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    Topic:   Guess what I saw tonight...?

     Scott
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    Coyote Ugly.

    Don't ask.


    Scott

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    posted 08-04-2000 10:28 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    (sigh) you're begging the question now.

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    posted 08-04-2000 10:30 PM PT (US)     

     Lorien
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    Yes, you have now a golden opportunity to turn a bad thing into a philanthropic act.

    Eliminate our Roadside Crash Stare curiosity, and tell us about it so we won't have to bother.

    Please.

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    posted 08-04-2000 11:25 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I've seen the trailer, twice. It's a country-music hybrid of FLASHDANCE and SHOWGIRLS, isn't it?

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    posted 08-05-2000 12:24 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Dude!

    (sorry, Keanu moment there )

    I know it's suppoed to be a girl version of Cocktail but who knows. But there's babes!!!!

    Kevin

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    posted 08-05-2000 02:47 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Uh, Scott...
    If you didn't want us to ask...you shouldn't have said anything at all.

    So...pour forth, fella.
    Inquiring minds want to know.

    Time to drop the other shoe.

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    posted 08-05-2000 03:39 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    Lol,

    it's a long story so put up your feet, put on the Daniel2 cap and relax.

    I went to the movies (of course, that much you guys already figured out right? well, anyway), with my two nephs. The rest didn't want to go because they all have brain damage and don't know when to accept an invatation or because their sister didn't come or ...whatever...on with the stroy. So, we were supposed to see Hollow Man a movie I have been eagerly waiting for. Of course my teenage nephew had to invide his friends which I don't mind except he didn't inform them what movie we were planning to see.

    So naturally these hormone excessive creatures wanted to see Coyote Ugly. I agreed under the condition that we would watch Hollow Man afterwards. We got the tickets and I asked the girl for the 7:30 showing. (I know it's geeting long the story isn't it? Sowie). Unbeknownst to me she gave me the 7:00 ticket instead. While my little nephew went to eat the other kids went already inside.

    At 7:05 Manan (my little neph) and I get to the theater and discover that the movie already started. Naturally the theater was dark and although I tried look for my other neph and his friends I couldn't locate them. So, manan and I just got some sits and watched the movie. Not a bad movie mind you but pretty much what Rocco said. Except there was no nudity. Funny, you would excpect a movie like that to have more nudity and sex than Hollow Man. But then again Hollow Man had a director who is desperatly trying to integrate full pornography into main stream film making. or perhaps he is just his swedish ole' self.And just maybe I am rabbling on, aren't I? You guys have to tell me these things. Ok, ok, I shall continue...where did I leave off...oh yeah, ok...

    so after the movie we discover that my braindead neph and his clones where not in the theater at all. They must have sneaked into another movie. So here we are , inside a theater complex with 26 screens trying to find these morons. Luckily my neph had the cell phone, not that he ever needs it mind you just soemthing to show off with and my aunt let him.

    So we leave the theater, Manan and I , call home to tell my aunt to call him, Chintan (my brainless neph), to come outside and meet us. Which of course was way too late to purchase the other tickets for Hollow Man because by this time it was sold out. Jeron, hush, I didn't want to get the tickets before. So, zip it.

    Anyway, I haven't talked to my older neph since for I am just very mad at his behaviour and it is not a good idea to talk to him in this state of mind. I need to calm down first.

    Thats' the story folks. I really didn't want you to ask for I didn't need this finger workout.I just wanted to see if someone els on this board saw the movie.

    Now you can get back up, take off the Daniel2 cap and sent it back to England, and get back to work.

    Bye, bye

    Scott

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    posted 08-05-2000 04:34 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    Verhoeven is DUTCH! Although most of those European types are interchangeable anyway (here come Marian and Thor and Nicolai after me -- well try and find me! Whyncha swim the ocean, BUDS!)

    Actually, HOLLOW MAN is the most conservative movie Verhoeven's ever made, of those I've seen, anyway (most of em). I'm not ready to write much about it yet, but I was amazed at how ordinary most of it is.

    NP: HOLLOW MAN (it's Goldsmith, awright? I HAVE to have it! Running time is 51:29)

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    posted 08-05-2000 07:46 PM PT (US)     

     Chris Kinsinger
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    Uh...Scott. I believe you missed the point. We weren't asking for "A Day In The Life Of Scott", we wanted your review of Coyote Ugly.


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    posted 08-05-2000 07:54 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Chris Kinsinger:
    Uh...Scott. I believe you missed the point. We weren't asking for "A Day In The Life Of Scott", we wanted your review of [b]Coyote Ugly.

    [/B]


    Oh.

    Ehm...what Rocco said.

    Scott

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    posted 08-05-2000 08:38 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    quote:
    Originally posted by H Rocco:
    Verhoeven is DUTCH! Although most of those European types are interchangeable anyway (here come Marian and Thor and Nicolai after me -- well try and find me! Whyncha swim the ocean, BUDS!)

    Actually, HOLLOW MAN is the most conservative movie Verhoeven's ever made, of those I've seen, anyway (most of em). I'm not ready to write much about it yet, but I was amazed at how ordinary most of it is.

    NP: HOLLOW MAN (it's Goldsmith, awright? I HAVE to have it! Running time is 51:29)



    Well, being someone who spend 13 years in Germany and happens to be half German (on my mother's side) I would take offense to that statement. Europeans are not readily interchangeable. That's almost like saying people of this continent are interchangeable. Now you know what that means right? I live in California. I don't have to swim the mighty ocean to find you. In fact, I just may be already outside your door.

    As far as Verhoeven and most conservative film is concerned. I would give that title to Total Recall.

