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MattStar
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This has probably been done before, but with Hollow Man coming out, it has got me thinking things Goldsmith and since I don't collect his music (I only have a few of his scores, I'm a Williams and Horner man), the question is, Which is Goldsmith's best score?
I'm talking all-around best encompassing every aspect, in the film, away from the film, construction, all of it.
I guess for me it comes down to Patton, Star Trek: The Motion Picture or Planet of the Apes.
I know it's tough to pick one, so if you can't pick just one, try and narrow it down to his top three.NP - Boswell's Midsummer Night's Dream (I love the music for Shakespeare films)
posted 07-26-2000 01:12 AM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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I just wrote this very thing elsewhere nearby. But here we go again: I always say: PAPILLON; STAR TREK - THE MOTION PICTURE; and FIRST BLOOD.So many others that are just as good, though.
NP: MAGIC (as heard on the original SPFM tribute from 1993 -- Mr. G signed this for me in Detroit! I'm still thrilled to so many bits that I haven't finished picking up all the parts of me yet!)
posted 07-26-2000 01:20 AM PT (US) 
Timmer

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I guess my absolute favorite is Star Trek TMP, closely followed by LEGEND and THE FINAL CONFLICT.But ohhh SOOOOOOO many to choose from

NP : nought
posted 07-26-2000 04:04 AM PT (US) 
Al

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I never say an actual favorite of Goldsmith's, I usually say: (as from the movie Office Space when Michael Bolton 'not the singer' is asked which Bolton song is his favorite)"I don't know. I guess I like em all."
But as far as a score I really, really like? I'm thinking "Twilight Zone: The Movie."posted 07-26-2000 07:23 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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MattStar,how could you?
Oh gosh...a favorite?
Three?
Things like this should be outlawed...where are the Democrats when you need them?
Rudy,
The Omen,
PoltergeistScott
MattStar you know I hate you now...

posted 07-26-2000 08:07 AM PT (US) 
jonathan_little
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Night Crossing or The Wind and the Lion... I can't decide!
NP: Wild Rovers... the Chapter III discs are finally in my hands!
posted 07-26-2000 08:29 AM PT (US) 
Pete M

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You want me to choose just one? That's so unfair. Okay, then I'll go with The Omen, but I'll have changed my mind by the time I hit the return key.
np nothingposted 07-26-2000 08:43 AM PT (US) 
André Lux

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Goldsmith's best? Easy:STAR TREK - TMP
LEGEND
ALIEN
PLANET OF THE APES
ISLAND IN THE STREAMS
UNDER FIRE
LIONHEART
POWDER
LA CONFIDENTIAL
THE OMEM
THE FINAL CONFLICT
OUTLAND
POLTERGEIST
GREMLINS
TOTAL RECALL
RAMBO II
THE BLUE MAX
FREUDThe rest come in second.
posted 07-26-2000 10:07 AM PT (US) 
Widescreen
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Star Trek: The Motion Picture, hands down, the finest score Goldsmith has ever written. Alien comes in at second for it's strengths.
posted 07-26-2000 11:36 AM PT (US) 
MattStar
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Ok, I know this is difficult, but so far it seems that Star Trek: TPM is winning. But hey, what about The Omen? It remains Goldsmith's only Academy Award winner. Does that mean it is the best or that it was just his year when he won.
No one's mentioned Planet of the Apes much either. Come on, that ram's horn and dissonance, how could you go wrong?Keep em comin' LOL!!!!
NP - what else, Planet of the Apes
posted 07-26-2000 02:26 PM PT (US) 
mlw
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I don't know anything about this but if I were one of those Purist college boy types I'd probably type these for pushing the composer past the brink and opening hitherto locked territory:Lonely Are the Brave
Under Fire
Planet of the Apes
Star Trek 1Total Recall
The Illustrated Man
Music For Orchestra
Patton
The Wind and the Lion
The Final Conflict
Basic Instinct
A Patch of Blue
The Artist Who did Not Want to Paint
The Boys From Brazil
......Hollow Man has all the chops but I haven't fully absorbed it enough to know for sure, haven't been exposed to the film etc to make a cheap review
[This message has been edited by mlw (edited 26 July 2000).]
posted 07-26-2000 02:58 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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awright, other people are throwing in more titles, so I'll just toss ten more atcha (picked almost at random from his long list of scores that fall into the "phenomenal" category more than they do the "superb," "excellent" or "damned amazing" arenas -- what can I say, perhaps I'm not fully objective -- ) :MASADA
100 RIFLES
UNDER FIRE
THE SWARM
CAPRICORN ONE
EXTREME PREJUDICE
ISLANDS IN THE STREAM
POLTERGEIST and POLTERGEIST II
THE REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD(Looking over this list again, I'm struck by the man's incredible versatility. Look at the range of genres and subjects just in those ten. And except for THE SWARM, none of them are terrible movies, either. Maybe not 100 RIFLES, which I haven't seen, but most are decent to pretty good.)
Can hardly wait to hear HOLLOW MAN ... perhaps I'll grab it Friday.
[This message has been edited by H Rocco (edited 26 July 2000).]
posted 07-26-2000 03:07 PM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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My two favorite Goldsmith scores, and have been for many years now, are:1. Poltergeist
2. Under Fireand close behind 65 more. Best, John.
posted 07-26-2000 04:00 PM PT (US) 
shrubber

