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Originally posted by DjC:
I did not expect another mindless film like the previous space ones, I expected thick Cheese, which it turned out to be

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Why did you go see it then?

Scott

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Originally posted by DjC:
I may be young, but I have the know-how on what works in film. The score OVER packs the already semi emotional scenes with unesecary emotions. It was like showing a dead dog on the road next to the owner crying. Then over the top sad music kicks in forcing soo much sadness that it is cheesy. Then when the mother comes out to the crying child and says " It is okay honey, I can get you a new one." Then as soon as she says that over the top happy music kicks in. I know you guys will eat up ANYTHING these composers make, but come on! How can you like such a score? It is not beautiful, it is fakey, over the top, almost like putting in the score to STAR WARS in Blair Witch Project.

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Congratulations, you have just discovered the art of film scoring.

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Originally posted by DjC:
Also, there are certain emotions already put on screen by happenings in the film. The score only forced those emotions. Meaning when a character was sad, there was sad music, okay no big deal that is common, but then when they say "it is okay, immediatly happy it is okay music kicks in. Hence why the score was filth, brainless, and lame.

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Gosh, now you should teach on the subject.

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Originally posted by DjC:
and to label me as a gen X mindless action movie fan is also a crutch. I am nothing of the sort, I am probably more mature(film wise) than you are now, and I am a billion years younger. You guys are the ones that like filth such as Mission, I set my standards higher in film music, and if the composer is a supposed master, then why in the heck is he making crap to make a stupid film even more horrid?

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Now you are just insulting. Remember, the higher you elevate yourself, the harder the fall.

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Originally posted by DjC:
I do not mean to be a jerk, but I am angered that you guys, supposed worthy compsers and or collectors like such junk as Mission to Mars.

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Ever thought that maybe you're wrong here?

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Originally posted by Jon:
I agree. Mission To Mars by Endrio Moronic is a terrible score. I fell asleep while listening to it.

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Well, at least it did something good for you.

This thread is peculiar in many ways. Hmmm...how shall one respond? I haven't seen the movie, yet I have the score. The score is great. I love it.

Yet, anyone is entitled to their opinion, so are you DjC. Yet getting angry and having a fit because the majority doesn't share your opinion and insulting everyone in the process only makes you look like an imature, wet behind the ears, teenage jerk, which I doubt you are. You invited this discussion, yet you failed to demonstrate the skills to participate effectively in it. My advice, stop taking yourself so seriously, respect others and accept different opinions you should do fine.

John Dunham, you responded that it is irrelevant if the score is a great listen besides the movies because a film score is to work in the film. Why do you collect scores then? Why do any of us? Why do we buy cds containing great operas, when they were written to be watched in a theater? Your argument fails on the simple plane that in the future there will be many forgotten film of which the scores will still be listen to by many people and which will have grown into an excistense on their own, apart from the film.

I have many scores of movies I haven't seen and while I don't know if they accomplished their tasks in the contents of the movie, this does not lessen their beauty or effectiveness on theri own. As easy as it is to replace a score with another one, it is easy to listen to a score apart of the movie and enjoy it. This is not irrelevant. If it were, we wouldn't be collecting soundtracks.

I wish we all could elevate ourselves just a little higher and discuss scores in a more worthy matter than just calling it any filthy name one can find in the almaniacs of deviant behavior.

By the way, to throw a cat on a piano is just to compose a score is rather sadistic and to know the smell and intimate details of Elephant dung is just weird behavior.

Andre, I just know you are sitting in the beautiful Brazil jungle, relaxing and enjoing this. I must admit, your comments have made me laugh to no end.

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Originally posted by Scott:
John Dunham, you responded that it is irrelevant if the score is a great listen besides the movies because a film score is to work in the film. Why do you collect scores then? Why do any of us? Why do we buy cds containing great operas, when they were written to be watched in a theater?

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I don't think you understood what I meant, Scott. M2M is, in my opinion, good music. It is not, however, a good SCORE. I am saying that, in the end, a film score is for the movie, not for us fans. If a score fails in that criteria, no matter how good a listen it may be on it's own, it has failed in it's main purpose.
Basically, I am of two minds. I like the score as music, but I simply cannot enjoy it in context.
I fail to see how the fact that a score can be enjoyed outside a film invalidates my point here.