    Bye, bye

    Scott

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    posted 08-05-2000 08:42 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Come on guys... I'm sure Scott needed that kind of release. Hope you are doing well, Scott. I'm sorry to hear things aren't going well right now... hang in there. It's all in da plan, ya know? Things will get better!

    Jeron

    NP- Air Force One (G-Dog-smith) *****/*****

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    posted 08-05-2000 08:56 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    So, now he's G-dog ?

    funny, when I worked in a local eatery, we called our quesadillas "Q-dogs"

    Is Goldsmith the musical equivalent of a tasty quesadilla?

    'sup yo?

    NP -- Star Wars, conducted by Gerhardt

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    posted 08-05-2000 09:06 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    aw Scott, you MUSTA known I was kidding ...

    NP: HOLOCAUST 2000 (by one of those Europeans, Morricone perhaps? I think he also did something with Clint Eastwood in it.)

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    posted 08-05-2000 09:44 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    Ah, Rocco,

    you must have known I was kidding as well.

    scott

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    posted 08-05-2000 10:42 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    now that we got that out of the way... in what sense do you consider TOTAL RECALL the most "conservative" of Verhoeven's films? I think it's way wilder than HOLLOW MAN, although not always in a good way. I remain surprised at how ordinary and by-the-numbers HOLLOW MAN felt, especially towards the protracted finale.

    NP: rented video of DUMB & DUMBER (I've never seen it, believe it or not, but I'm catching up on my Farrelly Bros -- last night it was KINGPIN)

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    posted 08-05-2000 11:14 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Ah, Rocco, I'm sure there are a number of European spiders that cannot be found in the USA which you'd be glad to get to know. Swim? Why? There's always mail service.

    But in fact, most directors are exchangeable anyway.

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    posted 08-06-2000 06:07 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    No doubt ... I think Americans get a very backward and mistaken view of what films from other countries are like and about. Over here, "European" or "Asian" or "South American" or whatever, usually means "art-house," even when (e.g. Luc Besson's films) they're not art movies at all, but meant to be popular entertainment. Most of Kurosawa's output was intended for the mass audience (although certain of his pictures, e.g. THE IDIOT, are completely intransigent). Additionally, the market is so small for this kind of film (I'll be curious to see how GODZILLA 2000 performs, they're really plugging the hell out of it, I think it might actually have a surprisingly big opening weekend, but word of mouth will not be that good), Americans tend only to be exposed to the BEST (or at least, best-PROMOTED by its producers) of foreign films: your average potboiler probably won't make it over here, and that is the bulk of what's ever produced anywhere. Flip through old Cannes or AFM issues of Variety, look at the poster art, and realize how little of that one ever actually heard of again, even some shot in English. You remember WHALE MUSIC or SONS? I thought not.

    The fact is, that we are exposed to so few of the products from any given nation, be it film or television, that I think we get the impression not much is being made. More is made than we ever get to see, as I'm well aware of from studying the marquees and video stores in the various nations I've visited. Hence, most directors anywhere no doubt ARE interchangeable.

    I deeply regret passing up my chance to see, when I lived in West Africa, the world premiere of BABONI: THE PHOBIA GIRL, starring the country's biggest star Jagger Pee, who lent his name to a popular soft drink called Pee Cola (I am NOT making this up. And you couldn't get away from that guy's mug on billboards anywhere you went.) Based on the one TV commercial I saw, it actually seemed to be shot on VHS tape! Sort of a Ghanaian version of THE FURY, from the look of it.

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    posted 08-06-2000 12:34 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    quote:
    Originally posted by H Rocco:
    now that we got that out of the way... in what sense do you consider TOTAL RECALL the most "conservative" of Verhoeven's films? I think it's way wilder than HOLLOW MAN, although not always in a good way. I remain surprised at how ordinary and by-the-numbers HOLLOW MAN felt, especially towards the protracted finale.

    NP: rented video of DUMB & DUMBER (I've never seen it, believe it or not, but I'm catching up on my Farrelly Bros -- last night it was KINGPIN)


    Sorry, I thought you were referring to the sexual, nudist parts of his movies. In that sense, Total Recall is very much tame. If memory serves correctly all you see is one bed scene and Schwarzeneggers butt.

    As far as action is concerned, I agree with ya.


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    posted 08-06-2000 01:25 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    And then there's the three-breasted bar girl -- Verhoeven also shot a moment of her gutting one of the bad guys during the bar fight, but it got cut for violence. (One veteran of the TOTAL RECALL set observed that Verhoeven kept inventing so much extra violent stuff, some people began dreading what he might come up with next: "Oh no, here comes Paul with the blood!" Incidentally, the peculiarly interesting scene in which it turns out Ah-nuld was hiding inside a fat lady body suit was the invention of makeup guy Rob Bottin; if I remember right, the script simply had a straight transition from Earth to Mars.)

    I wonder what on earth the David Cronenberg version of TOTAL RECALL would have been like (he was just one of many whose hands it passed through over the years.) And I wish they'd kept Dan O'Bannon's more ambiguous ending, the EXACT details of which escape me, but which was a lot more interesting and challenging than the rather standard wrap-up we got.

    Verhoeven has certainly learned one thing when he pushes the envelopes: put in TOO MUCH of everything, and he's bound to be able to keep SOME of his excesses. There's little overt violence in HOLLOW MAN until the finale, and the sex/nudity aspects are quite underplayed, by his standards. I still wonder, though, why he wanted to make this movie, if he wasn't going to subvert the genre a little bit more. Sebastian might as well be Freddy Krueger by the end.

    NP: HOLLOW MAN, in fact

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