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My 2 cents (in random order as per usual):BLUE MAX (hardly mentioned. Why?)
ALIEN
RAMBO II
LEGEND
POLTERGEIST
CAPRICORN ONE (my neighbours must hate that main theme by now)
THE SWARM
PATTONposted 07-31-2000 03:47 PM PT (US) 
joan hue

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I cut my teeth on Goldsmith’s westerns. I’m surprised more haven’t been
mentioned. It was probably most of his western scores that lead me to
film music. He began with the lovely and rousing Lonely Are the Brave.
Also love his Bandolero, Take a Hard Ride, Rio Conchos, 100 Rifles,
Breakheart Pass, Wild Rovers, Hour of the Gun, Stagecoach, and many
others. I still hope he’ll score another western in the next few years.NP Bad Girls
posted 07-31-2000 09:54 PM PT (US) 
Darth Fart

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Too difficult, but I think it's Under Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Trek 1
and Ramboposted 08-01-2000 01:00 AM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

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Joan, I really like all those western scores too. Just too many good ones to put at top. The two I listed are my favorites, but 65 more are right behind and close. Best, John.
posted 08-01-2000 07:04 PM PT (US) 
JohnT

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Chinatown, Patton and Islands in the Stream would be my top three, and I would add Bandalero as my favourite western score of his - and because it was the first Goldsmith soundtrack I bought!
posted 08-01-2000 11:49 PM PT (US) 
Todd Reifinger
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I don't think Goldsmith's ever composed a score that I would classify as "good." The only possible exception to that statement would be his unreleased score for "Flashdance," which even Goldsmith himself described as "pretty f*ckin' good."
posted 08-02-2000 08:14 AM PT (US) 
Taco
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Lionheart Vol. I & II make the hair on my back penetrate my t-shirt. (****e, I better go shave.)NP: The Secret of Nimh (Also dang good)
posted 08-02-2000 10:58 AM PT (US) 
Bulldog
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LEGEND
posted 08-02-2000 01:54 PM PT (US) 
Lee

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Gremlins
King Solomons Mines
Rudy
The Mummy
The 13th Warrior
The HauntingThese choices are based on the CDs I own. There might be some better ones out there but I can't judge a score without hearing it.
Based on my choices, could you also tell that '99 was a good year from Mr. Goldsmith?
posted 08-02-2000 03:32 PM PT (US) 
John Dunham

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ST:TMP
The Ghost And The Darkness
First Knight
Under Fire
Night Crossing
13th WarriorMan... no matter how many I pick, there are always more I want to add.
I'd better stop here.posted 08-02-2000 03:57 PM PT (US) 
Jens Dietrich

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Patton
The Mummy
Total Recall
The Wind and the Lion
First Knight
Air Force One
Rambo: First Blood Part II
Basic Instince
Rudy
posted 08-02-2000 06:51 PM PT (US) 
Hornerfan

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STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE, easily. No contest here.Mike
posted 08-03-2000 08:08 AM PT (US) 
reed miles
Oscar® Nominee

the best goldsmith score is "planet of the apes".the best goldsmith track is "raisuli attacks" from "the wind and the lion".
i just LOVE contemporary techniques (sp.?).
posted 08-03-2000 10:01 AM PT (US) 
mujerado

Oscar® Nominee

Hi, everybody! This is my first post on this website, which I just found today!Good topic; Goldsmith #1!
LEGEND
Chinatown
The Wind and the LionNP, The Song of Bernadette
*Does anyone know if there is a video or dvd in Europe/elsewhere of Legend that uses the original score instead of the replacement?
posted 08-04-2000 10:46 PM PT (US) 
H Rocco
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Isn't there an upcoming LEGEND "Director's Cut" DVD that uses both the Goldsmith and the Tangerine Dream scores on alternate ISO tracks? I seem to remember reading something about that here a couple of months back. Or was that one of my weirder dreams that coincidentally didn't involve hedgehogs, C&C Cola (CANNED, not bottled) and a pair of green-painted anvils festooned with glued-on cotton balls?There are VHS copies and laserdisc copies of the Goldsmith-scored version in both Europe and Japan; these versions aren't really Scott's preferred cuts, and include little bits of Goldsmith's PSYCHO II, as well.
I'd be curious to see Scott's "final" version of the piece, especially with Goldsmith's score COMPLETELY intact, and minus the embarrassing lifts from PSYCHO II (the fault of editor Terry Rawlings, not Goldsmith, obviously.)
NP: THE PATRIOT (there were far too many lifts from PSYCHO II in this one as well! I swear, doesn't anyone try to temp with anything else?)
posted 08-04-2000 11:57 PM PT (US) 
Marvin

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I only know "The Mummy" and "Congo" but they are great! "The Mummy" was vote by the German Soundtrack-Fans to the best Soundtrack of 1999.
posted 08-11-2000 05:12 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
