the 7%GST, plus (at least in my case) the 7.5%QST on the amout of the purchase ($19.99, converted into canadian dollars, these days at 64cents).

    That is NOT funny.

    (Sorry but I'm pissed. NAFTA and free trade my ass. To hell with it. It doesn't do anything for inter-country purchases.)

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    posted 11-10-2000 11:50 AM PT (US)     

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    Films are far and few between where the original score left out of the initial release warrants $40...come on that's 2 DVDs!

    Way back when I payed $30 (to someone in Canada no less) for Come See the Paradise...that was painful enough (but worth it!)

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