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    Topic:   Akira Ifukube's Best Movie Songs

     Lou Goldberg
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    With all this talk about Ifukube that finds its way into various posts, I've become curious and have started to hunt down some of these CDs myself. One neat collection is the following one:

    A 2 CD set known as Akira Ifukube Best Movie Songs (which of course hasn't a song on it being all film music) is available from both Tower Records and CD Connection for a price in the upper 30s lower 40s. It is on King Records from Japan (KICC-296/7). These are re-recorded cues and suites from Ifukube scores going as far back as 1947. The sound is superb and the performances are fine, some cues catching the original tracks better than others, but all passable.

    Ifukube is best known for the Toho monster films and music from Godzilla and Monster Zero are here as is an energetic (but slightly off) version of the theme from the Maijin films. Still, this collection seems to emphasize Ifukube's non-monster scores: 5 cues from the wonderful score to To the End of the Silver Mountains, the finale to Kurosawa's The Quiet Duel, suites from Joseph Von Sternberg's The Saga of Anatahan and Kon Ichikawa's The Burmese Harp, and titles from The Little Prince and the 8-Headed Dragon that H Rocco mentions frequently in his posts.

    There are occasional bursts of violence and the familiar Toho march, but these CDs are mostly music from the slower, more quiet, stoic, elegaic, nobly tragic side to Ifukube's sound.

    I haven't figured out who conducted it, but it is a solid introduction to music by Ifukube if you were looking for one to put next to GNP Crescendo's Best of Godzilla Volumes 1 & 2.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 10-21-2000]

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    posted 10-21-2000 12:45 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    FIVE CUES from THE END OF THE SILVER MOUNTAINS?????

    I'm sold!

    coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

    P.S. Mommy Joan, this might be the perfect intro CD for you!

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    posted 10-21-2000 07:58 AM PT (US)     

     Luscious Lazlo
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    In the Stravinsky-Craft conversations, Igor said he was impressed by the tonal subtlety of the Japanese flute.

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    posted 10-21-2000 09:33 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    I've been debating this now that some more Ifukube CDs have found their way to me. A collection called the Melodious Compile runs 77 minutes and is available from Tower and Footlight for about the same price as the King record. It's original tracks but it is also all over the place with short cues from like 30+ films. It's all good stuff and gives you a better overall feel for Ifukube's range than the King re-recording but it's the roller coaster ride rather than the smooth sail. There is a wonderful collection of Ifukube scores but it runs 10 CDs, most of which can be found at Footlight. They run around the same high price each and I haven't heard enough of them to be able to pick out one as a solid primer on Ifukube.

    I will say that now that I'm on this pursuit, I've been very pleased with the scores I've obtained. There are certain obstacles to collecting Ifukube: the price of the CDs, a general unfamiliarity with films like To the End of the Silver Mountains, a similarity in style and sound between the scores, etc. But once surmounted, the rewards are well worth it.

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    posted 10-21-2000 05:12 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I noticed the Melodious Compile when I went over to see the specs on the other disc. I'm not completely sure what it is, or that I don't already have it.

    Collecting Mr. Ifukube's work is no picnic at all, indeed. Basically, the way it should be is that every single disc with his name on it should manifest itself, as if by magic, by my CD player as I sleep. That's how I'd prefer it.

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    posted 10-21-2000 05:19 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    It's really sad: So many great artists and orchestras (American and European) make regular tours to Japan, yet we hardly get Japanese music.

    NP: RVW: A London Symphony (London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult)

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    posted 10-21-2000 05:58 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Vap Records in Japan did a series of 6 CDs, each devoted to work Ifukube did for a different Japanese Studio, and the Melodious Compile (the strangest a name for a CD since, well, AI's Best Movie Songs) is a sampler of cues from all 6 of those albums.

    What's great about the thing is that one of the albums was devoted to music from Nikkatsu studio films. Nikkatsu is like the Roger Corman/AIP studio of Japan responsible for the Seijun Suzuki films and lots of soft core "pink" Roman porno films. Whenever a real blousy cue would show up on the sampler, I'd go, "I'll bet that's a Nikkatsu film." Of course Nikkatsu produced The Burmese Harp (!?!) which is the equivalent of Troma making Citizen Kane, so go figure.

    NP: Scott of the Antarctic (NOT the 7th Symphony but Scott of the Antarctic!) (Ralph Vaughan-Williams)

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    posted 10-21-2000 08:34 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Nikkatsu didn't go all-"pink" until the early seventies, I think. It's not THAT weird that they made THE BURMESE HARP, at least when they did. Still, the bulk of Ifukube's limited work there was for titles like A KILLED STEWARDESS, somehow one of my favorite movie titles of all time, second perhaps only to THE TORTURE CHAMBER OF DR. SADISM. I've fantasized for years about seeing an English-language album cover with the word "IFUKUBE" on the top and "A KILLED STEWARDESS" on the bottom, and a Zen-simple graphic in between. Stranger things have happened in the Japanese record industry ...

