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    Topic:   Contact DVD

     SEBULBA
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    Does anyone on this site know which region code of Contact has the iso score? Is it region 2?

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    posted 07-12-2000 09:07 AM PT (US)     

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    Yes, its the UK release I believe.

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    posted 07-12-2000 10:17 AM PT (US)     

     Jim Ware
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    Be aware that this is a PAL transfer and runs 4% too fast.

    Is there anything on here that isn't on the official disc?

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    posted 07-12-2000 11:27 AM PT (US)     

     Gae
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    The PAL transfer runs 4% faster?? I was wondering why Jodie Foster seemed to be able to run faster than Ben Johnson!!
    Heres a thought....if the transfer runs 4% faster does that mean that the isolated score plays in a different key to the original score? Anyone here have perfect pitch? Gae NP Lifeforce (I just had to play this....all this talk about Mathilda May has got my juices running....creative juices I mean!!...steady now!)

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    posted 07-12-2000 03:11 PM PT (US)     

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    Where I work, we actually do pal conversions and 24 frame (because we do 24 frame playback). Anyway, there are 2 ways to convert a film to pal. A) is a 1 to 1 transfer, which would mean the pal version would be 4% faster. The other B) is a 24 - 25 frame conversion, which is exactly the same speed, just a different amount of frames. Just like film being transfered to our video standard (NTSC) which is 30 frame. It's not any faster. But I don't know which way Contact may have been done.

    The reason I'm asking is because the region 2 has an isolated score. I have some software that enables me to play region 2 discs, and I know where to purchase region 2's, so if it actually has it, I may purchase it.

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    posted 07-12-2000 04:18 PM PT (US)     

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    Sebulba, the region 2 disc has more features than the region 1 disc (usually not the case) and does indeed contain the isolated score. Thats one of the reasons I got it before I'd even seen the movie and I think both the film and score are great. I'd definately buy it if you can play region 2 discs. You probably know dont you that your T.V. or Computer also needs to be able to play in the PAL format? I bought "The Man with the Golden Gun" on region 1 and it can only play because my T.V. and Projector can recognise NTSC signals as well as PAL....otherwise the image scrolls up and down. Just thought I'd mention it just in case! Gae

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    posted 07-12-2000 04:31 PM PT (US)     

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    Ya, that's no problem. Most computer monitors now can deal with pal becuase of the ability to change the hz. The company I work for, we do a lot of computer playback, and occasionaly commercials for European release, which we do in pal with our NTSC monitors.

    Gae, one question, at the site I can purchase the region 2 disc, they ask what country I'm in. What country are you from? I just want to make sure there's not more than one version of region 2.

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    posted 07-13-2000 07:49 AM PT (US)     

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    SEBULBA, Im from the U.K.! Yes, I think that region 2 covers most of Europe so I cant vouch for these discs as regards the ISO score, but the one I bought in this coountry does. Good luck! Gae

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    posted 07-13-2000 02:19 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I heard about those 1:1 speed PAL transfers, but I think DVDs usually are transfered with 4% speedup (i.e. 24 frames in the movie => 48 PAL half-field frames).

    But you could rip the movie on your computer, decode the score track and convert the sampling frequency. I wonder if this affects the sound quality.

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    posted 07-13-2000 03:53 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, I think I'll probably order it. When I get it, I'll compare it to the OST, and I'll let everyone know the outcome.

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    posted 07-13-2000 04:46 PM PT (US)     

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    So I ordered Contact region 2 and received it the other day. Last night I just finished compiling the complete score from it. It's the same speed as the u.s. version. Suprisingly though, there is only 18 minutes more music than the 44 minute OST. The complete score runs 62 min. Not much for a 2 1/2 hr. movie. Anyway, it sounds great and is the correct speed. Just in case anyone wanted to know the outcome.

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    posted 08-06-2000 07:51 PM PT (US)     

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    I think many isolated PAL scores are pitch corrected, ala Alien. I could be wrong of course...


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    posted 08-07-2000 04:39 AM PT (US)     

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    How do they do this, correcting the pitch? Unless the iso score is not synchronized with the film, of course. But I've heard that there ARE PAL DVDs which have the whole movie with correct speed (and which were not originally shot in PAL format).

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    posted 08-07-2000 10:58 AM PT (US)     

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    Er, I have no idea
    You could be right about those "correct speed" PAL DVD's.
    I definetely read on a forum that the Alien ISO score was pitch corrected on the R2 PAL DVD.

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    posted 08-07-2000 11:57 AM PT (US)     

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    Bumping a film to PAL is very easy. As I posted above, we do some pal conversions where I work. Because film is 24 frame and pal is 25 frame, pal versions are actually better than ntsc. The conversion process is done with the fields of video. It collects the information from the frames and does an interpolation. The movie plays exactly the same speed.
    Example: let's say you have some music on a cassette tape that runs the tape at 2 feet per second. You play the tape and record the music to a tape machine that runs at 3 feet per second. Although the machines run at different speeds, because the music was originally played in real time, the 3 feet per second machine recorded it and will play it back in real time.
    As I said, there's a bit of difference because of picture, but it's the same jist. Just that there's some interpolation. To 30 frame video, there's almost 1 field for every frame which is interpolated.

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