There is this annoying sound that is used musch too often in the soundtrack, nearly every track contains it. Those of you that have heard the soundtrack will know what I'm talking about when I say that it sounds like a dying Eagle.

"Zorro leaps up heroically, catching a glipse of the sun in the background. There's that blasted Dying Eagle."

"Zorro sees the evil mines of the bad guys, while the Dying Eagle cries from some unknown location."

That stupid dying eagle really bothered me, and detracted from the soundtrack.

Any soundtracks with little motif's that really bothered you?

~Shivered

Scott

I'm personally not too fond of Jabba's theme from ROTJ, although I appreciate that it's good and serves its purpose well.

However, there are more annoying sounds:

1. That awful droning synth sound used by Elia Cmiral in EVERY SINGLE SCORE FROM 'RONIN' TO 'BATTLEFIELD GIRTH'!

2. A terrible synthesized (or pre-recorded) solo voice saying "Ahmun dey". This was used in 'End of Days' EVERY SINGLE TIME GABRIEL BYRNE APPEARS ON SCREEN. It's also often used by Media Ventures, for example in 'Armageddon'.

3. The annoying electric guitar riff whenever something "cool" appears on screen. It can be heard in most Media Ventures scores ('Armageddon', 'Drop Zone', 'K2', 'Enemy of the Ear'...)

A slightly-altered version of the same effect is used for the motif of the Ghost of Christmas Future in the fantastic George C. Scott version of A Christmas Carol (the best filmed adaptation of that story, by the way).

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Originally posted by Jens Dietrich:

2. A terrible synthesized (or pre-recorded) solo voice saying "Ahmun dey". This was used in 'End of Days' EVERY SINGLE TIME GABRIEL BYRNE APPEARS ON SCREEN. It's also often used by Media Ventures, for example in 'Armageddon'.

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The other stuff you posted here requires no comment. However, that example I quoted there just ****es me off. It clearly shows your complete and total ignorance when it comes to movie music that is not what you like. What the voice is saying is Agnus Dei, or Lamb of God for those not versed in Latin (like you, Jens). This is why people got mad at you over at Filmtracks, and it's annoying as hell. Think before you post, dammit.

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Originally posted by Jens Dietrich:
Ok Hornerfan, it says "Agnus Dei". So what? Does that make it any less annoying?

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No, it's not annoying, in the least. Quite ironic, actually, especially in the case of END OF DAYS. You really are narrow minded...

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Originally posted by André Lux:

I must remember you guys that the Sakauachi can be very enjoyable. Just check Bruce Smeaton's "Iceman"...

But unfortunately James Horner overused it and now it became really anoying.

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Originally posted by Jens Dietrich:

3. The annoying electric guitar riff whenever something "cool" appears on screen. It can be heard in most Media Ventures scores ('Armageddon', 'Drop Zone', 'K2', 'Enemy of the Ear'...)

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I said I wasn't going to comment on the rest, but I had to. The way you put it, it seems like it is the same guitar riff, everytime, in the scores you mentioned. There, for one, you are wrong. Listen to, say, the theme from ARMAGEDDON, then the theme from K2. Are they the same? No. Therefore, it is not an annoying electric guitar riff (singular). As a matter of fact, they aren't annoying, or are all electric guitar uses (except for Poledouris's FOR LOVE OF THE GAME), annoying, including Goldsmith's, as you have said in the past? Moreover, the electric guitar isn't even in MOST of Media Ventures' scores. It's only a handful of them, at most. I can list off more scores that DON'T use the guitar as you have listed there that do. You really do need to realize that someone will pick apart every single thing you say as wrong until you put more effort into your comments about scores, including Goldsmith (who isn't the best, especially now).

Mike

The topic is not sounds or instruments that we dislike, it is "what motif's do you dislike?"

Now the Sakauhachi(a very beautiful instrument), can be overused a little too much in Horner's scores. But, let me move on to motifs.

A motif is often associated with the German composer Richard Wagner, the term applies to a short recognizable theme that is linked to a given character, object or concept within a show, opera or film score. In Wagner's 'Ring' cycle of operas, for instance, the main characters each have a leitmotif as do, in many cases, their horses and even Siegfried's sword. Leitmotifs are a potent tool in focusing the audience's attention by establishing a musical link to the visual action either before, after or during said action.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE!

One motif that I absouletly hate is the main theme, presented by classical guitar, from the Princess Bride. I also usually do not care for Mediaventures "love" motifs. A while back it used to be that they would use a guitar for every single "romantic" theme.

I have some more, but I am off to go practice on the horn.

Later,
Aaron Collins

First off, welcome to Moviemusic.com. You will find this to be the best messageboard regarding film music on the net.

In regards, to Jens and your argument, I understand what you were referring to and that's fine. I just made the statement that everyone on this post is referring to sounds rather than motifs.

Latz,
Aaron