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    Topic:   worse CD packaging job

     dantoris
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    What's some that stand out to you? For me, it's the cheap-o cardboard "collector's case" The Lost World came in, with it's no-regard-to-the-horizon track titles-on-a-sticker, which looked like they were just slapped on by a 5-year-old. (The new Jaws expanded appears to be the same way, from what I've been hearing.)

    Also, Eraser, in regards to track titles.

    1. Eraser Original Maintitle - could be (and should be) something like Main Title* (with the asterisk further down saying "Different version contained in the film")

    2. Kruger's Story - Odd title, seeing as how the track underscore the scene where Vanessa Williams is telling Arnold the story about her necklace. So it should be Lee's Story

    3. "Your Luggage" - Arnold's not saying, "Your luggage" in the film as if handing travel bags to someone. He's telling the alligator, "You're luggage." Another mis-spelled track title

    4. "When I Have Proof" - The track starts as Arnold closes is cell phone AFTER saying "When I have proof." Track should be titled Church Roof or something.

    It this all pointless, or am I making sense. Don't you think greater care should be taken when it comes to releasing scores. Though since the end credits of Eraser don't say anything about a soundtrack album being available, perhaps it was a last-minute rush job to get one out after deciding not to.

    But that's no excuse for The Lost World, a CD that was most-likely well in the works for a release, yet still they make it seem like it was a rush-job.

    Feel free to pipe in if you have any observations of your own.

    NP: Eraser - "Cabin Raid" ***/***** (Now here's a correctly-titled track!)

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    posted 07-11-2000 01:36 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm also upset about the packaging of Empire Strikes Back Special Collectors Edition.
    I have the one printed in the UK and the CDs are like Holograms.
    Anyway the packaging I guess was made to look like a book with those free demo disc straped in the inside.
    The track listings are only on the 3rd page of the inserts, why didn't they list them on the back of the book?

    And the Rhino release of Superman. Why won't the booklet fit in the jewl case? annoying!

    For Roseanna by Trevor Jones only list the track names in inserts. - I don't like that.

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    posted 07-11-2000 01:53 PM PT (US)     

     Justin
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    Hahaha, good looking out Dantoris. After reading that I laughed while listening to Eraser. Doesn't change the good score but it changes how I view the idiots who packaged the CD. :-)

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    posted 07-11-2000 02:43 PM PT (US)     

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    this topic comes every other month..

    anyway,

    my vote is for Chouans! by the incomparable Georges Delerue. That CD has several glaring mistakes, many of which I'd be happy to point out, if only I could find my copy.

    Raise the Titanic has a skip in the numbering of their tracks on the CD. For example, 13 goes to 15.

    The Hollywood Records release of Poledouris' Les Miserables always annoyed me, ubt I've mentioned that several times.

    Hook has only the track titles on the physical CD.

    and the MCA release of Spartacus is curiously missing about 2 and a half hours of music...

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    posted 07-11-2000 03:57 PM PT (US)     

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    Got one!

    Lost World

    --Kyp

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    posted 07-11-2000 05:25 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    From the Majestyx site, JJ.

    Chouans!
    Released on the French label Disques Carrere, Georges Delerue's score to Chouans! is an example of how NOT to put a CD together for commercial release. If you want to talk about a messed-up CD, this one has to take the cake! What's wrong with it? To start with, one will notice that there are 25 tracks listed on the back of the disc case. After inserting the disc into one's CD player, only 24 tracks are found on the CD itself. That's a bit weird, but it's not like this didn't happen before. Check out Varèse Sarabande's release of Brad Fiedel's score to The Serpent and the Rainbow to see that a cue was also ommitted from this disc, but the cue's title somehow remained on the track listing.

    If the fact that the CD is missing a cue wasn't bad enough, the cues that are on it aren't even in the correct order, at least not according to the timings on the track listing. After going over the disc, I think I've figured out the correct track listing as they appear on the CD.

    1-7 are in sync with the provided track listing:
    1. CHOUANS (générique)
    2. LES NAISSANCES
    3. L'ENVOL DE LA MONTGOLFIERE
    4. VAS VER LA JOIE
    5. LA FETE AU CHATEAU
    6. MENUET
    7. PAVANE

    Now it starts to get screwy:
    8. LES CHOUANS DEVANT LE CHATEAU listed as 14

    9-13 are also correct:
    9. AURELE ET CELINE
    10. LA SEPARATION
    11. LANTERNE MAGIQUE
    12. LE VILLAGE INCENDIE
    13. THEME DES CHOUANS

    Another error:
    14. CHOUANS (générique fin) listed as 25

    15-18 jive:
    15. LE DEPART DE TARQUIN
    16. LAISSE-MOI REVER
    17. L'ARMEE RISLING
    18. L'ENVOL

    From here to the end, they are a mess:
    19. L'AVENIR DE CELINE listed as 24
    20. LA LETTRE PERDUE listed as 19
    21. LA MORT DE VIVIANE listed as 20
    22. LA BATAILLE listed as 21
    23. APRES LA BATAILLE DANS LA NUIT listed as 22
    24. L'ADIEU A VIVIANE listed as 23


    So it would appear that the listed track 8, DANSE PAYSANNE, is not included on this CD.