I did misunderstand you. I got it now. I agree. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Originally posted by Scott:
Andre, I just know you are sitting in the beautiful Brazil jungle, relaxing and enjoing this. I must admit, your comments have made me laugh to no end.
Scott

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"Brazil jungle"?
Hehehehehe... Not bad for someone who probably thinks Buenos Aires is the capital of Brasil, which is located right next to Mexico, right in the middle of Africa...

Say Scott, how's surf the Net inside a McDonalds fighting some serial killers while watching Rambo III on TV??

The movie was horrible. The ending was laughable. Why even try. The alien is the worst piece of CG effects ever created. The music doesn't work at all. It's the good old Morricone trying to be different, trying to be original, with his organ and so-called orchestrations, all he accomplishes is to fall flat on his face. The music was so intruding, so annoying, it took me right out of the movie. All I was thinking was, "Jeez, shut the hell up for a moment!"

The one thing that Hollowood (yes, HOLLOwood) never learns is to know when enough is enough. Trying to make us feel what we're suppose to feel when in a movie. I hate that. When everything else fails, hey let's put some cheesy music in the backround to save it! Well, it didn't work in this case that's for sure. And this comes from a guy who thinks "Once Upon a Time in America" and "Cinema Paradiso" are the greatest soundtracks ever.

And Mister "Always look at the bright side of life", you're pathetic. First of all, if you always look at the bright side of life you're so naive. It's not how it is, and you know it. That's why your posts, being so "oh, I'm laughing at everybody 'cause I'm right, but never telling why, but always look at the bright side of life" posts seem so freaking annoying. We all know you think Morricone is the master, and we know you never will admit when he screws up. Like he did when scoring the wretched so-called piece of whatever called Mission to Mars. I was so sickened when watching this movie, I can't even begin to tell you how godawful it is. It's pure Hollywood schmaltz, from the setup to it's conclusion. Why even try. The music may stand alone as a good listen if you delete that annoying organ, but when watching the movie it makes you laugh and shaking your head. It didn't work, and you know it, Lux, and I do think you know **** from crap. Why do you alway look down on everybody who thinks otherwise with your snappy remarks, then followed by a "look at the bright side of life" remark. It makes yourself look condescending and arrogant, but if that's who you are, that's fine. Yes, I like Zimmer and Media Ventures as much as I like Morricone. But sometimes they fail. Zimmer. Williams. Goldsmith. Morricone. And with "Mission to Mars" Morricone didn't do his job, except make the audience laughing. And Brian DePalma just didn't know when to say "enough is enough" and turn the volume down. It's simple. Mission to Mars sucks. The Film. And the soundtrack. I don't even need to explain why. All you have to do is watch the movie.

I feel so humiliated... Maybe I should creat a new name for me (Tonto, Bobo) too express my opinions...

Nah... I am not a coward...

By the way, as you already know, my review of The Lost World game was not something I wrote because of (or TO cause) any feelings of competition. I had been thinking about writing the review, and when I saw in one of your posts that it was added to the database, I went ahead and wrote it.

while I have no problem with your opinion about this score and movie I would like to add that before you criticize anyone about their outlook of life, perhaps you should get a taste of real life yourself. Some of us have been through many tough times and situations. The ones who insist on looking or concentrating more on the bright side of life are not naive, but have simply learned a particular skill. It may not work for you, that's cool. For some of us it works and for some of us it is even some sort of commandmend.

But I believe it's a lost cause trying to be reasonable with a "Taco"...

Unless you can Look at the Bright Side of Taco...

N.P.: Jô Soares' Music for Bongo and Orchestra

ROFLOL!

You are killin' me!

LOL!

LOL!!!

Ok, that was bad and irrelavent. But Hell, I just had to be tasteless just this ONCE!

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Oh, Bongo...
Thanks for the support. I really needed it!
You are a true friend...

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lol

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Originally posted by Al:
lol
Is "bongo" a food as well?

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As far as I know Bongo is a musical instrument (I'm not sure you can eat it too) AND it's that strange water vehicle Qui-Gon Jin, Oby Wan Kennoby and Jar Jar Binks used to travel through the planet core...

Resistance is... well, you should know the rest.

"Ennio Morricone? Blah! He's just one of these old farts overrated snob composers..."

Now, guess how many of his scores I'd heard at that time???

ZERO!!!!!!! NONE... NADA!!!

Yes, that's true. At that time it was STAR WARS of bust... (the equivalent of today's "Music Vaporizers or dust").

But them I saw THE MISSION...