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Topic: BOND BACK IN ACTION II..... looks to be a good one! Available now (big surprise!)...
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Jeron
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Hey guys... was just clicking around and decided to check out Silva's website. Looky what I found:SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION Themes & Suites by JOHN BARRY And MARVIN HAMLISCH BILL CONTI MONTY NORMAN New Digital Recordings including Previously Unreleased Music 001 The Man With The Golden Gun - Kung Fu Fight/Let’s Go Get ‘Em/In Search Of Scaramanga’s Island
002 The Man With The Golden Gun - Chew Me In Crisly Land/Hip’s Trip/Return To Scaramanga’s Fun House
003 The Man With The Golden Gun - Slow Boat From China*/Nick Nack*/The Man With The Golden Gun
004 The Spy Who Loved Me - Ride To Atlantis
005 The Spy Who Loved Me - The Tanker
006 Moonraker - Arrival At Chateau Drax/Freefall
007 Moonraker - Miss Goodhead Meetsbond/Bond Lured To The Pyramids
008 Moonraker - Flight Into Space
009 For Your Eyes Only Main Theme
010 Octopussy - Bond Meets Octopussy/Bond Look Alike/The Palace Fight
011 A View To A Kill – Suite With Stacey/Fanfare*/Snow Job
012 The Living Daylights – Suite Koskov Escapes/Hercules Take Off
013 The Living Daylights - Mujahadin/Afghanistan Plan
014 The Living Daylights - Air Bond/Necros Attacks
015 The Living Daylights - End Title (Alternative Version)
016 Golden Eye Tank Drive Around St.Petersburg (Film Version) Why hasn't this been mentioned or advertised??? I think this is available... it's up for purchase on the Silva site. Jeron [This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 27 August 2000).]
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posted 08-27-2000 10:35 PM PT (US) ip
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Lou Goldberg
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The Bond Back in Action Volume 1 was so badly done that I really hesitate to pick this up even if it does have Barry cues I don't otherwise own.
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posted 08-27-2000 11:01 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Hmmm... I really enjoyed Vol. 1.... but, then again, before anyone else mentions it, don't forget: I like everything. I always forget about that.
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posted 08-27-2000 11:03 PM PT (US) ip
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Cole
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good job jeron. i am glad to see you making some prgress. its good that u are finally starting to admit these things to yourself and realive what u r doin to those around you. lets keep up the good work...and if you need any help -just let me know =D
np - lord of the rings
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posted 08-28-2000 01:09 AM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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Being the barry expert around here (self proclaimed  ), How'd ya beat me to that info Jeron?! Lou, I thought some of the tracks on Vol.1 were done very well, though Bond meets the Girls/Who Will Buy My Yesterdays from OHMSS and Blofeld's Laser from DAF were totally butchered. Curiously Blofeld's Laser is credited as being previously unrecorded, when in fact it was on the original DAF as 007 and Counting! NP : nothing.....yet!
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posted 08-28-2000 04:25 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Hm, what's wrong with #1? I love it. But then, I got it for my birthday this January, and at that time it was the ONLY Bond music I'd ever heard (except for the famous theme, obiously). Believe it or not, it was only after I got this CD that I finally managed to watch some Bond movies. So, I don't have a single OST Bond CD, but after having seen some movies, I still love my Bond Back in Action album.NP: Pan Tadeusz (Kilar) - Thanks, Timmer!
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posted 08-28-2000 07:21 AM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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I like Bond: Back in Action, also. I'm not real familiar with the original recordings, so the different tempos or whatever don't bother me.
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posted 08-28-2000 07:42 AM PT (US) ip
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ZapBrannigan
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Speaking of unreleased music, I'd like to have the pyramid fight cue from The Spy Who Loved Me.I just love when he says "Hope you enjoyed the show" and the music goes into a crescendo.
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posted 08-29-2000 07:52 AM PT (US) ip
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Darth Fart
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Why hasn't this been advertised? I love Volume One, it's a great taster. Now I want EMI expanded Bond sets.I'm not sure I'll buy Vol2 I have most of the music already.
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posted 08-29-2000 02:34 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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Why doesn't Intrada/Amazon/etc. have this?
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posted 08-29-2000 07:35 PM PT (US) ip
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BMikeJ
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quote:
Originally posted by jonathan_little:
Why doesn't Intrada/Amazon/etc. have this?
I can only speak for Super Collector in this matter. We haven't been offered it yet.
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posted 08-29-2000 11:48 PM PT (US) ip
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AaronR1074
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Ahh cool!
