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    Topic:   Obscure Film Music References

     Kevin
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    Last night while watching the first night of Shark Week on the Discover Channel (sorry, but I think sharks are neat), the narrator made a familiar reference.

    He was snorkeling with white sharks sans a cage (eagh!). When he got back up to the boat, he mentioned "All that time, I had the music from that film in my head. And then he starts humming the Jaws theme. That was great!

    So... has anyone else seen a character in a movie or television show make a reference to a musical score? I know there are always references to movies and shows, but usually not the music.

    Kevin
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    posted 08-14-2000 10:33 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    I loved the episode of Friends called 'the one with the Princess Leia fantasy' becuase besides all the Star Wars references, Ross was singing the Main Titles when Rachel walked into his room.

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    posted 08-14-2000 11:06 AM PT (US)     

     Brad Wills
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    In the movie BEST DEFENSE Kate Capshaw, post IJATTOD, sings the Raiders March as she sits in a car. It's the only laugh in the picture.

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    posted 08-14-2000 11:08 AM PT (US)     

     Shivered_McTimber
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    Well, this wasn't exactly a reference, but about a year ago, there was a documentary on "The Pope" on PBS or PAX, I think. I remember hearing John Williams' "Duel of the Fates" playing in the background at one point or another.

    ~Shivered

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    posted 08-14-2000 07:39 PM PT (US)     

     Todd Reifinger
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    When the shuttle takes off in "Airplane II: The Sequel," you can hear the theme from "Battlestar Galactica." That's kinda neat.

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    posted 08-14-2000 08:03 PM PT (US)     

     Al
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    I was channel-surfing one afternoon and heard a cue from "Deep Rising" used as underscore in some soap opera. Odd.

    There's other stuff as well that I've mentioned in topics such as these before. Saturday Night Live used Goldsmith and Herrmann music from The Twilight Zone series in a Sprocket's skit(Invaders, Walking Distance). And a Christopher Walken skit parody of The Dead Zone character used Hellbound: Hellraiser 2.

    Man... no telling how many times I've posted that. I apologize to my fellow long-time members of this board for making you read that yet again.


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    posted 08-14-2000 09:09 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    Some of my favorite are:

    -The brief "Yoda" line in "E.T.'s Halloween".

    -The brief "Ark of the Covenant" line in "Last Crusade".

    -Patrick Doyle's nod to "Superman" in "Quest for Camelot".

    -The Duane Eddy "Broken Arrow" riff used in "Scream 2". (Ironically a theme used for a villain turned into a heroic motif.)

    And other obscurities like hearing "Lawrence of Arabia" in "The Spy who Loved Me"...Or the theme from "Zorro: The Gay Blade" being used as the Pirate Theme in "Goonies" (Though I suspect that the Zorro theme was lifted from somewhere else....)


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    posted 08-14-2000 09:32 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    Reference No. 1:
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    A conversation in the hilarious movie Free Enterprise:

    Guy #1: "Hey, maybe she'll turn out like Catherine Tramell in Basic Instinct, you know, one day she'll just shove an ice pick in his nose."

    Guy #2: "He'd probably enjoy that; killed by a naked blonde who doesn't where underwear, and at the strains of a Jerry Goldsmith score -- come to think of it, I'd probably enjoy that myself."

    Also, in the end credits of the movie, Lukas Kendall and Jeff Bond are both listed as "Additional Voices" (NOTE: The end credits of that particular film are LOADED with jokes.)


    Reference No. 2:
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    In one episode of Late Night with Conan O'Brien, Andy Richter visited Space Camp and music from Conan the Barbarian was used throughout the montage (although music from SpaceCamp would've been more appropriate).

    James
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    posted 08-14-2000 10:31 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    A Janitor whistles Goldfinger as Bond walks by in On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

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    posted 08-15-2000 06:04 AM PT (US)     

     MWRuger
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    Lanelot, Your are correct in guessing that The Goonies pirate music was lifted. It is from "The Adventures of Don Juan" by Max Steiner.


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    posted 08-15-2000 08:10 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    In Spielberg's Always, Richard Dreyfuss whistles the theme from Max Steiner's They Died with their Boots On (I asked for this in a trivia thread some weeks ago and then forgot to reveal the answer).

    In Dead Again, one of the main characters (an opera composer) is asked on a party to compose a film score. In the next scene, a woman asks him if he's in the movie business. He says he's a composer, and she is obviously disappointed.

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    posted 08-15-2000 11:24 AM PT (US)     

     dante
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    As I've mentioned before in Holland we have a Dating show called "All You Need Is Love" which uses music from The Rock and not the slow stuff but the action cues.
    Also since I'm a big WWF fan I found out that the discovery channel uses in an ad for one of their shows the Hardy Boyz entrance theme, but I don't know if many of you recognize it, and I don't know the name of the show.

    ---Dante

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    posted 08-15-2000 01:07 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    Marian, you notice how the woman that poo-poohs Branagh as a composer at the party is also the same woman who's the sister taking care of Emma Thompson at the beginning of the film?

    That's right: Disrespect film music in this life, and you'll be reincarnated as a nun in the next.

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    posted 08-15-2000 02:13 PM PT (US)     

     charben
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    In the aforementioned Goonies, William's Superman theme is stated when Sloth rips off his shirt to reveal a T-shirt w/ the S-symbol on it. In the Iron Giant, when Hogarth shows the Superman comic to the Giant, you can hear a quiet quote of the Williams Superman theme. It is quoted again in the end credits music.

