This isn't a comment made to offend any individual here. I don't think the message board needs to be given grammar lessons about what "YOU" means and such. We're pretty bright people. It's obvious what an opinion is.

When someone says "a score sucks." Everyone knows it's just that person's personal opinion, no matter how badly it is worded. There's no need to tell this individual that he just stated an opinion- just as there's no need stating that birds can fly.

I do think people may need to word opinions without the phrase "sucks." But I also think that people should be a little more patient and not overreact when it is used.

But then again... as you know... just as there are stars in the sky... this is my opinion.

JJ's original post doesn't imply that Rabin's scores suck, but rather that he tends to get assignments to score films that suck.

Here we go:
Is a director conceding to the fact that his film will suck when he hires John Williams, or John Barry, or JNH, or James Horner, or Trevor Jones, or Basil Poledouris, or Jerry Goldsmith? <-- surely this rememdies the situation. Now I have offended all the big composers.

We don't ask people to specifically state that it is there opinion when they say "I like a certain composer or score", so why should we expect them to state the obvious when they say they don't like something.

There is a big difference between JJH saying he doesn't like Rabin and your "name-calling", you big meany.

I mean... just listen to "Beetlejuice" Main Title...

Just like call Goldsmith the "Clan-Clan King"!

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Originally posted by cinema:
Man none of you "Rabin haters" reilize that we are heading into a new age of composing and Trevor Rabin is one of the leader. MY GOD it sickins me everytime I see people saying Rabin sucks, my god get a life!!

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Okay, for the record, I like Deep Blue Sea, but if Trevor Rabin is LEADING us into a new era of composing, I have serious doubts about the future of film music. I don't care for electric guitars or hard rock to be mixed into the film scores(For the record, I hate M:I2, and Gone In Sixty Seconds does not sound promising. I haven't seen the movie, so I really can't judge the score, but still...)
Rabin has potential, but only if he can move away from stuff like the beginning of DBS's "Anarchy" and into stuff more like "Aftermath".
Just my own opinion, so don't go getting sick from it.

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Originally posted by John Dunham:
Okay, for the record, I like Deep Blue Sea, but if Trevor Rabin is LEADING us into a new era of composing, I have serious doubts about the future of film music.

Rabin has potential, but only if he can move away from stuff like the beginning of DBS's "Anarchy" and into stuff more like "Aftermath".

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Spot on there, John. Well Said.

For the record, I like Armageddon in addition to Deep Blue Sea. I think that the guy knows how to write good themes.

Trevor Rabin as the leader of a new age of composing? My god, it'll be a sad day when he becomes the status of a John Williams and begins snagging all of the Oscars.

But maybe this will happen because technology will be so advanced that instruments can be
duplicated flawlessly into synthesized form, making Goldsmith, Morricone, Broughton and others no longer needed because the synthesizer squad will save studios and producers so much money.

It makes me shudder.

I'd suggest that Rabin leave Media Ventures, but what the hell has Mancina been doing since Tarzan?

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Rabin's Armageddon theme is Edelman's Dragonheart theme. Listen to it.

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Come on, now you're really grasping at straws.

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Originally posted by André Lux:

Armageddon? Theme?

Always tought that was someone smashing the synthesyzer with a dead cat!

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Hehehehehehe...Good one Andre, I must admit I got a good laugh outta that one. Although I will admit Armegeddon is one of my guilty pleasures.

I will have to listen to those two themes very closely to see if I can hear what you are talking about.

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Man none of you "Rabin haters" realize that we are heading into a new age of composing and Trevor Rabin is one of the leader. MY GOD it sickins me everytime I see people saying Rabin sucks, my god get a life!!

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ah, tell that to John Corigliano, Oscar winner from 1999 for The Red Violin, and a man at the forefront of musical composition for more than 2 decades. A man that knows what music does.

I'll quit saying Rabin stinks, or that I disagree with his style, when he quits "composing" for films.
fair deal?

goodness gracious, electronics do have a place I admit, but deafening me is not one the way to do it.
I'll take Fight Club or Angelo Badalamenti, or (gasp!) a Maurice Jarre electronic score ANY day over Rabin's style.

Indeed, I already have.

woo-hoo!!