But as it is, I have my own compilations to listen to  MY version of Volume 2 has the following original recordings:Music, Bond Music - Volume 2 1 - 4) Live and Let Die by George Martin
(James Bond Theme/Bond Meets Solitare/Bond Drops In/Tresspassers Will Be Eaten)
5 - 7) The Man With The Golden Gun by John Barry
(Scaramanga's Fun House/Goodnight Goodnight/Let's Go Get 'Em)
8) The Spy Who Loved Me (Bond '77) by Marvin Hamlisch
9 - 11) Moonraker by John Barry
(Cable Car & Snake Fight/Space Lazer Battle/Bong Arrives in Rio & Boat Chase)
12 - 13) For Your Eyes Only by Bill Conti
(Gonzales Takes a Dive/Runaway)
14 - 15) Octopussy by John Barry
009 Gets the Knife/That’s my Little Octopussy
16 - 18) A View To A Kill by John Barry
Snow Job/Bond Meets Stacy/Golden Gate Fight
19 - 21) The Living Daylights By John Barry
Ice Chace/Kara Meets Bond/Hurcules Takes Off While I realize that purchasing a compilation CD sich as Silva's may be cool for those who don't have access to all the CDs, I am very anal about original recordings. I tend to avoid re-recordings. But that's an arguement for another time. Volume one was almost as good as the originals, but as there is alot of percussion in the volume II music, I'm really nervous about how its gonna come out. So I think I'm happy with what I have [This message has been edited by AaronR1074 (edited 30 August 2000).]
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posted 08-30-2000 01:01 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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From what I hear John Barry and Monty Norman will be going to court sometime this coming February, after this case is sorted THEN we can expect to see the new Bond releases, not before!!
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posted 08-30-2000 06:27 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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p.s. Jeron, where the hell is this available from?....nobody seems to know!
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posted 08-30-2000 06:38 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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quote:
Originally posted by Timmer:
From what I hear John Barry and Monty Norman will be going to court sometime this coming February, after this case is sorted THEN we can expect to see the new Bond releases, not before!!
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posted 08-30-2000 07:24 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Jonathan, were you not aware of the dispute between Barry and Norman regarding *who* actually composed the Bond theme? Norman has always been credited, but Barry says he wrote it. Norman disagrees (or else why would he be credited?). Barry contends, "if you composed the theme, why did I score the rest of the films?" ....... it's a big mass of confusion and I suppose that's what they will be sorting out shortly. Finally. Hopefully.Jeron
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posted 08-30-2000 07:36 PM PT (US) ip
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Marcelo Ferreyra
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Somebody said on this board a couple of
months ago that Vol 1 was full of wrong
notes and bad reconstructions of the
scores.
Can somebody clarify that?
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posted 08-30-2000 11:21 PM PT (US) ip
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Lou Goldberg
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Wow, I'm amazed that Barry and Norman are finally going to court over this thing.No gang, I did not like Bond Vol. 1---I'm very familiar with the original cues and these versions were so off the mark it was painful.
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posted 08-30-2000 11:26 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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Hmm, very interesting. Thanks for clueing me in, Jeron. NP: Bond: Back in Action... what wrong notes?
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posted 08-31-2000 06:12 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Wrong notes? Didn't notice any.NP: Pan Tadeusz (Wojciech Kilar)
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posted 08-31-2000 07:53 AM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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Ahhhh Marian, as you readily admit, your not that familiar with the Bond scores, if you haven't heard the originals there really is little point in explaining whats wrong with this album. I must admit though that after a few listens I quite enjoy volume 1, I still can't listen to Who Will Buy My Yesterdays (is someone playing a comb on this?) and the messed up Blofelds Laser which is strangely credited as previously unrecorded, when the original is titled 007 And Counting on the Diamonds Are Forever soundtrack.NP : nothing
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posted 08-31-2000 08:44 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Right, what I meant was that I didn't notice any obviously wrong notes.I guess it's a similar case as Silva's Essential Goldsmith compilation. At first, I was shocked, but now I like most of it. Some pieces are done very annoyingly, e.g. the synthesized blaster in the Trek suite or the final notes of Total Recall. NP: Canto General (Mikis Theodorakis)
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posted 08-31-2000 03:06 PM PT (US) ip
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Jack
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Bond Back in Action II is slated for an October release. And the November WALKABOUT release will include music from THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS.
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posted 09-04-2000 04:47 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Alright Jack! I know you are excited about the GIANTS release... I mean, it doesn't sound like they are releasing the full score... but hey, it's better than nothing!Jeron
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posted 09-04-2000 05:40 PM PT (US) ip
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Jack
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I figure GIANTS will probably just be the main title, but it's better than nothing. Have you seen the film?
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posted 09-04-2000 05:53 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar
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In my opinion Bond Back in Action was a very well done concept album and overall the performances were very good. I for one am looking forward to Bond Back in Action II. I already tried to pick it up a few weeks ago, but nobody seemed to carry it then.NP: Frank Skinner Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror
Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra/Stromberg (Marco Polo) [This message has been edited by Nicolai P. Zwar (edited 05 September 2000).]
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posted 09-05-2000 06:37 AM PT (US) ip
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ActionGuy
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Does this really exist???? I've checked silva's website and can't find a thing about this album.. I just hope it does exist.. I've been a Bond fan for as long as I remember and I would do anything to get my hands on some of those cues... namely the music from the tank chase from Goldeneye. Jeron.. what's the web address where i can find this?
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posted 09-05-2000 06:07 PM PT (US) ip
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Jack
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Action Guy: It's slated for an october release.
