Can anyone help, please.

"Sanguis bibimus" (miswritten/mispronounced "bebimus" by both text and choir): "We have drunk the blood"

"Corpus edimus" -- "We have eaten the body"

"Tolle corpus" -- "Raise the body"

"Satani" -- figure it out

"Ave" -- "hail"

and repeat.

Goldsmith didn't know Latin, the lyrics were supplied by the British choral director he was working with. Can't remember his name.

I always wondered why Lionel Newman conducted the OMEN trilogy, and ALIEN and THE SAND PEBBLES as well. Sure, they were all Fox films, and Newman was in charge of Fox's music department at the time, but why didn't Goldsmith do it? It's a puzzle.

Newman also tracked Goldsmith's OMEN throughout the "very special" Satanic episode of TRAPPER JOHN M.D. in the early 80s. Perhaps because of the musicians' strike? I'm not sure how that dovetailed.

NP: oh, why not THE OMEN complete

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Originally posted by H Rocco:
NP: oh, why not THE OMEN complete

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Because it reminds me that I don't have it? Why isn't the iso score from the laserdisc on the DVD, too!

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!

Poor old Marian. Did I ever mention to you something about a concert or two in Detroit?

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Originally posted by H Rocco:
I always wondered why Lionel Newman conducted the OMEN trilogy, and ALIEN and THE SAND PEBBLES as well. Sure, they were all Fox films, and Newman was in charge of Fox's music department at the time, but why didn't Goldsmith do it? It's a puzzle.

[Message edited by H Rocco on 10-21-2000]

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As far as I know, Newmann was under contract with 20th Century Fox and his name was to be listed as conductor. Again, as far as I know, Goldsmith actually conducted one of these (if not even more) but due to the contract Newmann had, his name went up instead.

Scott

Perhaps the greater significance is that the latter four -- the OMENs and ALIEN -- were all horror movies, and perhaps Goldsmith was sufficiently disturbed by the images that he didn't want to have to conduct to them. He's said when he conducts the ALIEN theme in concert how scary the movie was to him. (As was the experience, of course, of working with Ridley Scott and having most of his stuff switched around and/or removed. I doubt he was as miserable on the OMENs, though, since he did agree to do the sequels.)

On the other hand, if it's possible to detect a conductor's touch, those four horror scores sound VERY Goldsmithian. It could well be that he did them. I can't imagine why he didn't except to give his buddy Lionel Newman some kind of tax break.

No, in fact they are not that evil. One major advantage of the new deluxe edition of The Final Conflict is that you can actually hear what they're singing.

Here are the main lyrics:

Ad Jesum dominum,
Ad Jesum Christum,
Ad Jesum Deum,
Ad Jesum Nazarenum,
Ave (more like A-a-a-ve) Satani.

To Jesus, the/our Lord,
To Jesus Christ,
To Jesus, our God,
To Jesus of Nazareth,
Hail Satan.

BTW, the subsequent tracks also use "ad versum Christum" - to the ANTIchrist.

Hope this helps,
Marko

I will find myself constently singing them to myself sometimes. But I don't say the 'Ave Satani' part. LOL.

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There IS an example of Goldsmith ceding his conductor credit because of contractual obligations: WILD ROVERS is credited to National Philharmonic leader Sydney Sax, but it was in fact Goldsmith.

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