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Topic: Total Recall-The Deluxe Edition

Matthew

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Just read over at Film Score Monthly that it's coming on December 5th,with over 70 minutes of music.
I can't wait.Check out all of the
info at FSM.[Message edited by Matthew on 10-13-2000]
posted 10-13-2000 01:37 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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YES! Gimme gimme gimme!
posted 10-13-2000 01:56 AM PT (US) 
Darth Fart

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Praise the lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted 10-13-2000 02:50 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Hallelu-YEAH!!! This is gonna be AWESOME. Just in time for Christmas, too. What more can a guy ask for? Episode One: Ultimate Edition *and* Total Recall: Deluxe Edition. I'll be in Williams/Goldsmith heaven!Jeron
[Message edited by Jeron on 10-13-2000]
posted 10-13-2000 05:09 AM PT (US) 
Alwin

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Maybe another JG score to add to my collection?Is this a re-recording, or the original, with additional cues added?
posted 10-13-2000 08:06 AM PT (US) 
BobaMike

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Alwin, this is the original. Total Recall is one of GOldsmith's all time best action scores. The main theme is awesome, and the action cues are very very complex. He doesn't write cues like them anymore (he felt they were buried in the film), so this was kind of the last hurrah for them
THe bootleg of Total Recall is a great listen, I can't wait for an official cd with better sound!
Thanks Varese!BobaMike
posted 10-13-2000 08:40 AM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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Man... Goldsmith fans are really being spoiled lately!
posted 10-13-2000 09:53 AM PT (US) 
Kevin
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I'm a little disappointed that there hasn't been any complaining yet.
I mean, last month is announced a complete (inasmuch as we know of) Phantom Menace score, and all people do is whine and complain that they "didn't get it all the first time like they were supposed to."
Now, years later, we get the complete score for Total Recall, and people welcome it with open arms.
Now, I'm not against having more music from this movie, but why the differences in accepting the two? And dont' say it's because of Lucas.
Kevin
NP - Jurassic Park (Since I just got the DVD's)posted 10-13-2000 12:02 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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This is THE action score!NP: Glassworks (Philip Glass)
posted 10-13-2000 12:38 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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About time!!!!How many people on this board are going to buy it that already had the bootleg, I wonder? (I don't have the bootleg, though had long intended to get it as a supplement to my original disc. Now I guess I won't have to.)
Kevin, re: the difference between accepting this and not whining about PHANTOM MENACE: it's a year after PHANTOM MENACE came out, they did NOT apparently get it right the first time (I don't have the original disc, as I was expecting an expansion to happen, though NOT so quickly), and you suggest we should not say it's about George Lucas: sorry, but it is, and that's all it is.
The reasons we didn't have a longer TOTAL RECALL the first time are irritating as well, but Varese is at least making up for their ten-year-old mistake ... I wonder if Goldsmith will have any input into the album's production. I remember reading an eyewitness account of Goldsmith and Bruce Botnick mixing the album: Botnick favored a quirky little cue called "Howdy, Stranger" (for the Jonny Cab sequence, I think), but Goldsmith nixed it for the album.
[Message edited by H Rocco on 10-13-2000]
posted 10-13-2000 12:48 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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According to FSM's daily article, Goldsmith and Robert Townson worked together on this upcoming release.
posted 10-13-2000 02:37 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Yep. This thread was the first thing I'd read all day, hadn't gone to the FSM board yet. Well, it's one score Goldsmith is particularly and correctly proud of, so I can see why he'd want in on the new issue."Almost every note Goldsmith wrote!" Cool cool cool cool cool ...........
NP: Cheap Trick "Music For Hangovers" (no, I'm not hung over!)
posted 10-13-2000 02:44 PM PT (US) 
Aaron R. Brown

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When I first heard Total Recall, I thought it was just a bunch of lound notes. Now after hearing it a couple of time, I think that I is probably his finest next to AFO and Rambo 2. Did anyone else not get the score after hearing it the first time.P.S. I haven't seen Basic Instict but once but I have the score. Is there much music missing? If there is, I wouldn't be surprised if some of us want more of it!
posted 10-13-2000 03:26 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Except for the addictive main title, it did take a while for TOTAL RECALL to grow on me, although ten years later I'm much more into complex music than I was then.Far as I know, the BASIC INSTINCT album is more or less complete, although the version of "An Unending Story" that's on the album is slightly different from the version in the movie. I'd like to have that one on disc.
posted 10-13-2000 03:51 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevin:
Now, years later, we get the complete score for Total Recall, and people welcome it with open arms.Well, in my case, I don't own ANY version of this at all, so an expanded release is welcome!

