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    Topic:   "Red Planet" (Final) Offical Track Listings

     Crono/Kyp
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    Varese, please pick this one up. (Unless those three tracks are all 10 minutes long)

    Offical Track Listings:
    1. The Tower That Ate People - Peter Gabriel
    2. The Inferno - Emma Shapplin
    3. A Thousand Years - Sting
    4. Mars Red Planet - Graeme Revell
    5. The Fifth Heaven - Emma Shapplin
    6. MontokPoint - Strange Cargo
    7. Canto XXX - Emma Shaplin
    8. Alone - Graeme Revell
    9. Dante’s Eternal Flame - Melissa Kaplan & Graeme Revell
    10. Crash Landing - Graeme Revell
    11. The Tower that Ate People - Peter Gabriel (Remix)
    12. When The World is Running Down (You Can't Go Wrong) - Different Gear Vs. The Police

    --Kyp
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    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 10-23-2000]

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    posted 10-23-2000 09:29 AM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    Yeah, this freakin' album makes sense!

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    posted 10-23-2000 05:11 PM PT (US)     

     Mark Hatfield
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    It is starting to feel like we're NEVER going to get a decent release for a Revell score!

    Both TITAN A.E. and PITCH BLACK deserved score-only CD's.

    (sigh)

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    posted 10-24-2000 02:06 AM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    The point to me is what do these songs even have to do with the movie? Where are they in the movie? Are they even IN the movie?

    I can understand the older song albums because the songs were somewhere in the movie, such as being heard played on the car radio; and some were even done well, such as Forrest Gump, Goodfellas, Blues Brothers, American Graffiti. But lately it's "songs inspired by" and the songs appear NOWHERE in the movie.

    Are people such boneheads that the record album companies think they will fall for this scam and buy anything even remotely associated with the film? What happens with the next Star Wars album? Will Williams be ignored in favor of the flavor groups of the moment?

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    posted 10-26-2000 11:50 AM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    What's really confusing is why "A Thousand Years" by Sting is on the disc. Inspired by or not, this song has NOTHING to do with anything in the movie (can't call this piece of **** a film). Cheapened as it is now by its inclusion on such a destined-for-the-K-Mart-$5.99-bin disc, it's still a great song.

    Shaun

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    posted 10-26-2000 10:10 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    Shaun,

    Have you seen the film? how do you know that the Sting song has no CONTEXT in the film, and therefore doesn't belong on the soundtrack.

    Folks, I have the soundtrack. It's a mixed bag, but the truth of the matter is that the track listing is not entirely clear. All of the Emma Shapplin tracks are WRITTEN by Revell, but PERFORMED by her. So truth be told, of the 12 tracks on the album, 7 of them are original tracks by Revell.

    And that totals about 30 minutes of original Revell music. So what's the problem with this album again?

    Dan (dsg@soundtrack.net)
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    posted 11-01-2000 10:17 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    From what I understand of "the concerns," an album with 30 minutes of original music is not to appetizing to begin with. Witness threads complaining about Varese's famous running time. In this particular case, however, people who like Revell's score material will be upset, because there are vocals on top of the original music. For the score fan, this is not acceptable... unless, of course, they soaked up James Horner's music in the Celine Dion song (which they didn't have to, because there was 800 some-odd minutes of score elsewhere on the album).

    People want Revell's score music - that's the point.

    Now, if this Red Planet album delivers all the music from the film, great, but most people are doubting this is the case.

    How many score-only minutes are on the album? I think that will tell you why certain people are upset with it.

    Just some ideas to think about. It's a very interesting thought dynamic. No one's right, no one's wrong, it's just personal preference.

    Peter

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    posted 11-01-2000 11:10 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    Peter, are you serious??

    Revell's music, that he wrote, was MEANT to have vocals on top. That _IS_ the score. It just happens to be performed by Emma Shapplin.

