Clay G.

NP Gone In 60 Seconds (Trevor Rabin)

Really, I don't see why people call this Morricornee guy a musical genius. I mean, have you heard his synths?!

DjC, yeah - this is your opinion. I can appreciate opinions... but what is the point of your post if you have nothing to show for it? This aggravates people like me and BIG ANDRE... and others, who want to know the WHY, not just the WHAT. What makes this score "fecal matter" in your opinion?

Jeron

The score to MISSON to Mars did not go with the film at all. Rather it dumbed it down to yet another cheesy waist of a trillion dollars. I respect the composer for his previous scores, but should I respect 300% crap just because a respected person made it? NO! Crap is crap, if it smells like crap, it probably is, in this case, it sounds like excrement, and is.

I heard no proof of a great score, after all, if the score does not go with the film, and sucks IN THE FILM, then in the end it had failed its purpose. This is the case with MIssion to Mars. I would say the Mission to Mars score is a cross between As Good As It Gets and Mars Attacks. Which in turn = POOP!

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Originally posted by DjC:
I am confused BMIKE, did you like it or not?

I heard no proof of a great score, after all, if the score does not go with the film, and sucks IN THE FILM, then in the end it had failed its purpose. This is the case with MIssion to Mars. I would say the Mission to Mars score is a cross between As Good As It Gets and Mars Attacks. Which in turn = POOP!

Lol, I am being honest here, I loved As Good AS It Gets by the way.

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This one I'd have to say tops "As Good As It Gets" in my book... though that's not to say I don't like what Zimmer did. But in all actuality, I simply do not see how you can compare the two. And it definitely does not resemble Mars Attacks.

Kick back, relax, and enjoy the damn music, man.

that's what music is for.

Spotty faced teenagers trying to figure it out what the hell Ennio Morricone (Who?? How many $imp$on/Buckheinmer movies this person scored?? How do I pronounce its name??) was doing...

Something the simpletons worshipers of Hamzimmer and his music factory will never be able to understand...

Well people, rejoice! That's why GREAT scores like TOP GUN, ARMAGEDOOM, GLADIATOR and BEVERLY HILLS COP 2 exists!

(Okay. Finished.)

And Jeron, stop these emotions! We shall have no more of that!

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Originally posted by DjC:
I was kidding BMIKE, I know you semi dug it even though the score had nothing to do with the film. The score was all over the place. If you like crap, then fine, like it, I will stay with my TITUS and Last of the Mohicans. I think the problem is that you guys actually liked this film!?

[Message edited by DjC on 09-29-2000]

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I'm disappointed you can't respect our own personal likes and dislikes. We're willing to leave you with yours... at least acknowlegde ours rather than telling us we are wrong for thinking the way we do. If you can't do that, then that supposed "crutch" we are using is completely justified and you truly are a mindless, inconsiderate jerk. I'm sorry to have to sound so harsh, but I can't put it any other way.

Mission To Mars is a great listen, but I also didn't find it terribly fitting to the film (although I agree with BMikeJ that the film is really about the man who is trying to deal with the death of his wife, I don't particularly think that the score did the "film" justice in several crucial scenes, such as the opening of "the face", which is a scene that should either be scored HUGE or not scored at all; it's way too tender for that moment in the film; man, this is a long parenthetical statement!).

I'm willing to give everything a fair shake, before rendering a decision.

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I think the problem is that you guys actually liked this film!?

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well...how many scores to bad films do YOU like? Armageddon, etc.?

Goldsmith wrote many fine scores for bad films, as have have most film composers.
your point in invalid.

Next!?

I didn't think the movie was successful, but the music did complement it in strange and unexpected ways. I've little doubt it's precisely what DePalma wanted. And therein lies half the problem: his instincts have become terribly blunted in the past decade or so. I keep waiting for him to snap out of it and give us another hallucinatory masterpiece like THE FURY. M2M has its hallucinatory bits, sure, but "masterpiece" I'm afraid it's not ... I wonder how RED PLANET will compare. (Based on a story by Chuck Pfarrer, I see ... we're off to a bad start already then ...)

By the way, I see DjC likes TITUS, so his taste isn't ALL bad ...

NP: BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN (Franz Waxman) (surprisingly good rerecording conducted by Kenneth Alwyn, brings out depth in the orchestration that you just can't hear in those crackly old 1935 mono prints)

(subsequent P.S. to qualify something about DePalma: I don't mean I think he has to go back to making thrillers; it's clear from the mechanical RAISING CAIN and SNAKE EYES that he's none too interested in that anymore. The problem is that he's not in tune with whatever it is that IS interesting him. I think he's in a slump comparable to Spielberg's in the early nineties: ALWAYS, HOOK and JURASSIC PARK were flashy but empty, although I liked parts of all of them. Then with SCHINDLER'S LIST, he finally broke through and found another level of himself to express. DePalma needs to do this somehow -- although the one time he DID try this, I think, with CASUALTIES OF WAR, he was critically and financially kicked so hard in the teeth that he's never quite been the same since. Morricone scored that one too, by the way, aah, you probably remembered that.)

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Originally posted by Jon:
...by Endrio Moronic...

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That's how one pronounce the Maestro's name while sucking a lollypop...

LOL!!

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Originally posted by DjC:
puke, vomit, fecal matter, and a filth of movie making

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Hmmm...sounds like a diaper commercial to me.

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Originally posted by scoreguy15:
Good job DjC, I just lost ALL interest in seeing this movie. I like my dinner in my stomach. [Message edited by scoreguy15 on 09-29-2000]

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Clay, could it be that you are now doing what you accused of some members of doing? Bashing?

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Originally posted by Al:
Meanwhile, Enemy of The State remains a masterpiece. All those delicate nuances with the sparse piano strikes, pulsing electronic beats, and constantly changing rhythms representing something very important.

Really, I don't see why people call this Morricornee guy a musical genius. I mean, have you heard his synths?!

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Hahaha, Al you crack me up. I thus forgive you for your counter-review of The Lost World, trying to make me look like a fool. Hehehe. It's cool.