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Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	All right, PeterK, enough is enough. I think we all know who litmus tester is. I know this is becoming a recurring thread, but for the love of God, KNOCK IT OFF! What we SHOULD do is have a MANDATORY "actual name" policy. I also realize that others have already written this, and with greater words, but I post under my real name. Shaun Rutherford. That's me. I post what I'm thinking. When I say something stupid (see anything I've posted in the last week or so), hey---that's Shaun Rutherford, the idiot. I don't post under a different name if I want to insult people. My picture's up on the profiles site. MY picture. Not a 13th century druid prince, or a picture lifted from a magazine. That's me. We're supposed to be a family here. One big, weird-looking family, with one mother (and nine banjos). Just like in any family, people are the butt of jokes (see Jeron as "Mr. Positive", for example; also JJ as "The One God Gave Three Ears, One Of Them Made Of Tin"---these are jokes, and should be taken as such). You should HEAR some of the things my family calls me ("Get away from me!"; "I'm calling the police"; "That's not 50 yards!"). Think about this. None of us are vitally important to the world of film music. That we should have to remain anonymous to talk about it is ridiculous. We're not spoiled brats. We're not "fanboys". We're just people (some of us are several) who HAPPEN to listen to soundtracks. Just 1% of music listeners. That includes people like Thaxton, Kendall, and all the rest of the schmucks who are in places of minimal "power" within the industry. We're all the same, some of us are just more self-important and arrogant about it. (crickets....) Remember, kids---as the old man told me, "Only forest fires can prevent bears." Stop with the double identities. Consider changing your screen names to your real names. I'm sure nobody here is going to kill you if they know your real name. Signed, "The Rambler"
posted 08-09-2000 01:02 AM PT (US)

Kevin Oscar® Winner	Shaun, I've always went by my real name on here, and have always tried to remain above the petty bickering and squabbling that goes on. Maybe that's why I don't post (or read) a lot here anymore. I'm sick of all this crap that passes for messages nowadays. I got on here for a reason, and it's not silliness. Don't get me wrong, i'm all for fun, but where it is applicable. Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't know who "litmus tester is." I don't hang around here enough I guess. I emailed Peter about this a few weeks ago. I too am sick of this multiple identities crap (what is this, a casting call for the new Sybil* movie?). People have to remember that this is his* site, and we are all here as his guests. None of us have a right to be here, and he can demand any type of conduct he wishes. If people don't like it, they can leave. It's not a public place, Moviemusic.com, and being here doesn't give anyone the right to say what they wish. Freedom of speech doesn't apply here, and if Peter wants to crack down on some of the "idiots" and "troublemakers" then it's his right as the own of this site. So don't do whining about censorship and the like. It doesn't apply here. It's just like going to a friend's house. If you start causing trouble, you will be asked to leave. If you don't leave, maybe the police will be called. I sure wouldn't want some of the people here at my house, not the way they act here. I'd be on the phone to the cops in a minute. And failing that, I might just pull out the old .45 ACP. If you don't like the rules Peter has set up, then get out. Those of us who abide by his rules won't miss you at all. Kevin
posted 08-09-2000 07:43 AM PT (US)