    For the record, most of Ifukube's film scores were done for either Toho or Daiei; several at Shochiku and Nikkatsu; and only a tiny handful at Toei. I don't know why so few at Toei, except, to quote one actor who still works for them on occasion, "They're probably the worst studio in the history of Japan!" I'd imagine that around the time Toei was really stepping up production, Ifukube was getting too expensive for them; additionally, their average product (yakuza films) was not really his idiom. He was typed more as a samurai and monster composer, although he did plenty of "home dramas," although mainly of the "heavy, sick, twisted" variety, to paraphrase him. I was surprised he didn't score the LONE WOLF & CUB series, since he'd collaborated well with its directors before (Kenji Misumi and Yoshiyuki Kuroda), and did wind up scoring Misumi's final film, WOLF, CHOP THE SETTING SUN. He actually LIKED Misumi, and he didn't like many of his directors (mainly Ishiro Honda and Daisuke Ito get praise from him, and then largely in part, I suspect, because they were easy to please. Still, after just a few years in his film career, you knew with Ifukube precisely what kind of score you were going to get -- that's why Honda picked him for GODZILLA, although they'd never worked together before. Although he insists that he was typecast and could have done much different stuff, if only he'd been asked. He's grown more philosophical about his film work over the years, no longer as dismissive of it as he used to be.)

    I REALLY want a couple of the Ifukube discs that Tower advertises on their website. Thank God for upcoming paychecks. (Well, they're "in the mail," grrrrr)

    P.S. Mr. Ifukube did not score THE TORTURE CHAMBER OF DR. SADISM, as at least Mr. Goldberg well knows, having recently started that Peter Thomas thread.

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    posted 10-22-2000 09:19 AM PT (US)     

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    I recently played the Japanese CD I got from the library (which includes Ifukube's Ballata Sinfonica) for my father, when I copied the Bruckner CD I also borrowed from the library for him. And I was really pleased when he asked me to do a copy of this CD, too.

    NP: Don Quixote (Paul Tortelier, Max Rostal, Staatskapelle Dresden, Rudolf Kempe)

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    posted 10-22-2000 11:40 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    cool.

    And you know what, "Ballata Sinfonica" isn't even one of his better works.

    Among my multiple goals is to publish the first English biography of Mr. Ifukube. I already have his permission. Thing is, there's so much material to pore over (most of it in Japanese), I figure I'll have to have translated one of the existing books, and modify it. (No, I'm not stealing some other author's work, he's a friend too, and said he would be thrilled to be published in English. It's just a question of what the whole thing's going to look like when we're through, since I need a THIRD party to help translate.)

    (actually, there's a mammoth three-volume Ifukube biography out in Japan now which I haven't read, not least because for the most part, I CAN'T READ IT! Maybe I should just improve my Japanese and translate THOSE. Although I doubt there's much of a market for them over here ...)

    Marian, you owe it to yourself to find a copy of BUDDHA. I think that some stores, e.g. Tower, are now billing the reissue as "Symphonic Ode." (Inasmuch as the formal English title of the work is "Symphonic Ode to Gautama the Buddha.")

    You know, incidentally, every piece of Ifukube cover artwork I've dialed up on the Net of late has obviously featured his own calligraphy. (You would not have seen it on the cover of the disc with "Ballata Sinfonica" since he wasn't the sole composer featured.)

    NP: THE MUMMY, oddly enough

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    posted 10-22-2000 11:59 AM PT (US)     

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    Don't worry, I guess I'll pick up every Ifukube CD I find in local stores - if I find one. I won't order anything on the 'net right now, as because of shipping costs, it's only feasable for Europeans to order several CDs at once, and considering how many CDs and DVDs I have bought recently, I really shouldn't do this right now.

    A friend of mine is Japanese. Well, sort of. His parents are, and he was born in Japan, but moved to Vienna soon. Japanese is his mother tongue - hard to believe, for his German sounds more Austrian than mine, I think. But he can hardly READ Japanese. I showed him the liner notes from my Japanese import Total Recall, but he could only make out a few parts of them. He said that to read a simple Japanese newspaper, you have to know over 1,500 Kanji letters!

