And if for no other reason, he calls a reporter an A-Hole and stands by it in public. Dammit, THAT's the kind of person we need in the Whore H-, uh, White House.

to stay score-related, I think Trevor Rabin is more talented than John Williams could ever be. Gone in 60 Seconds is a frickin' masterpiece of form and structure. way better than Star Wars.

Wedge, I respect your opinion, but I don't think you've seen the documents I've seen. If Gore was running against the Devil, I'd vote for the Devil because he has more integrity. Those of you on the West Coast now can be targeted by Chinese missles thanks to technology exchanged for Clinton/Gore campaign contributions. And I also know why Reno has not turned it over to an outside prosecutor.

As an accountant I can tell you that if you add all his promises up, Gore not only has no
lockbox, he also spends the surplus several times.

I could go on longer than any Daniel2 post, but lets get back to music. Any opinions on THE YARDS?

My immediate family 3-Bush
3-Gore
2-Nader
2-undecided

My folks in Texas 3-Bush
4-Gore
3-undedided

I completely agree with you that the race will be tight barring a major blunder by either main contender. It could be close enough that the popular vote winner could lose the electorial college and the election.This one will be won by who gets their people to the polls.

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Originally posted by JJH:

to stay score-related, I think Trevor Rabin is more talented than John Williams could ever be. Gone in 60 Seconds is a frickin' masterpiece of form and structure. way better than Star Wars.

NP -- Berliner Messe, Arvo Pärt[/B]

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You are joking right?????????????

Really, I'm closer to Gore on what he says his opinions are, but I wouldn't trust him to hold my camera, let alone hold the office of president.

But I don't really want to vote for Bush, either. Perhaps he's more trustworthy, but he has never impressed me with any records, speeches, or debates he has given (neither has Gore, to tell you the truth).

So those two are off my list... there are other candidates I might vote for like Nader (environment is pretty much my top concern, but then again I'm not sure the Green party is actually going to show up on the Illinois ballot), but to go into the booth and vote for any third party candidate would be throwing out my vote entirely.

So I must ask again, "Are these really my only choices?"

However, I will not be of voting age this November, so that is a burden I don't have to go through. But it vexes me so...

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Originally posted by Jeron:
Who in the heck is this Ralph Nader fellow? He was on my college campus today rallying for support... and there were an awful lot of people with green hair roaming about. They were wearing hats that said "Kill the Television!"

Anyone care to explain?

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Ralph Nader is the Green Party's Presidential nominee. You may have heard of him when he was barred from participating in the debates and was thrown out when he tried to enter the building even though he had a ticket. I'm assuming the "Kill the TV" is referring to Nader not being allowed to take part in the TV debates.

Nader's very popular among the college and high school population, and he has supporters such as filmmaker Michael Moore and cartoonist Tom Tomorrow
If you want to know more about Nader and his position, go here:
http://www.speakout.com/Activism/greenparty/
http://www.speakout.com/Election2000/President/Issues.asp?candidate=Ralph+Nader

Also, thanks for the info on Nader. There were a lot of students congregated around Nader and his entourage today (at my college). But after speaking with many of the folks I run in to on a daily basis, their votes are with Bush. To them, Nader's whole "green" theme is a hinderance to his campaign. I mean, come on. Spiked neon-green hair? That's so eighties...

Jeron

Believe me, I'm never going to run!

However, my statement (above) is true.

A President is only as good as his weakest Cabinet member. That fact has been one of Clinton's biggest problems! When he ran for the office, he PROMISED US a "Cabinet that looks like America"...but when he WON, he hired a Cabinet consisting of only LAWYERS!

Wedge, please explain to me WHY you are going to vote for the ONLY candidate who is currently under investigation for campaign fund-raising FRAUD?

Al Gore has been under investigation for more than a year now. That process WILL NOT GO AWAY no matter if he wins or loses. He may very well be found guilty after the election!

No matter what, I would rather have a President in office who is NOT carrying that kind of FELONIOUS baggage along with him.

I find it fascinating that our liberal media never mentions this.

I also find it fascinating that PeterK allows this thread to continue, after having killed my thread about Jesus.

If there's one more post after this one of mine, it gets locked away in the lock box and eventually thrown in the sea!

I couldn't agree more.

Thankfully Frontline on PBS had a special on both candidates and really opened my eyes to Bush's background. What most impressed me is his relationship with a Texas politician named Bullock (I think that's his name). Bush was able to oust a VERY popular governor out of office. So....he can at least talk the talk.

I dont (necessarily) believe him to be the overpriviledged sap that I once thought. I think his potential is actually greater than his father's. (I still cant get over his father referring to his own mixed marriage grandchildren as "the little brown ones". What an obtuse fool.)

I think George W could be a good President but I think he's just not ripe enough yet. Leave him on the tree a little longer and we'll see in another 4 years.

Gore's probably the anti-Christ but at least he's got more experience under his belt. He's my candidate....even though from the debates he came off as the kid who always had their hand raised with the answer in class. You know the one. The one that the teacher would overlook trying desparately to get another student a chance.

It's a shame that the people here in Texas are assuming that Bush will naturally win this state.
Its possible. There are enough inbred bumpkins here that'll think they're voting for Johnny Carson.

Ah well... Peter's gonna lock this thread and toss it in the sea of forgetfulness. He warned us all! We are doomed.

Jeron

PS- Michel, please don't kill me for the Miss. comment! But you know what I'm talking about...

I'm voting for....

Hell if I know. I'm flipping a coin

Unless "someone" can convince me otherwise .

--Kyppy

I saw the debate yesterday, and was reminded of the fact that both major contenders in a US election state they agree with the death penalty.

So I don't know what I'd do if I were American. Probably I'd vote like PeterK.

One of my main problems with Bush is that he is too vague. Even if you go to his website and look at his breakdown of issues, some of them are so brief that it is hard to understand what or how he is going to accomplish things. Watching the debates, I noticed that Bush has proved to be too general (like he doesn't know what his opinion is on certain things, so he gives a very generalized response).

Another problem I have with Bush is the abortion issue. While I feel abortions are bad things, I also think that if a woman wants to have one, she should have that choice.

Bush also wants to raise the immigration level of "highly skilled immigrants." As a Computer Science student who will be entering the job force in a couple of years, I'd rather not have more immigrants around competing for jobs.

If McCain was still in this, he would get my vote.

Voting for Ralph Nader is like giving a vote to Bush.

Can't you guys read what I had to say? Nope? Ok, then. Consequences delivered.