SEBULBA Oscar® Winner	I don't know if it's possible, but maybe Peter could make it so you can't have more than one identity. If it's based on an email address. Of course, I guess you could plug in any address and create a new identity. Hmmm. Ya, come on people. I went by the name of Sebulba, becuase when I first came to this site, many people went by handles, so I did also. But I have no problem letting people know who I am. Many of you know already. Chris Olson. That's my name. Maybe I'll change my identity to my real name.
posted 08-09-2000 07:52 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	No no!! Don't go changing names! A handle is perfectly fine, as long as we stick with it. As for double identities, most of you know I am not a big fan of them. If they get outta hand again (perhaps they are? I've been busy doing non-detective work), we shouldn't be surprised one day to see all of the multiple IDs removed from the system. If you feel all of these double and triple idents are getting in the way of good discussion, or if you'd just like to contribute to outing or removing the multiple personalities, please email with a list of who you think is who and which names need to be axed. I'm trying to get a soundtrack store open here!! Thanks for your help, PeterK NP - "Guns for San Sebastian" by Morricone (the score that replaced Goldsmith's score, which itself replaced Morricone's first attempt! )
posted 08-09-2000 08:02 AM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	I don't have a problem with handles, even though I don't use one (MWRuger = Michael W Ruger). I don't like multiple identities however. As I said on the other thread: "The best solution is to be honest in your replies and have the integrity to say what you really believe, not just what will inflame, and stand by it. People will admire you more, even if they don't agree, if you have the integrity of your principles. Part of that integrity is letting people know who you are."
posted 08-09-2000 08:09 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Oscar® Winner	What I think we're talking about here is a certain abuse of a privilege. Those of us who handles did it because it was either popular, fun, or designed to protect our identity. Meeting people through the net can be a benefit or a hazard. Truth is, some people prove themselves outside of that handle, should you ever meet them, unless in other instances they turn out to be obsessive abusive people you choose not to be around for the peace of mind one needs to live. Sebulba is one of the few people I've actually contacted outside the message board and have done so off and on for about a year. He's quite generous and mature, I look forward to meeting him in California next week. There are, however people who like to play games through this board- these are people I have not discounted, but are quite wary of. This message board is a community. My feeling is it should be regarded in a manner where we have neighbors in an apartment complex- you may not like them for whatever reason- but they're close to you and you're close to whatever flame you intend to raise into a fire, so some common courtesy must be shown. There is no monitor for such on the net typically except under certain restrictive circumstances- the kind I'm sure we want to avoid. I called myself Widescreen for personal reasons, nothing to do with size mind you, except of course for my imagination. But I'm proud to let anyone know my name. It's on the member profiles. E-mail me otherwise, but let's respect each other here. Those who can't better understand that such an act would put them at risk to be ousted from the community they found a home in. Such a reprimand falls on deaf ears, because we've got too many trustees of modern brain puzzles hanging around, and they understand their rights better than we can ever estimate. They come and go here as they please, I am no gatekeeper to which they should answer, but maybe it's time to consider a permanent post of terms of etiquette, I know there's one upon signing up, but one where it can be clicked on to read at all times, and sent as a reminder e-mail once their messages has been recognized as a need for monitorring. Just a thought...
posted 08-09-2000 08:11 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by MWRuger: "The best solution is to be honest in your replies and have the integrity to say what you really believe, not just what will inflame, and stand by it. People will admire you more, even if they don't agree, if you have the integrity of your principles. Part of that integrity is letting people know who you are." That's what most of us do all the time, no matter how controversial what we are saying is. But them the multi-identities punks ("RobboKennyRogers", "litmustester", "vulcantouch", etc, etc) appear to say what they don't have courage to say using their real names or at least a unique nickname... How bold...
posted 08-09-2000 08:27 AM PT (US)

Scorro Oscar® Winner	On the average I can't say that I've noticed a direct correlation between use of handles/'real names' and the civility of the messages. A visitor can create a 'real name' (call themselves Joe Schmoe) and no one would be the wiser. Likewise they can create multiple 'real names' and identities which cannot be tracked (free ISP's all over the place). It's a matter of employing good manners, or not. _Me
posted 08-09-2000 08:47 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	Ditto!
posted 08-09-2000 08:54 AM PT (US)

litmus tester unregistered	Gosh, I never knew a soapbox could accomodate so many...unless, of course, you're all really just one identity masquerading as the 'Granny Brigade'.
posted 08-09-2000 10:51 AM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	Shaun! you pointed out my superfluous 3rd Ear! damn you!
posted 08-09-2000 11:04 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Geeeesh, exactly what I was thinking, JJ. Shaun, how dare you label me as "Mr. Positive!" I resent that! (Grumble, grumble...) (cue JJ's "boobies..." wav) Jeron [This message has been edited by Jeron (edited 09 August 2000).]
posted 08-09-2000 11:16 AM PT (US)