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posted 09-05-2000 07:47 PM PT (US) ip
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ActionGuy
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I know that jack... I was just curious where jeron got his info on it.
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posted 09-05-2000 10:48 PM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar
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Probably from Silva's website. When I was there some time ago they had a banner scrolling that it was coming.
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posted 09-06-2000 04:28 AM PT (US) ip
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ActionGuy
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strange, I checked everywhere on silvascreen.com and couldnt find a thing.
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posted 09-06-2000 11:20 AM PT (US) ip
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Lou Goldberg
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Zwar--we seem to be on opposite sides of this arguement. Every re-record I've hated you've praised. Is there a way to get you to see it my way? OK, a lot of original tracks sound bad, that was the recording technology of the day. But their performances, tempos, accuracy of playing can't be matched in most cases. If I were to make a tape for you of the original cues from You Only Live Twice and OHMSS that are on Bond I and followed them with the Bond I versions I can't imagine that you'd want the Bond I versions on CD over the originals. But who knows?
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posted 09-10-2000 02:58 AM PT (US) ip
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Nicolai P. Zwar
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quote:
Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
Every re-record I've hated you've praised.
Lou, that may be simply because I try to judge a recording for what it is worth on its own merrit and not so much on the basis of how much it sounds like the original soundtrack recording.
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posted 09-10-2000 04:04 AM PT (US) ip
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Lou Goldberg
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Nic--See my posting under the 3 Worlds topic. But I must say here that McNeely's versions of Herrmann are far superior to Raine & Bateman's versions of Barry. If you can enjoy these things go ahead--but I know they can be vastly improved upon.Oh, and for the record, there are instances where a later re-record actually surpasses earlier recordings for the soundtrack. My favorite example is Laurie Johnson's First Men in the Moon. The original tracks were issued on Cloud Nine and they pale in comparison with the suite he recorded in the 70s that is on the Varese Avengers CD. If all re-records were like THAT, I wouldn't bitch. [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 09-12-2000]
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posted 09-12-2000 08:54 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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Your so right there Lou, even the re-recording of Captain Kronos surpases the original, the title theme of which can be found on The Hammer Film Music Collection vol.1.
What a shame Laurie Johnson didn't do more film work!
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posted 09-13-2000 03:55 AM PT (US) ip
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H Rocco
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Incidentally: the friction between John Barry and Monty Norman has been going on for decades, and the first I ever heard that Barry actually wrote the original Bond theme was in a 1983, I think, issue of SOUNDTRACK! magazine. The following issue contained a sternly worded letter from a "friend" of Norman's to the effect that Norman wrote the theme, and that's why he's credited with such on each successive picture. I personally believe Barry DID write the theme, but was the lesser "name" at the time, and it was due to contractual restrictions that Norman's name has been used ever since. I even suspect that Barry wrote the subsequent "007" theme (which I actually like just as much) under his own name, in hopes that it might become as popular as the "Norman" theme, and replace it in people's affections. As it transpired, no dice.Didn't Barry basically ghostwrite the majority of the DR. NO score? (I've never seen the film nor heard the album, so can only guess. I bet a single listen would make it abundantly clear, though.)
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posted 09-13-2000 04:06 AM PT (US) ip
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ActionGuy
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I'm with you Rocco, I also believe barry wrote the bond theme. However, I wouldnt be surprised if he did not write the score to Dr. No. In my opinion the best stuff from the film was unreleased until recently on silvas first bond back in action album. In fact, on the Dr. No soundtrack there is a track entitled the james bond theme, when in fact it is just a cheezy island sounding piece. I think norman wrote the score to this film, and did a horrible job at it too. But thats just my own opinion.Action Guy
NP - The Man With the Golden Gun (J. Barry)
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posted 09-13-2000 02:26 PM PT (US) ip
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jonathan_little
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I also think Barry wrote the "James Bond Theme." Who the heck is Monty Norman, anyway? Filmtracks says that Barry was paid 200£ to compose the theme. What a bargain!  NP: Bond: Back in Action [Message edited by jonathan_little on 09-13-2000]
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posted 09-13-2000 03:59 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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Jonathon is right, Barry did only get paid £200 for his work on the Bond theme, I think the score to Dr No is a complete mess right from the mish mash of music in the opening credits to the hilariously over the top music during the 'beating the Tarantula to death with a shoe' sequence (as anyone here who knows me will tell you, I'm not keen on seeing Tarantula's get wasted.....lovely creatures don't ya know! ), the score does have one or two worthwhile moments but nothing to get worked up about.Did you know that John Barry is at the moment scoring the WWII spy film ENIGMA.....The big question is....Will He stay with it?!
I sincerely hope so. NP : The Witches Of Eastwick - Marian Williams errrr John Schedenig errrrrrrrrr
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posted 09-13-2000 04:56 PM PT (US) ip
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Timmer
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p.s. I love Barry's '007' in all it's variations, especially in THUNDERBALL where it's given a damn good workout in the Hydrofoil sequence. I wish Dave Arnold had resurected this for the latest Bond's!
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posted 09-13-2000 05:02 PM PT (US) ip
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