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Ford A. Thaxton

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OK,We've had a number of CD's appear in the last several weeks and almost no discussion (or even comment) about them, have any of you out there picked these up and have any comments (good or bad) about the these discs?
1.) DRAGONHEART-A New Beginning (Mark McKenzie)
2.) KIMBERLY (Basil Poledouris)
3.) THOMAS AND THE MAGIC RAILROAD (Hummie Mann)
4.) The Fox (Lalo Schifrin) (Great new recording)
5.) Hammet (John Barry)
6.) Switchback (Basil Poledouris)
7.) Creature from the Black Lagoon (various)
8.) Music For Films By Charles & Ray Eames (Elmer Bernstein)
9.) The Last Run/Wild Rovers (Jerry Goldsmith)
10.) Sally Hemings (Joel McNeely)
11.) Marnie (New Recording by Joel McNeely)OK, let's hear some opinions...
posted 08-19-2000 10:40 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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Switchback has been out for weeks? I didn't know that!
No store here in the Chula Vista area carries Dragonheart 2 :-( But I'd really like to get it.
I own Kimberly I like it, it's a fun upbeat score combining blues rythms and contemporary jazz with orchestra. But I don't know what to say about certian things in this score that can also be found in James Horner, Rachel Portman and George Fenton scores.I don't have any of the other scores, but I did notice Ford that you forgot to mention Autumn in New York by Gabirel Yared nor Christipher Young's Bless the Child or do you only support Intrada and Varese? :-)
Becuase those are also a fantastic scores! you can read my comments for Aumtumn in New York in the Soundtrack Review section.And I like to mention that ON THE BEACH is still my best CD buy of CDs released this year.
NP Shogun Mayeda by John Scott *****/*****
[This message has been edited by TimT (edited 19 August 2000).]
posted 08-19-2000 11:04 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Uh, Ford, if you took a look around, you would notice that a lot of those on your list have been discussed at great length here! Did you miss those discussions?It's one thing to just come in here and post blindly without checking up on things, it's another to actually insult everyone who's been participating in some good discussion about these scores but suggesting there's been no discussion (or even comment). You managed to get both of these birds with one stone! Great shot!
PeterK
NP - "Last of the Mohicans" by Jones/Edelman
posted 08-19-2000 11:15 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

And Ford, before I forget, what are your thoughts on Thomas and the Magic Railroad? Just wondering how well the score fits the film, and if the score fills your day with bubbly happiness and smiles!PeterK
NP - "Mohicans"
posted 08-19-2000 11:19 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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Do I detect some Rivalry here?Dragonheart 2 has been disscussed alot here.
But I haven't seen anything about Kimberly, Autumn in New York or Bless the Child.
And I have to almost force conversations on ON THE BEACH :-)NP- Shogun Mayeda by John Scott *****/*****
[This message has been edited by TimT (edited 19 August 2000).]
posted 08-19-2000 11:26 AM PT (US) 
Ford A. Thaxton

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MR. KELLY,You might note that MOST of the titles listed have received to quote my post "almost no discussion."
DRAGAONHEART and the Goldsmith titles have to some small degree, however most of the other titles have gotton almost no attention whatsoever in this forum.
The point of the post was to PROVOKE discussion, nothing more.
I'm stunned b you this comments.
<<It's one thing to just come in here and post blindly without checking up on things>>
Mr. Kelly, I tend to review most of the active thrends,most of the titles I listed didn't seem to be getting very much attention.
<<it's another to actually insult everyone who's been participating in some good discussion about these scores but suggesting there's been no discussion (or even comment). You managed to get both of these birds with one stone! Great shot!>>
How you can interpret my original post as some sort of insult makes no sense to me whatsoever.
As to my opinions, I happen to like Mann's score to "Thomas".Do you have any opinions Mr. Kelly on the scores I've mentioned?
If you have a moment, why not post them.
I think it might add to the discussion
Sincerely
Ford A. Thaxton
posted 08-19-2000 11:52 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Hey, I am just pokin' a little fun. I think that's what that little winking icon means. Goodness!PeterK
NP - still "Mohicans"
posted 08-19-2000 12:16 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

I forgot my opinions:I happen to like all of the scores you listed.
Woah!!! The depth hurts my brain.
Ford, what is it about Thomas and the Magic Railroad that makes you like it? You haven't sold me on it yet, and your opinion doesn't seem to differ much from the "I happen to like it" opinion you had Peyton Place.
How about some descriptive words? Thanks!
PeterK
posted 08-19-2000 12:22 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

TimT,There is no rivalry. Ford has just complained to me that everyone on the MovieMusic message boards are "spoiled brats."
I have an awful lot more respect for you all than Ford does, so I take a slight, entertaining bit of offense when he comes in here and tries to PROVOKE discussion. Personally, I feel his approach to provoking discussion is all wrong, expecially when he himself has nothing provoking to say about anything, other than to list a few titles and say they haven't been discussed.
As the administrator and creator of this forum, my goal is to nurture real discussion, hopefully to set this message board apart from all the other movie music-related boards. This is also one of the reasons the shameless plugs forum was created - to clear the non-discourse debris from this one, so we at least have a solid foundation to really DISCUSS.
Hence one of my latest threads, "Discussing this summer's best scores." I asked for people to actually talk about WHY they liked their favorite scores of the summer and not just list them. Of course, lots of lists came through - nurturing valuable DISCUSSION takes time.
I hope it's easy to see why I like to have fun with Ford. He's insulted all of you (and me) by calling us "spoiled brats." I really don't like that, but I am not going to go to war with him, I'm just gonna give him a little rough play on my turf!
Anyone have any complaints? Suggestions?
I am all ears...
PeterK
NP - finishing "Mohicans" (I am actually glad to see a lot of the Edelman stuff is left off the new re-recording - most of it is just filler sound)
posted 08-19-2000 12:43 PM PT (US) 
Ford A. Thaxton