Kevin Oscar® Winner	And now... the personal spamming and flaming has begun. Time to change the email settings on here. Since some momma's boy doesn't have the stones to face us all together. I guess if certain people were at my house, I wouldn't call the cops. I'd shoot them where they stood, and bury the bodies in the back field. K
posted 08-09-2000 11:58 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Kevin, you speak of such violence! Shaun
posted 08-09-2000 12:05 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Oh, I forgot to post the email. This is what we're dealing with, folks. We all know what "vt" is trying to do, and it's pathetic. Subject: http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/003656.html To: whisper@keyconn.net From: Anonymous <anonymous@anonymizer.com> X-abuse-complaints: abuse@anonymizer.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:24 -0700 X-RCPT-TO: <whisper@keyconn.net> sr: "I think we all know who litmus tester is" -well, I think we all know that sr is likely referring to Me, the notorious, banned-for-life (or so pk intends) vt vt is amused- his ongoing campaign has given rise to such a state of paranoia that the more babyish, lapdoggish members do his work For him, via indignant hissies. good work, fellas hate 2 disappoint ya sr, but you're not even close :P keep trying though- blind luck just might bag ya a bullseye eventually kevvy: "he can demand any type of conduct he wishes. If people don't like it, they can leave" -and if pk don't like Us, He can (attempt to) enforce "order". you expect Us to do it For him? that may be Your self-appointed raison-d'etre kevvy, but it ain't ours :P "being here doesn't give anyone the right to say what they wish" -do you hear Me saying anything about "rights"? i'm carrying out a righteous VendeTta, period. right's got nuthin to do with it. and as far as i'm concerned, pk's original actions bear the true responsibility for his community's current travails. i'm simply implementing the inevitable. wanna interfere? you're welcome to try :P "If you don't like the rules Peter has set up, then get out" -i'm curious- who made You pk's mouthpiece? pk himself? lux: "the multi-identities punks('RobboKennyRogers', 'litmustester', 'vulcantouch', etc, etc) appear to say what they don't have courage to say using their real names" -try as you might to attach moral judgments to such actions, courage (a subject about which you have Squat to say, btw) has nuthin' to do with it. "the right tool for the right job" has Everything to do with it. in addition, i have it on good authority that you yourself are a sneaky, nasty little ****, lux. so what's good for the goose. . . lt- i have reviewed your record [message board search results for "litmus tester" removed] and i must say, though i can't be Certain who you are any more than pk can (i assume he doesn't know for sure who you are since he hasn't banned you yet; i assume you are using an accesspoint other than your usual one, such as a friend's, a netcafe's, a library's or school's, to throw him off the scent? smart boy ), it seems clear that you & i may soon be on the same page, if we aren't already. so feel free to be in touch- we can always use another good man posse leader vt vulcantouch@hotmail.com (shrugging icon?) Shaun [This message has been edited by PeterK (edited 09 August 2000).]
posted 08-09-2000 12:10 PM PT (US)

Tim_P Oscar® Winner	Wow. I think there's some people who need to turn off their computer, go outside, take a walk, and think of ways they could better their lives... rather than spend their time posting under different names on a messageboard, which seen within the grand scheme of life, is pretty insignificant.* This multiple identity thing is ludicrous. Tim *-I'm not putting down the MB of PeterK's work as I know many friendships and such have sprung from people using this board...
posted 08-09-2000 12:28 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	This is soooo pathetic. I have nothing else to say. PeterK
posted 08-09-2000 12:47 PM PT (US)