    NP: Richard Strauss: Metamorphoses (Staatskapelle Dresden, Rudolf Kempe)

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    posted 10-22-2000 12:50 PM PT (US)     

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    Japanese is INCREDIBLY tough to read, although perhaps not as difficult as Chinese. I met a Taiwanese fellow in Tokyo who had little problem reading a Japanese newspaper, but it's not the same thing in reverse, since the Japanese have created a couple of alphabets to make writing a bit simpler. My best friend and translator in Japan, a brilliant man, STILL has trouble isolating certain kanji! (I tend to think it's because he's so smart that he thinks of tons of ALTERNATE translations for the kanji.)

    Ten or so years ago, the Japanese Prime Minister met with the (mainland) Chinese Prime Minister to apologize, in that roundabout formal Japanese way, for having invaded China some sixty years before. The Chinese Premier had an answer ready: "And we apologize to you," he said, "for giving the Japanese the two worst aspects of our own culture: Confucianism, and kanji."

    NP: GODZILLA VS. THE MUMMY (Jerry Ifukube)

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    posted 10-22-2000 01:08 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    ROFLMAO

    The Japanese seem to be really enthusiastic about "classical" music. Even the version of Anton Bruckner's 9th symphony I have, performed by the Austrian Bruckner Orchester Linz and conducted by Kurt Eichhorn (Austrian or German, I suppose) was release on the Japanese Camerata label (all the text is twice on the cover, in English and Japanese). It's a shame that their own music is so neglected here.

    NP: Richard Strauss: Metamorphoses (Staatskapelle Dresden, Rudolf Kempe)

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    posted 10-22-2000 01:26 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    y'know Marian, I thought Mr. Ifukube had a following in Europe ... perhaps not a massive one, but still a following. (I think his biggest fans are in Italy, where he was given a film festival award for THE BURMESE HARP in 1957. And I mentioned before the planned German rerecording of some of his concert work, but I guess that didn't happen.)

    It is certainly true that most Japanese contemporary music is ignored outside its homeland, except for the occasional anime score or Toru Takemitsu piece. Takemitsu, whom I respect, must have had SOME kind of connections, because he's probably the best-known of current Japanese composers. Not that he doesn't deserve the attention, but Ifukube is some 20 years older, and he seems to be pigeonholed as "Mr. Godzilla," which is true -- a LOT of his best film work is monster stuff -- but it's also unfair.

    NP: THE ENTERPRISE VS. GODZILLA (Akira Goldsmith)

    P.S. Marian! Look up in your local library the four following composers: Fumio Hayasaka, Kan Ishii, Baku Ishii, and Ikuma Dan. Just curious what you might turn up.

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    posted 10-22-2000 02:04 PM PT (US)     

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    Unfortunately the stores, such as Tower Records in Dallas and Austin, do not have any Akira Ifukube discs. Although I did see a copy of Masaru Sato's score to Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla and Vol 2 of The Best of Godzilla on the Futureland Label in Tower Records. I'm trying to get his other works as well. I've always been a great fan of his works for the Kaiju films. But now I'm looking to expand my collection of his works.

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    posted 10-22-2000 04:44 PM PT (US)     

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    I just watched a documentary about the Vienna Symphony Orchestra on TV. Somehow I never really noticed this orchestra, although everybody seems to have a very high opinion about them. I was glad that the feature started off with an excerpt of Anton Bruckner's 9th symphony, which also sounded quite good. I checked their website, and they're playing Bruckner's 4th, 6th and 8th this season. Guess I'll have to attend at least one of these performances.

    Anyway, the reason why I mention this here is that the documentary accompanied the orchestra on a tour to Japan. Obviously, the Japanese are so interested, and by now also familiar with western music (they even have a Herbert von Karajan place in Tokyo!), several members of the orchestra stated that playing in Japan is not really like playing abroad, but more like a concert at home.

    Also, one of the players of the orchestra was seen performing a song accompanying himself on some sort of guitar. The song was about and against racism and included a list of famous Austrian Jewish artists, and I was really glad to hear the name Korngold in that list.

    NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #3 (Radio-Sinfonie-Orchester Frankfurt, Eliahu Inbal) (this work has one of the best introductions I've heard)

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    posted 10-22-2000 04:55 PM PT (US)     

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    Mark O--Try to contact Tower on line or call them at 1-800-ASK-TOWER and see what turns up. Tower has Satoh's Chagall Blue for $28.

    I've acquired some Satoh items. There are Satoh cues from various Godzilla scores but I'm sure you have those. I have numbers 2, 4, and 10 from the 16 CD series Film Music of Masaru Satoh, the complete score to Half Human, 2 LPs from the LP series of Satoh scores (mostly Kurosawa films), and the US LP of Yojimbo. There is a complete CD for Satoh's score to The H-Man that I'd like to get my hands on.