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Mr. Kelly,I'll email you on this matter, but in the furture please quote me correctly, you have failed to do so in your last two messages.
Now returning to the topic, look at the above list of titles and offer your opinions.
posted 08-19-2000 12:54 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Mr. Ford,I've answered you via email, and corrected your statement that serves to confuse me about what you said regarding "spoiled brats." I am not confused, and will not be, especially when it concerns the members of this web site!
Any more words to describe your happiness with Thomas and the Magic Railroad soundtrack?
PeterK
posted 08-19-2000 01:07 PM PT (US) 
Patrick

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Come on you guys! You're both are getting off topic. Keep this up and I'll tell Peter K.
posted 08-19-2000 01:18 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Ahahhaa. I just wanted to use this thread to explain what I am hoping for when we discuss stuff here. My apologies. I will refrain from now on. After all, truthfully, I don't own any one of these CDs, except for the The Last Run on LP and Wild Rovers on the Memoir CD. As I've always thought, these two scores are great. But, to my original point, these have actually been discussed elsewhere on this message board.PeterK
posted 08-19-2000 01:24 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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This thread belongs on Jerry Springer :-DFord I appreciate the fact that you just mean to start a topic regarding opinions on new released scores, that you feel haven't been mentioned much. I Consider it a good contribution to Movie Music.com and I hope you never become discourage from posting topics in the future.
I've responded to the original topic, with my opinions on some new releases above. Now I would like to know exactly why you think I'm a "spoiled brat"? Spoiled because of what? Becuase I like scores? Please explain!
posted 08-19-2000 02:19 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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The Last Run/Rovers disc has the track listings tucked deep into the liner notes. The liner notes must be removed to view the track listing. This is bad, very bad.I was very surprised with The Last Run... it turned out to be a very enjoyable listen!
NP: On The Beach... copy #138?
posted 08-19-2000 07:11 PM PT (US) 
Cole

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MR FORD
posted 08-21-2000 02:44 AM PT (US) 
Cole

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MR FORD
i loved marnie....simply amazing. romantic and gothic and unmistakably herrmman. and a wonderfull performance
MR KELLEY
tell me about the score to kimberley. do u have it? what type of score is it?
MR FORD
what is hammet by barry? even more importantly: is it a wide release or a special order?
MR KELLY
is the dragonheart score really that good or is jeron just being his usual optomistic self?
hehe..ok i will stop being goofy now
NP - i would even miss you (original song by yours truly)
posted 08-21-2000 03:01 AM PT (US) 
TimT

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quote:
Originally posted by Cole:tell me about the score to kimberley. do u have it? what type of score is it?
I mentioned what Kimberly was like, read above.
quote:
is the dragonheart score really that good or is jeron just being his usual optomistic self?Jeron likes everything, so when he says something is good...It may not be helpful.
posted 08-21-2000 08:29 AM PT (US) 
Cole

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thanks for the helpful insight Tim....but if will refer back (lol) to my post you will notice that i adressed my questions to mr ford and mr kelly repsectfully. so if you would be kind enough to butt out i would really appreciate it
posted 08-21-2000 11:44 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Hehehe,Cole that was cruel and funny at the same time and well deserved.
Forgive me for butting in, but did you have your breakfast lately?
Scottyposted 08-21-2000 02:29 PM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

Mr. Cole,Like I said, I don't currently own any of these scores as it stands right now, except for those mentioned a few posts up. So, I don't know what Kimberly sounds like at all. As for Dragonheart 2, I've heard some clips, and it sounds pretty good. From what others have said, it's up there all right, and probably this year's best score in the "straight to video" category. Knowing McKenzie's music, though, I would agree with what everyone's been saying after I actually have the chance to fully listen to it.
As for Ford, he won't answer you. I asked him to talk a little bit more about how he feels about Thomas and the Magic Railroad, but he doesn't seem to want to expound on those bubbly happy feelings he gets from the score. Sometimes there just are no words to describe certain feelings.
Odd, though, that Ford doesn't answer us! He's the one who started this thread! Ah, well.
NP - "Mambo Italiano (Meatball Parmigiana Mix)" from The Crew soundtrack. This album has two score cues from Steve Bartek - small ensemble - I want more!
posted 08-21-2000 03:57 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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The Fox--A hit and miss. I love this score but felt some of the performance wasn't quite up to the original soundtrack (which may have been a re-record for all I know). I preferred the less jazzed-up version of the song that appears on the original LP and missed that neat source piece for Harpsichord. But once you get into the score proper, a lot of the cues are well-rendered.Bernstein/Eames Vol. 1---Once again, I love these scores and these films. I consider House to be one of Bernstein's best scores (although it had already been released on Citadel). I was hoping for a copy of the original tracks to Toccata for Toy Trains without the Charles Eames narration but I guess it doesn't exist. Bernstein could have used the re-record he did for the EB Filmmusic Collection but opted not to. The Polavision scores were fine although they didn't make the strong impression that some of EB's other Eames scores have. I adored the Westinghouse "cantata". The CD has first rate packaging---only fitting that a CD linked to these great designers should have great design itself. Despite my nit-picking, I think Amber Records could be the best thing to hit here in a while. I'm looking forward to Volume 2 and some of their proposed CDs--I can only hope they get to accomplish what they plan.
More on Hammett, Marnie, and MMM 3 in the future.
posted 08-23-2000 11:28 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
