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Topic: Finally saw the Patriot

Scott

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Loved it!Don't care if it was inacurate, it was great entertainment. The scene when the little girl spoke to Gibson for the first time and ran after him brought tears in my eyes.
The music was as perfect as can be. I apreciate the score more than I did before. Certain section where I wondered why Williams composed it the way he did, were finally answered. I just wish he would have left the opening cue on the cd out and replaced it with the night scene at the beginning of the movie, what a moving cue that was.
All of this is, of course, only my, uneducated, opinion.
Scott
posted 08-10-2000 08:13 AM PT (US) 
Audacity

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Scotty,This is one that I missed in the theatre, can't wait to see it on DVD. I bought the score and I love it, I'm glad to hear that it is even better in the movie.
Audacity
posted 08-10-2000 08:37 AM PT (US) 
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The Patriot comes out on vhs and dvd Oct. 24th.
posted 08-10-2000 11:49 AM PT (US) 
sean

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How the hell could you cry in that film?!?!?!?!?!?It was just lame American propaganda.
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posted 08-11-2000 01:59 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Lol,well, Sean,
I don't know. Call me patriotic. Call me sissy. Call me an idiot. I just know the tears just came running.
Scott
posted 08-11-2000 02:15 PM PT (US) 
Scorro
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I too finally saw The Patriot last weekend, and had mixed feelings about it. There were a lot of good elements in place for a truly epic, memorable, and potentially important (having something to say) film, but other unnecessary elements were included which became significant limiting factors.Case in point: Opening comic sequence with the rocker was unnecessary, cliche (slapstick stuff been done before), and not really very funny anyway. Plus, this guy has time ( a precious commodity on a farm) to build several bad rockers, an item which any utilitarian man of his day should be able to understand a viable piece of furniture from a fiasco... especially the hero.
I will hold the specific analysis to that one scene, but when movie opened with it I knew they were going to go overboard with more than just that. There's a lot to be said for the art of being subtle with a screenplay.
Visually, the movie was magnificant, and the actors and actresses were well chosen for their parts. A better screenplay would have made the movie Oscar worthy.
Sorry for the contrary opinion, but that's what these boards are for... discourse.

Oh yeah, the score was quite good, I will check it out sometime and hear what it sounds like on the CD.
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posted 08-11-2000 03:12 PM PT (US) 
Jens Dietrich

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I have to admit that I also absolutely loved The Patriot. God knows when I go to see a movie I don't go to have a history lesson. When I go to see a movie it is to see great acting, story line, great cinematography and a magnificent score and this movie had all of this.
posted 08-11-2000 07:30 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Jens and I agree?What has the world come to...
posted 08-11-2000 07:36 PM PT (US) 
Scott

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Jens and I agree?What has the world come to...
Good to see ya again Jens.
Scott
posted 08-11-2000 07:38 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Scott,
I too am a sucker for Patriotism in film. When I first saw The Postman, the whole "only a member can challenge" sequence at the end was incredibly inspiring (for a fight sequence, even!). I saw it again recently, and absolutely loathed the film, but still loved this scene.I didn't think they set up the daughter-not-speaking bit in The Patriot well enough for it to be moving. It was odd, actually.
FIRST SCENE SHE SPEAKS IN: I hate him, I hate my father!
SECOND SCENE, IN WHICH SHE SEES HER FATHER: (nothing)
THIRD SCENE, AS GIBSON IS LEAVING: I love you, daddy!
I don't know, thought it was missing something.
Still, I bawled like a little girl.
ShaunNP---The Last Run
posted 08-11-2000 07:40 PM PT (US) 
Scorro
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I don't know, thought it was missing something.
What was missing was background setup to make the situation integral to the storyline. Rather, his youngest daughter holds a position alongside the rocker, a means to an end.No, it's not essential that the movie be a history lesson, but it does need to stay reasonably faithful to the times to maintain plausibility and interest. Now that I am fully aware that Roland Emmerich (Godzilla, Independence Day, Stargate) directed this film, it's considerably easier to understand the approach taken.
As I mentioned before, the movie has its good points; it just could have been so much more.
Ride With The Devil (directed by Ang Lee) was finally released to VHS recently. This is another wartime period drama; excellent cast, direction and screenplay. RWTD takes a much different approach in maintaining its focus on an effective storyline without resorting to formulated techniques. Of course, the critics generally panned the movie, which saw virtually no distribution and was probably a financial flop. So, once again it's easier to understand the approach taken with The Patriot. It may not be a runaway success, but it will earn its way at the box office.
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posted 08-11-2000 10:04 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