Kevin Oscar® Winner	Well Shaun, it just comes down to the fact that those of us here (and you're included) try to have a good time, but we are always thwarted by the forces of evil. And evil must be destroyed. I reported that email to the abuse dept. from where it was sent from. Nothing is really anonymous. Even if he gets another account, it can be terminated. Peter, I think people should be required to petition to get on here. More control is better. It will make all of our lives better. Kevin
posted 08-09-2000 02:52 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I have no problem at all with screen names, although I've been using my real name since I first posted at the FSM board 2 (or was it 3?) years ago. I also respect that some people don't want everybody to know their real name. Fine, they still are the same person (I guess), so what difference does the name make? But that whole multiple identity thing is pure nonsense. No matter what name you use, as long as you only use that one name, everybody knows that it's you. But when you start using more than one name, that's just some sort of deception. It's gone so far that most of us (including me) seem to get suspicious whenever a new (?) member signs on. Is he really new? Or is it just another alter ego? And if it IS in fact a new member, I wouldn't be surprised if he disappears, disgusted of all the messages he read here. NP: Tristan & Isolde (Richard Wagner)
posted 08-09-2000 03:20 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	You know what? I have one more word to add. Pathetic. PeterK NP - "Movie Memories" on Varese
posted 08-09-2000 05:11 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Well, I am one who was told he was a ****** by litmus tester, vt, whoever, he is. I am not offended, I mean after all, apparently I got him upset over something. I don't think anyone should have to partician. Just don't pay any attention to the vts etc. Once I knew who he was, you know, it's like a monkey on your back. Shake 'em off and drop 'em off to the nearest zool. I think if we all stay calm, respond apropiately and stop taking things so personal all will be well, and PeterK might just get a good night's sleep. (Not that he already does). Scott (or mr. ? What did he call me...see, already forgot)
posted 08-09-2000 07:49 PM PT (US)

Boris Oscar® Winner	My name isn't really "Boris". It's Edgar Boris Ericcson. Boris Karloff was the great uncle on my mother's side of the family. Come visit me at my home in Barclay, Maryland anytime and you'll see that I am indeed very real.
posted 08-09-2000 08:05 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	Oh yeah, RIGHT Boris! And my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfather was Edgar "Christopher" Columbus!
posted 08-09-2000 08:12 PM PT (US)

litmus tester unregistered	Perhaps, if a $2.50 surcharge were applied to each and every one of your credit cards every time you posted a reply, the excess drivel that passes for discourse on this board might come to a stop. The source of your troubles people are not the likes of VulcanTouch, his multiple personalities and 'they're' sucker bait posts, nor I, who lacks the patience for busy-bodies like Lancelot who seems to have been given free reign by the lot of you here to operate his own Inquisitionary trials. It is yourselves. Do you really suppose anyone one comes to this board with deliberate ill will in mind? Are you so full of yourselves to believe that I, or any other so-called host of "evil" take no better delight than to upset 'your' rickety applecart? If you spent less time posing as experts on the human condition and actually spoke to the purpose of this board these forments would evaporate, disappear. Indeed, if more of you actually logged on with something of merit to say in the first place you might realize to what degree this board is clogged with the excesses of bored individuals who have nothing better to do than share their boredom with the rest of us. What's truly pathetic Peter...are your low expectations for your own creation. Perhaps you should go into the business of running a day-care since this is as much as you've accomplished thus far. It would certainly be more profitable. So everyone, gather togethor, pile the ******s, light your torch, ...you have another witch hunt to busy your bored little selves with. NP: my own clear conscience P.S. By the way Peter, f-a-g-g-o-t has more than one meaning. Surrendering your editorial control to automation, and the remosrations of majority rule demonstrates your obvious disinterest. [This message has been edited by litmus tester (edited 10 August 2000).]
posted 08-10-2000 12:10 AM PT (US)

Patrick Oscar® Winner	Although I haven't posted much,I've been a member for several months and for the most part I have very much enjoyed the message board. More than enjoyed. Actually at times I have sat there in stunned amazement and marveled at the incredible array of bright minds that delve into interesting topics. Then along comes VT or LT and every body gets all bent out of shape over what they submit and how they pick on Peter K. Since Peter k.does an excellent job of taking care of himself in a very mature and laid back manner and doesn't stoop to the whale ---- level of VT and LT (He reminds me of Giles from Buffy), My suggestion is take a look at the writings of VT and LT. Their postings are petty little exercises in FREEEEEEEEdom. Petty little exercises in CENSOOOOOOOship (and the oh-so-boring potshots at Peter K.)and that's it folks. I think we give these people who sneak on and don't use their real names to much time and energey and way to many responding posts. Ocassionally they are faintly amusing but so is a baby who soils a diaper I suggest we just ignore them. These guys whon't go away but hope springs eternal. And my real name is Patrick.
posted 08-10-2000 10:16 PM PT (US)

litmus tester unregistered	Not surprisingly, the only one stupid enough to reply to my hyperbole would be a Junior G-Man. The usual suspects would seem to have more between their ears than Jello afterall...or it may only be the effect of recent sunspot activity. Who can really say... Life is such a mystery, you know. Sometimes you just don't know which end is up.
posted 08-11-2000 03:28 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Mr. Litmus, Mr. Junior G-man yourself, you would know. But then again, you don't know which way is up. Sigh. Let me help you out here by suggesting you've overstayed your welcome! Later! PeterK [This message has been edited by PeterK (edited 11 August 2000).]
posted 08-11-2000 07:45 AM PT (US)

