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Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Ok, after seeing the teaser for "The Leggend of Begger Vance" (looks really good by the way) and learning that Rachel Portman was scoring a Robert Redford film I was delighted. But I dont have any of her CDs, I heard this was good so I'll ask "The Group" how is it? --Kyp
posted 08-07-2000 12:42 AM PT (US)

Will Oscar® Winner	Crono, if you like Rudy, then you will love The Cider House Rules.
posted 08-07-2000 01:29 AM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	Lovely main theme, but the impression I got was that most of it sounds the same. Still, this doesn't mean that the album isn't worth it. It's beautiful music from start to finish. NP - Lost World
posted 08-07-2000 03:45 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	A wonderful score, one of the most beautiful in my collection. Definitely worth it. Similar to Rudy, eh? My interest in this score keeps growing. I already promised Jeron to get it, but haven't found it yet (so much else stuff to get). I will, I promise! NP: The Cowboys (Williams)
posted 08-07-2000 10:55 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	It's pretty, but I thought, watching the film, "I don't need this, I've already got EMMA." I have two other Portman albums, WHERE ANGELS FEAR TO TREAD and BENNY & JOON, and between these three, they seem to cover the complete spectrum of everything she's ever said musically. In particular, I've noticed that her albums tend to peak in the middle, and that everything after that is just repetition of the same one or two ideas. I really wonder what she might have done with MULAN if she'd kept that assignment, it would have demanded a LOT more of her than anything else she's been hired for. I can't tell whether she's just been typecast, or really doesn't have much range -- an awful lot of film composers don't. Still, it tends to be pretty stuff, she's an especially adroit orchestrator, I think.
posted 08-07-2000 12:11 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	Beloved anyone? not your typical Portman at all.
posted 08-07-2000 03:03 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by JJH: [b]Beloved anyone? not your typical Portman at all. [/B] Right you are JJH. Very unusual indeed. Rocco, a question. Why does every composer have to make a new or different musical statement? Crono, Cider house rules is a wonderful score. I wouldn't compare it to Rudy, for Rudy is orchestrational very much larger and leans more towards the Romantic era. Cider house rules is more like...Term of Endearment (that's the only one I can think of right now). ONLY MY OPINION, OF COURSE. Scott
posted 08-09-2000 08:08 AM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	WARNING: I AM NOT MR. ROCCO, JUST A LAME SUBSTITUTE: A composer doesn't have to make a new statement, but if all the work is the same why do you need to buy it? Further, if an artist doesn't try new things then they will never know if they can be more than they are. "If a man's grasp does not exceed his reach, what's a heaven for?"
posted 08-09-2000 01:02 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Mr. Substitue, "Yet if the situation does not warrant the exploring of new worlds, why do so?" Scott
posted 08-09-2000 07:38 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	If the artists isn't going to do anything new, then why not use the temp track? One Mona Lisa is a great work or art. A dozen is mere copyist work. You know, some composers do just that, churn out the same kind of thing over and over. But, the composers we love the most don't. Jerry Goldsmith, John Williams, Danny Elfman, Carter Burwell and Thomas Newman all at least try to be different and take their work in a new direction. It is this very lack of daring that gets James Horner and MV into such trouble with some listeners. It all sounds the same to some people. I am not saying that I feel this way, just trying illuminate my point.
posted 08-09-2000 08:31 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	No composer HAS to do something that we can all agree is "new and original" every time. It is not really our place to judge it in the first place. Additionally, many of my favorite composers have scored many films in which they did no such thing. Many of us disagree even as to what "new and original" music might comprise. I already told you what I think of Rachel Portman's work, so I need not repeat it. (I thoroughly encourage each and every one of you to seek out her beautiful EMMA, which actually won the Oscar! Sometimes the voters do have taste.) Mr. Ruger, I might be wiser to stop responding to ANY of your posts, for fear that people will assume that you and I are one and the same (and I'd never wish that upon you. But I must rebel against the idea you are "a lame substitute!" You are not! You are MWRuger! And a better MWRuger than I could ever be! So enjoy being MWRuger, dammit!) NP: like I'd ever tell you
posted 08-10-2000 12:09 AM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Yet, how many time did Picasso tread new waters? How many times did Shakespeare change the music of his sentences? Scott
posted 08-10-2000 08:08 AM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	I am not a Rocco, I'm a Free Man! (Whew! That's one identity crisis solved!)
posted 08-10-2000 08:32 AM PT (US)

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