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JohnT

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Williams and AI (and Minority Report if it ever goes ahead). Elfman and Spiderman. Shore and Lord of the Rings. These and other 'big' projects with suggested composers, but where is Jerry's name? Or am I missing something? Last Orders - ok, but is he not now amongst the first rank of those considered?
posted 08-07-2000 11:27 AM PT (US) 
A.G

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Well, I'm sure a new Star Trek films will happen soon, and J.G will surely score it.posted 08-07-2000 12:17 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I heard Goldsmith will do the thriller ALONG CAME A SPIDER, the prequel to KISS THE GIRLS, starring Morgan Freeman, for director Lee (THE EDGE) Tamahori. The Internet Movie Database lists Mark Isham as the composer, but perhaps there's been a change. Or perhaps they just assumed Isham would do it -- the Database is fallible: it still has Goldsmith listed for THE SHIPPING NEWS, but that's probably a holdover from when Fred Schepisi was directing it: the new director Lasse Hallstrom may pick someone else. Goldsmith is also slated to do (has already done? not sure) a short film of some kind for Paul Verhoeven.NP: THE STRIPPER (by ponytail boy, although this score dates from his crewcut days)
posted 08-07-2000 12:53 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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Yes, Jerry has already signed for the next Star Trek film, which has been promised to be a HUGE, explosive space battle epic w/ notorious villians and everything done right. I expect BIG music for this one... It's slated for 2001.Limited information is available at the official Star Trek Production site: http://www.startrek.com/production/startrekx/default.asp
Jeron
posted 08-07-2000 12:54 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Let's hope he'll be a bit more innovative this time. In the movie, his Trek9 score worked very well, but on CD it's not very special (except for that one track, "Children's Story", which really fascinates me). Then again, quite a bit of the more "varied" stuff is NOT on the CD. It's by no means a bad score. But Goldsmith can do far better than this.
posted 08-07-2000 04:48 PM PT (US) 
Bulldog
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Actually, to be honest, Marian, I thought that INSURRECTION dangerously bordered on TOO MUCH variation and very little musical relationships. I really am nostalgic for the soundscape Goldsmith developed in the first film (even if I liked the **music** itself more in V and even in the others a bit--just the way it was performed and recorded). The themes were plentiful, but harnessed in by the core of the score, Goldsmith's glorious anthem--the pinnacle of film scoring.I hope after great cohesive scores following the last STAR TREK film--THE MUMMY (!), WARRIOR, and HM--that Goldsmith will be comfortable scoring a film the way he belives a film should be scored again. I'm really tired of the Williams influence on the Hollywood score community, damn him. He writes great music, but his form for the media is poor and hackneyed. [Max Steiner: (1889-1971; reincarnated in 1977) Wake up, Max, wherever you are?!]
posted 08-07-2000 07:45 PM PT (US) 
Hard Target
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I'm definetly with Rocco on Along Came The Spider because even Mark Isham has said that he is not scoring it and hasn't been contacted about it. I know for sure he's still working on Gary Fleder's thriller Imposter which has been pushed back yet one more time. And he's also scoring Robert DeNiro's new film Men of Honor, so I know he's not scoring Along.... As for the future, well I really don't see any projects the blow his skirt up sort to speak with the exception of The 6th Day and yes, Along Came The Spider. Star Trek 10 is 99.999999% seeable. The Shipping News would be a surprise if Lasse Holstrom does indeed stick with him, in which my opinion he should. Possibly Last Orders, might be something he'd love to do. How bout Total Recall 2 which has Star Trek's Jonathan Frakes slated to direct. Or perhaps another John Frankenheimer project that he'll leave once again LOL.P.O.
The Hollow Man (Maestro Goldsmith) ****/*****posted 08-07-2000 08:50 PM PT (US) 
Lorien
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One thing he won't be doing is THE THIEF OF ALWAYS. He and Clive Barker worked out a couple of songs for it, but the studio eventually dropped the project. They wanted something aimed more at children.Be on the lookout for something he may be working on with Ray Bradbury, a science fiction adaptation of Moby Dick, set in space with an asteroid replacing the whale, and blindness replacing the missing leg infirming the obsessed captain. Bradbury referred to it as a project they were definitely working on, but Goldsmith said, "Oh, yes. Ray keeps calling me about that. I'll have to call him soon." - so I don't know how far along this is, if it is at all.
posted 08-08-2000 07:46 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I wondered what had happened to THE THIEF OF ALWAYS ... thanks. I've heard of the Bradbury story before, though this is the first I've heard of Goldsmith working on it. It wouldn't surprise me, since Bradbury wrote the words for Goldsmith's cantata "Christus Apollo." Such a project as MOBY DICK 3000 (one title I've heard for it) would be unfathomably cool. They'd better get to it quick! Neither is the proverbial spring chicken ... (get on that phone, Jerry!) Goldsmith seems to be doing so many more non-film-related works these days, worrying about his relative lack of presence at the boxoffice seems beside the point. I'd be worried more if he weren't still doing the concerts, the rerecordings, and every other little thing he finds time to do.Other than ALONG CAME A SPIDER, if Goldsmith scores something for the upcoming fall/Xmas season, I'd bet it would be something completely out of left field, as was his sudden replacement score for AIR FORCE ONE (the paperback novelization was issued before Randy Newman's credit could be revoked.) I sure HOPE for a surprise, since I hold no great expectations for SPIDER. (SPIDER, Marian, didja hear me, I said SPIDER! SPIDER! SPIDER!) Although Lee Tamahori is a fine director, and might make more out of it than I expect.
Mr. Target observes that Mark Isham might be tied up scoring director Gary Fleder's IMPOSTOR, but must assume that we'll all remember Fleder directed the original KISS THE GIRLS (hence the continued collaboration with Isham.)
I don't know which would surprise me more: Goldsmith saying yes to TOTAL RECALL 2, or saying no. If he does ALONG CAME A SPIDER, that will be his SECOND recent sequel to a film he didn't do (following U.S. MARSHALS, and in both cases, it'll be because he's pals with the director.) The presence of Frakes, obviously another pal, as director of TOTAL RECALL 2, certainly helps increase the odds -- he'd probably want Goldsmith aboard even if he HADN'T scored the original.
All of which assumes TOTAL RECALL 2 will even be produced, of which I am not confident, despite the years-long rumblings about it.
NP: X-MEN (I'm pretty sure there will be a sequel to this one, but if so, they'd better give Storm more to do, although I'm looking forward the most to seeing Wolverine's backstory fleshed out some more, as was relentlessly foreshadowed in the current picture)
[This message has been edited by H Rocco (edited 08 August 2000).]
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