Kevin Oscar® Winner	Patrick, Just a clarification - who reminfds you of Giles? If it's Peter, then okay. If it's the other guys (and I use the term loosely), them's fightin' words! Actually I, along with others, have been on the receiving end of some malicious attacks by this "vt" person (here and via email), so it's just not directed at Peter. Kevin [This message has been edited by Kevin (edited 11 August 2000).]
posted 08-11-2000 07:50 AM PT (US)

Patrick Oscar® Winner	Kevin, Sorry for the confusion. I meant Peter K. when I mentioned Giles. Not the other. Interesting. I think I just got called a Jr G Man. Oh the pain. Ouch Ouch. Anyway sorry for the confusion. Put away your .45 my friend.
posted 08-11-2000 12:56 PM PT (US)

Jens Dietrich Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford: My picture's up on the profiles site. MY picture. Not a 13th century druid prince, or a picture lifted from a magazine. That's me. Well, actually the only reason why I don't put my real picture up on the profiles site is just because I'm not able to. That's right dudes, I don't have a scanner or a digital camera, which means there is no way for me to digitalize me. (hey that sounds kinda corny, like a quote from "Galaxy Quest"!) Jens [This message has been edited by Jens Dietrich (edited 11 August 2000).]
posted 08-11-2000 07:35 PM PT (US)

Todd Reifinger Oscar® Winner	Hey, how come limus tester is listed as "unregistered," but is still able to post?
posted 08-12-2000 08:42 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Todd, you will not find any posts by Mr. Litmus after 7:45am yesterday. The dude is no longer able to post, although his posts made prior to his departure will remain. PeterK
posted 08-12-2000 09:33 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Jens, I know, I know. Just using my old friend as an example! Get on the CDs, man! Shaun
posted 08-12-2000 06:39 PM PT (US)

AaronR1074 Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by André Lux: But them the multi-identities punks ("RobboKennyRogers", "litmustester", "vulcantouch", etc, etc) appear to say what they don't have courage to say using their real names or at least a unique nickname... How bold... Aundre Lux...for once I agree with you
posted 08-13-2000 06:58 AM PT (US)

Jens Dietrich Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by André Lux: But them the multi-identities punks ("RobboKennyRogers", "litmustester", "vulcantouch", etc, etc) appear to say what they don't have courage to say using their real names... Funny André. You've done the same thing for years...
posted 08-13-2000 12:57 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Oh brother..... At least I can't complain that this is getting off topic! Have fun! PeterK NP - "Ninth Gate" by Kilar
posted 08-13-2000 01:10 PM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jens Dietrich: Funny André. You've done the same thing for years... No Jens. I used one nickname. And I used it all the time.
posted 08-14-2000 12:18 PM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by AaronR1074: Aundre Lux...for once I agree with you I am flattered, Arron1704!
posted 08-14-2000 12:24 PM PT (US)

Mark Oscar® Winner	All these stupid off topic posts where Andre is feuding with people, especially the "new" ones is really suspicious. This Emo person is a female? We already saw this crap before. "Her" name was Dex. I am tired of the bullshit insecurities people have with each other. Emo has teamed up against Andre too fast for being "new" here. Ready to place bets? Emo is Big Bear, that's my bet. This is Dex/dantoris all over again, and we know how that one ended. Come on FishChip check my allegation in your log files.
posted 08-22-2001 04:37 PM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I don't know if I'm ignorant...naive...or what? But it never dawned on me that someone would be pathetic enough to post with multiple identities on a message board. It's actually really fricken hilarious...unless of course they do have a mental illness. If that is the case I apologize. For the record...my name is Zak Kaplan.
posted 08-22-2001 05:02 PM PT (US)

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