    What you're doing is tantamount to complaining about Sissel's vocals (albeit "oohs") on TITANIC. People want Revell's score music. And they get 30 minutes of it.

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    posted 11-01-2000 02:11 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Heck if there are 30min of score, Im there! Does anyone have the track times for the album?

    --Kyp
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    NP: Chrono Cross OST

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 11-01-2000]

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    posted 11-01-2000 02:35 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    We're obviously passing each other by in the night.

    If we define our terms, I think we'll finally be on the same field. Here's my definition:

    Vocals: Songs. As suggested by my analogy to Celine Dion, not Sissel.

    If your term for "vocal" is the same thing as what Sissel is to Titanic and Lisa Gerrard is to Gladiator, then you are right, everything with Shaplin's name _is_ essentially Revell's score.

    Still, the problem, to answer your question, is that there are only 30 minutes of Revell's score on the disc, when there may well be a lot more in the film. That was the complaint from the very beginning of the thread.

    For what it's worth.

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    posted 11-01-2000 02:37 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    And for some people, 30 minutes is fine. For others, it may not be decent enough!

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    posted 11-01-2000 02:40 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    Crono/Kyp,
    http://www.soundtrack.net/soundtracks/database/?id=2644

    (i'm not going to bother formatting this text - so if you want, click on the link above)

    1.
    "The Tower That Ate People" - Peter Gabriel
    4:05


    2.
    "The Inferno" - Emma Shapplin
    4:31


    3.
    "A Thousand Years" - Sting
    5:57


    4.
    "Mars Red Planet" - Graeme Revell
    3:26


    5.
    "The Fifth Heaven" - Emma Shapplin
    4:53


    6.
    "MontokPoint" - Strange Cargo
    7:14


    7.
    "Canto XXX" - Emma Shapplin
    5:11


    8.
    "Alone" - Graeme Revell
    2:13


    9.
    "Dante's Eternal Flame" - Melissa Kaplan and Graeme Revell
    3:40


    10.
    "Crash Landing" - Graeme Revell
    5:14


    11.
    "The Tower That Ate People (Remix)" - Peter Gabriel
    6:27


    12.
    "When The World Is Running Down (You Can't Go Wrong)" - Different Gears Vs. The Police
    3:35


    Total Time:
    56:26

    Dan (dsg@soundtrack.net)
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    posted 11-01-2000 02:56 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Well, as an album I really like it. The score tracks with Emma Shapplin, are pretty much new-age songs, "Now We Are Free" from Gladitor and Sarah Brightman's colaborations with Delerium for example. Nothing like Sissel from Titanic.
    The only way I can see this working in the movie is if alot of the movie was shot like a music video.

    But anyway on it's own I think it's great

    NP- Red Planet ****/*****

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    posted 11-01-2000 09:01 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Dan wrote this:

    Have you seen the film? how do you know that the Sting song has no CONTEXT in the film, and therefore doesn't belong on the soundtrack.


    Dan,
    Have YOU seen the film? I'd love to hear how this song fits in a film about Mars (of course, as with Mission To Mars, it's not about Mars, it's about the characters, right?). Get back to me when you see it. Honestly.

    Shaun


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    posted 11-01-2000 10:06 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    Shaun wrote:
    > Have YOU seen the film? I'd love to hear
    > how this song fits in a film about Mars
    > (of course, as with Mission To Mars, it's
    > not about Mars, it's about the characters,
    > right?). Get back to me when you see it.
    > Honestly.

    I never said that I saw the film. I'm just saying that it's a bit presumptuous to state whether or not a song fits in the film without having seen it.

    IF I see the film (I might go see CHARLIE'S ANGELS again, since it was a fun movie and nicer to look at, and I'd rather spend $ on that than RED PLANET) then I'll let you know my thoughts on the song.

    Dan (dsg@soundtrack.net)
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    posted 11-01-2000 10:18 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Cool. Let me know.

    Shaun

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    posted 11-02-2000 12:04 PM PT (US)     
     

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