    That's his writing above. I take no credit.

    Shaun


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    posted 07-11-2000 08:01 PM PT (US)     

     André Lux
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    There are plenty of horrenduous CD packing around, but nothing can beat Milan's Film Music Collection.

    The cover has ridiculous pink strap with the words FILM MUSIC COLLECTION that covers almost 1/3 of the cover! This just ruined the gorgeous original cover art of the "QUEST FOR FIRE" album. And the rest of the packing is all in pink... Ridiculous!

    But the worst of all is their "LIFEFORCE" packing... Alongside with the pink strip comes a horrenduous art for the cover on a yellow background...

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    posted 07-11-2000 08:33 PM PT (US)     

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    I've got a bunch of goodies. Try Varese's intinitial club release of Cherry 2000 with the bonus mystery track. Along with the missing track on artifact known as The Serpent and The Rainbow, with it's missing cue. And I don't think anyone's noticed that Father of the Bride, too has a mystery track which is really wierd.

    I think all of the original French Milan discs were terribly packaged. Like Friday the 13th, Lifeforce, Runaway Train, and the infamous King Solomon's Mines/Delta Force combo. Aweful indeed.

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    posted 07-11-2000 09:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Pretty much IMO, the 4 titles I could mention are,

    Lost World: Jurassic Park
    And the Star Wars Special Edition sets.

    IMO, they were just completely stupid and unnecessary.

    Actually any CD released in those cardboard cases, are crappy IMO.

    Then there is the track listing on both Les Miserables and Congo. I wonder if there is any quality checking at the record labels anymore?

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 07-11-2000 11:35 PM PT (US)     

     dantoris
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    How much you wanna bet the majority of people working at the record labels don't even know the difference between a song compilation soundtrack and a score?

    Joe Blow: "That the soundtrack for The Lost World?"

    John Doe: "Yeah. Heard Smashmouth and Backstreet Boys did some great songs for it."

    Joe Blow: "Cool!"

    *sound of CD jewel case landing in crowded bin*

    NP: Escape From New York expanded - "Tell Him" (A little too early for a rating, listening to it for the first time, but I'm not wild about the dialogue tracks. Just let me hear the score for cryin' out loud!!)

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    posted 07-11-2000 11:47 PM PT (US)     

     Greg Bryant
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    There seems to be a trend here...

    The Lost World:Jurassic Park
    Star Wars Special Edition
    Empire Strikes Back Special Edition
    Return of the Jedi Special Edition
    Close Encounters Expanded edition
    Superman Expanded edition

    What do they have in common? They're all John Williams' scores.

    Is Williams making the decisions on the packaging of these things? I remember several years ago that a popular singer had it written into his contract that the packaging of all his CD's was to be recyclable/biodegradable/something like that/etc. I wonder if Williams is taking the same tack? Not that I have anything against environmental responsibility, no, I'm all for it. But these CD's, I don't plan to get rid of anytime soon, and I feel that the packaging should be more protective, hence, the desire for jewel cases (okay, the outside slip cover around a jewel case is okay).

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    posted 07-12-2000 05:27 AM PT (US)     

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    One of the worst things I have is the Southern Cross release of Dragonslayer. Not because of inferior sound or annoying packaging gimmicks but simply because the track listing is completely incorrect and darn NEAR USELESS!

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    posted 07-12-2000 06:14 AM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, the track listing on Dragonslayer is pretty ridiculous. Someone on the other board sent me a corrected track listing (no cues were omitted from the CD, one of them that's listed on the track listing is part of another cue), which I put on the back of my CD. I'll post it if you want it. On the other hand, the sound on this CD is pretty damn good.

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    posted 07-12-2000 07:13 AM PT (US)     

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    Can somebody please point out what the packaging issues are with the Starwars Special Edition releases? I don't have any problems with mine (besides the fact that the tracks are not numbered on the back of the jewel case.)

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    posted 07-12-2000 07:57 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:
    Hook has only the track titles on the physical CD.

    Mine has the titles also on the last (inner) page of the booklet. But without track times, and WITHOUT NUMBERS! So if you're playing track #11, you have to count the titles to know which one is #11.

    I agree, Lost World's packaging is horrible. I really like what they did for the Star Wars Special Edition CDs, but they should have found some better holding device for the CDs, which doesn't scratch them. CE3K and Jaws are ok. I'd prefer jewel cases because they don't easily break, and if they do, I can replace them. But they aren't near the horrible Lost World "case".

    Oh, and somebody mentioned at another thread that his Raiders has some sort of special packaging... mine doesn't??

    Ah yes, Superman... Well, I like those sleeves, as long as I can store them seperately (like Star Wars etc.). But as the booklet doesn't fit in the Jewel case, I have to keep the sleeve with the CD.

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    posted 07-12-2000 08:31 AM PT (US)     

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    Swash, you'ed be doing me a big favor if you did post that. Thanks.