posted 10-13-2000 08:23 PM PT (US) 
Lonely Guy
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Hi Kev!
I think I can actually answer your question!
It seems to me that the reason folks are moaning about TPM and not about TR is because when a Williams score is released, we usually get a GENEROUS portion of the score the first time around. With Goldsmith, we're lucky if we get 30 minutes! I really don't think it has anything to do with Goldsmith not wanting his complete scores released. The sad fact of the matter is that Williams is, more or less, a household name and Goldsmith isn't. So, record execs see Williams as a sure fire seller, whereas Goldsmith is probably considered a risk. This is a shame because Goldsmith is my "drug" of choice. I love Williams but hardly buy his stuff when it's first released because HIS music will be in the catalog for YEARS,so I can take my sweet time buying them, whereas Goldsmith's scores are deleted relatively quickly, so I snatch them up right away. I think that's probably why people are ecstatic about Total Recall and moaning about TPM. Also, I think it's fairly obvious that Lucas had planned this all along. Why release the entire score as soon as the film opens when you have a lot of chumps out there that will buy what they can get, and if more comes out, they'll buy that too?
Me sleepy now. Me go nappynappy.
CiaoZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.....
posted 10-13-2000 09:30 PM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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Although embarrasing to those of us that were pessimistic about the chances of an expanded edition of this score (yours truly), it is nice, sometimes, to be proven wrong.Bring it on! I want the "Lori Vs. Melina" cue!!!
posted 10-14-2000 01:12 AM PT (US) 
CF8

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Anyone know the tracklist for this upcoming DeLuxedition?
If 70 min long it still should be missing some music. I do hope the "Mars Scenes" that are not on the boot are included!posted 10-14-2000 02:11 AM PT (US) 
Foobsie
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Huh, did I miss out on something here..... Goldsmith fans are getting spoiled this year.....How about we were devoid, robbed, cheated, mobbed, mugged of our rightful listening minutes everytime we purchased a Goldsmith score, until recently.
Also I noticed that a lot of record companies are rerealising all of their back-catalog titles (LP's included, remastered) on digital disc because they want to preserve the analog masters. Now is a better time as ever to release the score digitally and in that same process create a digital master (which stores/sounds better) than the old analog master tapes which are degrading rapidly.
For new scores a new rule applies. The scores are being recorded directly onto the digital domain. Hence.... they can be preserved for years. But expect them to be rereleased, expanded and digitally remastered every 15 years or so (because digital audio is now at a 40 or more bits resolution) or digital discs are passe.... store them directly onto optical sticks the size of a toothpic. It's a cycle I have been observing for quite some time.
The degrading of the analog tapes is not only what makes it possible to rerelease the scores onto digital disc, often the re-use fees no longer apply.NP-TOTAL RECALL-Jerry Goldsmith ******/*****
In honor of that great man ;-)
Yes you've read it right: 6 stars out of 5. Only a few a scores earn this rating.Cheers,
Foobs
THE NETHERLANDSposted 10-14-2000 03:08 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Fun fact: TOTAL RECALL's score took so long to complete, Goldsmith was able to write and record the ENTIRE score for GREMLINS 2 before TOTAL RECALL was even finished! Director Paul Verhoeven works his composers pretty hard ... Basil Poledouris endured a similar schedule on STARSHIP TROOPERS.Goldsmith found scoring the movie so labor-intensive that he said afterwards he wasn't going to be scoring any more action movies. Heh Heh Heh ...
I wonder if the sequel is really going ahead.
posted 10-14-2000 03:25 AM PT (US) 
Darth Fart

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I hated this score when I first heard it. The main titles were terrific but the rest was noise. Now, 2 years later, it's a fantastic, awesome, motherf*ucker of a score. I love this to death. Who doesn't get excited during the fianle of track 9 (End of a dream)? And of course track 4(The Mutant)!!!!Yes, Goldsmith's ultimate action score of the 90s.
posted 10-14-2000 03:51 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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That was kind of how I felt at the time, although I was amazed by "The Mutant," even in the theater. Watching the picture again, I realized that the film's end title is a mix of two earlier cues, beginning with the Main Title and winding up thrillingly with "The Mutant." (In comes some smartass to tell me there's a third cue quoted, but those are the two I noticed.)
posted 10-14-2000 05:56 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I was VERY disappointed at first, too (even more though in the case of Basic Instinct). But some months later, I suddenly discovered it as the great score it is. There have been rumours about a possible upcoming decent DVD release of the movie in Europe (I think the existing version are all Pan & Scan, and cut), I hope this is true as well. One of the very few really good "Arnie" movies.NP: NOT Total Recall - as with TPM, I'll refrain from listening to it before I get the expanded release