    Chris Harben
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    posted 08-15-2000 08:02 PM PT (US)     

     Jack
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    Always love it in the Simpsons when they toss in a little film music. Gives an extra chuckle to those of us in the know.

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    posted 08-15-2000 08:07 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    In the movie High Fidelity, a bunch of kids steal some LPs, one of which is by Ryuichi Sakamoto (sp?).


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    posted 08-16-2000 04:35 AM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    Wouldn't Williams' theme in Iron Giant be a non-diegetic anachronism?

    In Octopussy, Bond recognizes his India contact because he plays the James Bond theme on his snake-charmer flute. Okay, that's something of a self-reference, but it's still pretty cool.

    Here's another easy Bond one. The code for the door in Moonraker is the five-note motif from Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

    In The Cable Guy, when Jim Carrey gets the Ahn-Woon, Gerald Fried's battle music from the Star Trek episode "Amok Time" is heard. The same piece is heard in an episode of Futurama when the human has to fight the big lobster guy.

    The opening of Twilight Zone: The Movie has Dan Aykroyd and Albert Brooks playing "Guess the TV Theme."

    In Twelve Monkeys, there is a scene where the previously brunette Madeline Stowe dyes her hair blonde at a movie theater playing Vertigo. As Bruce Willis sees her (and recognizes her from his dreams), the sequences in the two films echo one another and the "Scene d'Amour" from Vertigo is heard on the soundtrack.

    Hey, let's not forget that in Airplane II Lalo Schifrin's Mission: Impossible theme is heard when the computer kills Peter Graves. Whoops. Spoiler. Sorry.

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    posted 08-16-2000 05:45 AM PT (US)     

     MWRuger
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    The incredibly strange cooking show, The Iron Chef, uses music from Back Draft.

    As the camera pans slowly over the hushed kitchen stadium, the Back Draft music swells and a voice says "Who's cuisine will reign supreme, the challenger or the Iron Chef?"

    Great Stuff!


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    posted 08-16-2000 08:28 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Lancelot:
    Marian, you notice how the woman that poo-poohs Branagh as a composer at the party is also the same woman who's the sister taking care of Emma Thompson at the beginning of the film?

    That's right: Disrespect film music in this life, and you'll be reincarnated as a nun in the next.


    No, but I knew that there are two characters which appear in both "times" of the movie. The other one is Patrick Doyle himself. He's also at that party (I didn't spot him there myself yet), and later (or earlier... ) he's the policemen in the elevator.

    The first time I ever heard the Patton theme was in one Simpsons episode!

    What about the Ark theme in Indy 3?
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    posted 08-16-2000 08:38 AM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Hey, what about the Clear And Present Danger quote in Apollo 13 and The Perfect Storm? Hilarious, ain't it? In all three films, there is a clear and present danger! NOW we get it, right?

    Shaun

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    posted 08-16-2000 12:25 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    LOL. Shaun, some of us were suspicious right from the beginning when James Horner picked up that assignment. D'oh!

    And others continue to kid themselves, thinking "That's not what this is about!! NO!!"

    PeterK

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    posted 08-16-2000 12:32 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    (I mentioned Last Crusade earlier....)

    Doesn't Jim Carrey himself do that "Amok Time" theme, chasing Broderick around in THE CABLE GUY: "Dah-da-DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH-dat-da-DAH..."

    And on the Bond thing....MOONRAKER also features a western nod to Bernstein--Though it has been a while since I last saw--wasn't it the "Magnificent Seven" theme?

    The Simpsons usage of the "Great Escape" theme (Maggie and the Ayn Rand Day Care Center) and opening of the one episode featuring the "Escape from Peru" cue from RAIDERS have been two of televisions' most quality moments....

    And on the topic of "Airplane", they had a pretty hilarious nod to "Jaws"...

    Does anyone remember if or when "The Price is Right" used to use...(was it Goldsmith's "Star Trek" theme or Barry heroic "Black Hole" theme?) to underscore their "Showcase Showdown"? [Ah, The things we remember from childhood....]

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    posted 08-16-2000 01:37 PM PT (US)     

     Jack
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    Ok. We have two of the (at least) five musical jokes in Moonraker. Anybody got any more?

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    posted 08-16-2000 01:54 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    We didn't list Jack Nicholson whistling the main theme in Witches of Eastwick yet, did we? And wasn't it John Williams himself who did the actual whistling for this?

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    posted 08-16-2000 05:22 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    2 of 5?

    Got the CE3K ref....Got the Bernstein ref...

    Hmm....

    The film does contain an abundance of brief classical music cues. (At least, moreso than any other Bond film. e.g., Drax playing the piano, the Vienna-like cue in the hovercraft through Venice, Tchiakovsky's Romeo-and-Juliet swell after Jaws is dug out of the wreckage...among some others.)

    Is there some kind of Nino Rota-esque cue with the funeral boat in Venice...?

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    posted 08-16-2000 07:41 PM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    This is a real fun topic.

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    posted 08-17-2000 09:19 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Not exactly an onscure reference, but does anyone remember 'Grumpy Old Men' and the incident of the fish stinking up Matthau's car?

    Everytime the fish was involved in the action, Silvestri gave a nod to Jaws.

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    posted 08-17-2000 04:06 PM PT (US)     

     Todd Reifinger
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    No one's mentioned "The Basket Game" in "Temple of Doom."

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    posted 08-17-2000 07:53 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    A sketch on SNL involving John Travolta being a gay vampire used Morricone's Wolf score.

    ANOTHER sketch that involves some kind of office building, they used (seriously) Goldsmith's Night Crossing "Main Title". Cool.

    Shaun

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