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    posted 07-12-2000 08:40 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by jonathan_little:

    Can somebody please point out what the packaging issues are with the Starwars Special Edition releases? I don't have any problems with mine (besides the fact that the tracks are not numbered on the back of the jewel case.)


    I am assuming you have the standard version of them?

    Pretty much two versions were released. One is in the standard 2CD slimline case, the other an special limited edition package, once you remove the slipcover, it is an book with the lines notes and CDs in one package.

    However the CDs are not on an tray, but just in plain cardboard sleeves. Like what Demo software usually are sent in.

    See what I mean? Very crappy, and damaging to the discs. As I said in another post, damaging enough that I already have had to replace each of the sets.

    For some reason there are many still on the market. Just make sure that if you ever want to buy them, don't get the wrong one.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 07-12-2000 09:40 AM PT (US)     

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    They're still on the market because people realized the old packaging, whatever value it may have had to collectors, is crap, and anyone who intends to actually listen to these records with any regularity had to pick up the newer slimline versions.

    Hal, give me a little time on Dragonslayer, the disc is at someone else's house, I have to get it back. But I definitely will post the track listing.

    I don't like that business about not listing the track numbers myself... what's the point of having a guide if you can't use it?

    NP - Starship Troopers by Basil Poledouris

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    posted 07-12-2000 03:02 PM PT (US)     

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    well, yes, Marian you are of course correct.

    But it still stand that I want track titles on the back of the CD case.

    Fargo/ Barton Fink is another case.
    I have to open the liner notes to read the trasck titles.

    NP -- Jewel in the Crown[/b], George Fenton

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    posted 07-12-2000 03:14 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:
    But it still stand that I want track titles on the back of the CD case.

    Fargo/ Barton Fink is another case.
    I have to open the liner notes to read the trasck titles.


    Yep. I also dislike it when the track times are not listed. Didn't Robert Townson from Varese once say (in that letter where he explained why they do so many 30 minute releases) that they always print the times on the rear cover? I've got quite a lot Varese CDs without track times there.

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    posted 07-12-2000 05:08 PM PT (US)     

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    Marian wrote thus:
    quote:
    Yep. I also dislike it when the track times are not listed. Didn't Robert Townson from Varese once say (in that letter where he explained why they do so many 30 minute releases) that they always print the times on the rear cover? I've got quite a lot Varese CDs without track times there.

    Case in point: The Fury has track titles, but no timings anywhere. dang it.


    NP -- Christopher Young compilation


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    posted 07-12-2000 05:42 PM PT (US)     

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    I "only" have the slimline cased STAR WARS - Special Edition Scores. I picked them up because I saw at the time of purchase no reason to pay almost twice as much for a collector's edition of the score. The liner notes in both releases are identical anyway, as far as I know.

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    posted 07-12-2000 05:44 PM PT (US)     

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    Yes, they are identical. I originally bought the "normal" version of ESB, but because I already had the limited ANH and ROTJ, I sold ESB to a friend when I found the limited version.

    Ironically, the ESB double jewel case broke within one week.

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    posted 07-13-2000 02:36 PM PT (US)     

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    HA! Marian, that is the same one that broke on my set!

    NP: Gladiator (Like It. Even with the Mars bits and the Seigfried bits)

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    posted 07-13-2000 07:47 PM PT (US)     

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    Ah, sabbey, thank you very much for clearing that up for me... I do have the sets with the 2CD slimline cases.

    I did see a few copies of the "special limited edition," but I really didn't think the extra money was worth it... (it's all the same music, right?)

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    posted 07-13-2000 08:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Not only is the Six Degrees of Seperation album pretty badly packaged, it too has a mystery track.

    Yet another is Congo. Trying to read the tracklisting will give you a headache. Trying to make it look like some sort of undecipherable computer code doesn't mean it needed to READ as if it were some sort of undecipherable computer code.

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    posted 07-13-2000 08:50 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by jonathan_little:

    I did see a few copies of the "special limited edition," but I really didn't think the extra money was worth it... (it's all the same music, right?)


    Yep, music and liner notes are identical. The difference between the two editions is the (controversial it seems) packaging.


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    posted 07-14-2000 06:02 AM PT (US)     

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    Superman packaging was wierd, because the booklet was too thick to fit into the jewel case. Why not change the formatting of the text etc?????


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    posted 07-14-2000 07:04 AM PT (US)     

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    "The Lost World" most definitely has to be the worst CD Packaging for myself. I have this nice, trim, neat stack of Movie Score CDs, and this cheezy paper case sticks out, with little cardboard Dinosaurs that fold up, making it appear more as a Happy Meal than a Movie Score.

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    posted 07-15-2000 03:25 PM PT (US)     

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    I have to wonder who are the geniuses who design these things, or at least decide that it is an good idea?

    Personally, I bet they think it will standout, and people will be more likely to get it. Unfortunately is that true? For myself it is the opposite, this type of packages usually make me skip them. Hopefully that will teach the morons from using them.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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