posted 10-14-2000 06:41 AM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

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First the TPM expanded, then Total Recall and the Austin Powers scores.... It's going to be a Groovy two months baby!!!!! Yeah Baby Yeah!!!!!!
[Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 10-14-2000]
posted 10-14-2000 08:56 AM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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No, H Rocco, you're right. Those two cues make up the end title. There is a brief moment during the transition that doesn't sound at all familiar, but it's not worth mentioning.On the other hand, there already was a direct-to-video sequel. No, the score was not composed by Jerry Goldsmith.
NP - David Newman The Freshman
posted 10-14-2000 03:22 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Swash, I believe the sequel Rocco is talking about is the one that was (is?) to be directed by Jonathan Frakes. I too am interested as to if this one is still "in the works." Seeing as how Frakes and Goldsmith have a good relationship, I'd hope he could convince Jerry to return for the sequel (if it gets made).Jeron
posted 10-14-2000 04:55 PM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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What sequel would this be? I am familiar only with the Total Recall 2070 or whatever.Frakes handles action material well, he probably would be a pretty good choice for this material; should he be hired, I'm pretty sure that the project's budget wouldn't neccesarily support a Jerry Goldsmith score. However, as the existence of this thread proves, I could (and hope to) be proven wrong.
NP - Elmer Bernstein Airplane!
posted 10-14-2000 06:24 PM PT (US) 
charben
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Very good news. I'll be buying my copy come December. As an aside, I always thought the Main Title sounded a bit like the opening of Conan the Barbarian. I always figured that this was Goldsmith's in-joke to music fans that this was another Ah-nuld movie.Chris Harben
Atlantic Beach, FLposted 10-14-2000 07:13 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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What few credits one can find for TOTAL RECALL 2 (although the IMdb is as fallible as anyplace or anyone) ...http://us.imdb.com/Details?0136674
Notice Arnie has not signed on yet.posted 10-14-2000 08:30 PM PT (US) 
HAL 2000
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The main title sequence was tempted with Conan. That accounts for the similarity.I do have the expanded boot and the sound is acceptable but there are some key sequences missing. Most notably the famous 'two weeks" scene when Quiad's fat lady disguise goes haywire. The boot also contains the catfight scene.
Still, this delux addition is a must have for me. I hope the "extensive" notes go into detail about the process of what Goldsmith really put into the score.
10 years later this classic is finally starting to recieve the respect it always deserved!
[Message edited by HAL 2000 on 10-15-2000]
posted 10-15-2000 06:25 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I'm also looking forward to reading the liner notes. My CD is the normal Varese release, but a Japanese import - with Japanese liner notes...NP: The Lord of the Rings (Leonard Rosenman)
posted 10-15-2000 08:16 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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At least the Japanese version HAD liner notes (nearly all Japanese soundtracks do) ... the original Varese version didn't.TOTAL RECALL's main title's debt to CONAN THE BARBARIAN is obvious, but I always felt that Goldsmith was also referencing THE TERMINATOR in the second half of the theme as well. It would make sense: I kind of thought Goldsmith was kind of sending the picture up in some ways, as the picture already does to itself (the previously mentioned "F*ck you a*shole sequence, and Arnie's later, identical evaluation of his "other self.")
NP: hmm, maybe I'll put in ...
[Message edited by H Rocco on 10-15-2000]
posted 10-15-2000 08:28 AM PT (US) 
Swashbuckler

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Yeah, I agree. Goldsmith had his tongue planted firmly in his cheek while writing this score. Considering that the score is a powerhouse beyond belief, well it just goes to show you how powerful a box office figure Ah-nold was ten years ago.NP - Jerry Goldsmith Poltergeist (see Andre's thread on the subject here)
posted 10-15-2000 09:20 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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It always seemed to me like the whole film was sending itself, & Arnie up. A lot of people I know just take it at face value, & say it's crap, but it seems to me that there's this really wicked sense of humour of Verhoevens' coming through just being almost a big huge joke at Arnie's expense, in a lot of ways.
But this is really terrific news about the expanded issue. Ooooh, me is one very happy bunny indeedy.
posted 10-16-2000 08:16 AM PT (US) 
Hector J. Guzman

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Ah, yes!NP. The Mummy
posted 10-16-2000 03:17 PM PT (US) 
André Lux

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TOTAL RECALL expanded??Hipi-hipi-HURRRÁ!!

Ahhh... Am I too late?
posted 10-16-2000 04:52 PM PT (US) 
Kevin
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So.... all this happy happy joy joy over the expanded score, but the question begs to be asked...Anyone have info on the Track Titles/Times yet?
Kevin
NP - 2001 (A. North)posted 10-16-2000 09:31 PM PT (US) 
SBD
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The 1990 release is fine by me, but I just might get this version. "A New Life" earns my vote for best finale cue ever. And "The Mutant" is just spellbinding. Finally, IMHO, "The Dream" only vaguely sounds like CONAN THE BARBARIAN.NP - Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde *****/*****
posted 10-17-2000 07:15 AM PT (US) 
Darth Fart

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Tracklisting please?
posted 10-17-2000 07:26 AM PT (US) 
scoreaholic
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Is the track that accompanies the first Johnny Cab sequence not going to be in the expanded edition? This little piece was not used in the film, but is in the bootleg. I LOVE this track!!! It would be a shame to delete such a good piece of music. As far as I can tell, The only two tracks missing from the bootleg are on mars, from the "Two Weeks" sequence just before the shooting begins, and the sequence just after that shooting when Arnold escapes under a closing emergency door. This piece accompanies a veiw of Mars and the train that he is riding on, and when Arnold talks to a man who use to work in the mine before it got shut down. This has an awesome chorus piece. From what I can gather, if they added these two pieces, and got rid of the Judge Dredd trailer music (which is good, but not Total Recall music) that is atleast on my copy of the boot, the cd would still come in at about 74 minutes or a little less. This seems to be the desired maximum running time of cd's now a days
posted 10-17-2000 09:08 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