    NP: The Saga of Anatahan (I don't know, I can't read Kanji)

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 10-27-2000]

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    posted 10-26-2000 08:27 PM PT (US)     

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    Marian, I've mentioned in other threads (the first of them lost at the FSM Board turnover) that the Japanese seem to have a respect for film music that rivals no other nation in the world; and their respect for classical music goes even beyond that. The sheer number of symphony halls in Tokyo alone! The mammoth classical sections in any record store! I don't mean they don't have MORE than their share of rock and pop, both "foreign" and home-grown, but still! At the beginning of the first GODZILLA movie (Japanese version only), the young lovers are planning to go hear a string quartet ... (actually, this becomes a motif throughout, in the script not the score, but never mind that for now. )

    While still in his teens, Mr. Ifukube and his best friend Fumio Hayasaka (later Kurosawa's favorite composer, until dying quite young of tuberculosis in 1955) together played a selection of European music on the Hokkaido stage. "Festival du Musique Contemporaire," it was called, something like that (Ifukube was already multilingual). Ifukube on violin, Hayasaka on piano. Among their choices was the first-ever Japanese performance of the work of Erik Satie. "I was a 'modern boy,'" Ifukube likes to joke.

    NP: STAR TREK FIRST CONTACT

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    posted 10-27-2000 10:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Oh by the way, Your H'ness, I've asked good old Hatfield to send me one of his Ifukube discs with our next trade.

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    posted 10-28-2000 04:48 AM PT (US)     

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    Just trying to keep this topic alive.

    I picked up the Film Works of Akira Ifukube Volume One CD--most of the cues seem to be taken right off the film soundtracks and there are a few tracks with dialogue. The music is good, but this isn't a single CD anthology that best introduces Ifukube.

    The neat thing is that this CD provides original cues from To the End of the Silver Mountains. The re-recorded version on AI's Best Movie Songs is slightly slower than the original, but the original track is so muddy, that cues can only really be appreciated in the re-recorded version.

    There is a series of 5 CDs entitled Japanese Cinema Music Series with each CD devoted to a Japanese composer. The Composers are Yasushi Akutagawa, Toru Takemitsu, Masaru Satoh, Toshiro Mayuzumi (this CD has 10 minutes from Tokyo Olympiad one of my favorite scores of all time), and Akira Ifukube. Maybe the Ifukube CD in this series might be the 1 CD sampler that best represents him (I don't know as I don't have this yet).

    I wish I could burn CDs because then I'd put together my own sampler of Ifukube that would blow away anyone unfamiliar with his work. I could record the cues onto cassette tape. Maybe someone here could convert the tape to a CDR (via mini-disc or some such approach) and make the CDRs available to whoever on the board wants to have an Ifukube sample anthology.

    NP: King Kong vs Godzilla (Ifukube, who else?)

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    posted 10-28-2000 10:04 PM PT (US)     

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    Lou: You're right that many of the first tracks heard on Ifukube Vol #1 are from the film tracks, because the tapes are lost. I love the album (the only one of that series I currently own), but wondered why they didn't go ahead and make the disc a lot longer: why not track ALL the available main titles, at least, whether off the film track or not? (So I'm greedy, sue me!)

    Even the tracks for his amazing 1963 score BUDDHA are lost, which is one reason he converted it into a symphony, although it had already been a symphonic work before (debuted in the 1950s, can't think right now precisely when, but I suspect it wasn't as massive -- Ifukube told me that BUDDHA will probably never be performed live again because of the size of the orchestra and chorus, and the consequent cost involved.)

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    posted 12-18-2000 01:53 PM PT (US)     

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    Maybe they had trouble finding the films. As it is, the few tracks on Vol. 1 that are straight from the soundtracks of actual film prints sound pretty muddy and even have splice bumps in them. Maybe these were the cleanest and other cues would have sounded too bad to put out.

    I take it that the Japanese Cinema Music Series has more than 5 CDs, it covers a larger number of Japanese composers, many I'm unfamiliar with.

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    posted 12-19-2000 10:08 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I mentioned this on another thread, which perhaps you didn't see. The six composers represented on individual discs are: Takemitsu, Ifukube, Sato, Akutagawa, Masao Yagi and Hikaru Hayashi.

    When I mentioned this before, I asserted that there was a sixth volume, but rereading (well, struggling with) the advertisement, I'm not sure it's for sale in stores. I think the idea might be that you buy the original six discs, and you mail in the coupons and get this one for free (ALWAYS save your wraparounds, people!): a "combination album" of highlights from others in the original Toho Records LP series, featuring works by Mayuzumi, Riichiro Manabe, Yuzo Matsumura, Chuji Kinoshita, and one more guy whose name I'm not sure of (it'll come back to me.)

    I'd thought there were more than ten volumes in the original Toho Records "World of" series (1977-78), but perhaps not.

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