Some of the tracks, such as "Promenade- Tourists on the Menu," "Preparing the Cage" and "End Titles" are very different from their filmic counterparts. I like both versions, so in spite of the somewhat less-than sterling sound on the original CD, I'll still listen to it (although probably quite a bit less than the Decca release).

I had a similar reaction to the new E.T. album when it came out (same deal, original album was a re-recording that was mastered onto CD with awful sound), where my connection to some of the original arrangements (such as "The E.T. and Me") were strong enough that even though the new album gave me much pleasures I couldn't part with the old one.

As Rang mentioned, in this case (unlike E.T. where the amount of non-tonal material in the new CD actually makes the two albums clash) I find the two records to be somewhat complementary. Even if there is a certain amount of material common to both, the performance is so different in most cases as so to make it feel different.

As I write this, "Man Against Beast" comes on as if to prove my point...

Eric,
When ABC ran the "New Jaws" a few months ago, the deleted scenes ran DURING the film (not the outtakes, but the deleted scenes), so check your copies (LD/video, whatever) to see if the scenes you mentioned are WITHIN the film! Wondering...

Shaun

Keep the MCA release man, is a different recording, not the original.
Aparently Mr Williams was not satisfied with the OST so he did a new re-recording that
is the one You have.
Is good to have both I think.

As I indicatedto a friend of mine, the new sound is great, but I miss the old track titles (Tourists onthe Menu ).

I just wish Universal would stop this stupid packaging format. I want a jewel case! This, Lost World, CE3K... man I hate these fold out cardboard pieces of crap!

And Shaun, sorry but I ordered the DVD. I don't have a LD of the movie, so I guess I'm one of the saps.

While it's not unusual for stereo films to have had different mixes for the 70 millimeter six-track Dolby Stereo version, the 35 millimeter matrixed Dolby Stereo version and the 35 millimeter mono version (this accounts for some of the sound effects and dialogue differences in the first Star Wars), it's pretty odd for a monaural film such as Jaws to have this sort of thing going on...

Tell me, anyone who bought the DVD, does it have Roy Scheider getting very angry at a particular prop that refuses to work (if you've seen this, you know what I mean). That was one of the highlights of the laser.

I like the laser a lot... I'd only consider getting the DVD if the picture is significantly improved (which I seriously doubt).

NP - A score by Basil Poledouris...

Eric,
I didn't mean the outtakes, I meant the deleted scenes were in the film. They even used the "long alternate version" of the discovery of Chrissie scene on ABC. So, I hope THAT isn't on the DVD DURING the film.

Oh, and back to Brad---I'll find you an exact timing on that scene, if you want. Kind of a vague description of that scene.

Shaun

NP---X-Men (The Statue Of Liberty cue)

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
It's an extremely memorable "boat dying" sound (lots of of odd noises), and it wasn't on the ABC version!

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Are you sure this is the same version as the one on the DVD? Just asking. Actually, I think it's a good idea to re-master the sound at least in stereo, because of the score, which WAS recorded in stereo. But of course, if they really butcher the soundtrack like you say, I'd rather have the original. Still, I too ordered Jaws, for the simple reason that I don't even have it on VHS.

---90% of the sound effects are new (guns shooting, sharks exploding, water waving, etc., etc.); the old stuff they DO use is completely buried under the new "Michael Bay subtle" sound effects;

---no sound effects for the stern cleats (sp?) coming loose

---no sound effects from the time Quint throws the life jackets at Hooper and Brody until Quint says "Mr. Hooper, what exactly can you do with these things of yours?"

---Brody on the boat, after Quint's death. No sound effects for the boat beginning to tip (I think it's you hear the water more than the burps and creaks of the boat tipping), and no sound effect for Brody cocking the gun!

Anyway, go watch your old copies and report back! Tell me I'm not crazy!

Shaun

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Marian, again, they didn't remaster the sound, they REMADE the sound! Tony nods in approval.

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No way am I buying this DVD now!

Speilberg can stick it up his rectum!

I'll keep the nice, mono original version on my Signature Collection laserdisc.

• Lorraine Gary waxing about how nice a love scene would have been between her and Richard Dreyfuss.
  Their characters were having an affair in the book. This was altered in order to strengthen the relationship between Brody and Hooper.
  Although it is mentioned that Hooper popping up at the end of the film is a crowd pleasing moment, it is not mentioned in the shorter version of the documentary that this character dies in the book. It's an important point about how the film was adapted that is lost in this version.

• Spielberg explaining the dynamic of the shark-popping-up scene.
  A nice little moment in which he talks a little about how, with the rating system newly in place, it was still a little unusual to hear certain words and phrases in a movie. In particular, Brody's line "Slow ahead... I can go slow ahead, why don't you try coming down and chumming some of this sh*t," gives the scene a certain tone, which is broken by the appearance of the shark.
  This, despite its triviality, is actually a facet of a very important part of the filmmaking process; how to time events and prejudge the audience's reaction.

• The controversy about the film's rating.
  Apparently the film escaped an "R" rating ("Restricted," under 17 not admitted without parent or guardian, to those who might be unfamiliar with the American system) only because the violence was perpetuated by a shark, not a person.
  Since the gore was, in general, kept to a tasteful level...

• John Williams describing his favorite moment in the score.
  ...which is, coincidentally, a favorite of mine as well... it's the moment in the "One Barrel Chase" cue... now called "Man Against Beast" on the new Decca album... in which, as the Orca turns to bear down on the shark, the music turns... well... swashbuckling.

• Spielberg discussing the impact of Ben Gardner's appearance.
  An interesting bit occurs in his comments about this scene. He admits that, while it was an effective shock, the fact that it's there unsettles the audience, and now they don't trust him anymore. He scared them once, already, when's he going to scare them again?
  He mentions that it does jade the audience, so that at the previously mentioned moment when the shark's head pops up as Brody is chummiing, the surprise, while genuine, was a little more reserved.

• Spielberg discussing the original preview of the film.
  ...in which he mentions that there were a few laughs when Roy Scheider, Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfuss' names appeared on the screen... he mentions that they are given a pre-title card, but they were primarily considered supporting players at the time. This ended once the audience got involved with the film.
  

This DVD is an inadequate presentation of this documentary.

Oh, and that particular cue is a favourite of mine, too.

The documentary on the DVD has over an hour edited out of it from the laserdisc.

The sound is awful on the DVD...